On December 17 2015 19:23 Rels wrote:
Yep. First guy to jump back to marv, using his "those 3 cant be scum together" analysis.
Yep. First guy to jump back to marv, using his "those 3 cant be scum together" analysis.
Yes, rayn is town congrats.
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On December 17 2015 19:23 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On December 14 2015 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: The problem i see in marv's filter, while his posts look fine i can't believe he actually thinks -- if he read the thread as he said -- that the three people who are like mostly calling each other scum here in this game contain 2 mafia. Furthermore if he thinks this is the case, why the fuck does he not call me out for calling that impossible, or at least notice the post where i do so? fuck it, i am back to marv is scum train. ##unvote ##vote marvellosity IF he was just too busy to read properly then it's sad, but i just don't think that's the case. Yep. First guy to jump back to marv, using his "those 3 cant be scum together" analysis. Yes, rayn is town congrats. | ||
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On December 17 2015 19:30 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On December 17 2015 19:26 DarthPunk wrote: On December 17 2015 19:23 Rels wrote: On December 14 2015 06:46 raynpelikoneet wrote: The problem i see in marv's filter, while his posts look fine i can't believe he actually thinks -- if he read the thread as he said -- that the three people who are like mostly calling each other scum here in this game contain 2 mafia. Furthermore if he thinks this is the case, why the fuck does he not call me out for calling that impossible, or at least notice the post where i do so? fuck it, i am back to marv is scum train. ##unvote ##vote marvellosity IF he was just too busy to read properly then it's sad, but i just don't think that's the case. Yep. First guy to jump back to marv, using his "those 3 cant be scum together" analysis. Yes, rayn is town congrats. I hope GM / rayn finds you scummy then. I will not roll over and die and make them lose if they scumread me; but fighting against every player in the thread is stressful. Same basically. | ||
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On December 18 2015 00:19 GreYMisT wrote: So first off everyone needs to have a lynch target and analysis post before day end. a new one. if someone does not everyone is to assuume that person is scum. I will have one as well, so dont worry. I also have something and I want both DP and Rels to humor me, and i'd like rayn to go along with it. I'd like both of you to do your best to make a case on rayn. disregard how unlikly it is, or whether or not its something youu actually believe. ill be here occassionally to respond, but ill mainly be following along and gathering my thoughts for the end of night post. Nope this is super fucking retarded greymist. | ||
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On December 18 2015 00:43 GreYMisT wrote: Show nested quote + On December 18 2015 00:34 DarthPunk wrote: On December 18 2015 00:19 GreYMisT wrote: So first off everyone needs to have a lynch target and analysis post before day end. a new one. if someone does not everyone is to assuume that person is scum. I will have one as well, so dont worry. I also have something and I want both DP and Rels to humor me, and i'd like rayn to go along with it. I'd like both of you to do your best to make a case on rayn. disregard how unlikly it is, or whether or not its something youu actually believe. ill be here occassionally to respond, but ill mainly be following along and gathering my thoughts for the end of night post. Nope this is super fucking retarded greymist. Explain your reasoning. You are a potential lynch target so you need to back up every assertion Because Rayn being scum makes no fucking sense based on everything that has happened in this game. Why would he lynch fucking Marv instead of just winning the game? He is blatantly town and fucking around making cases that nobody believes in only confuses the actual thinking that needs to happen. And what needs to happen is this: You and Rayn need to filter dive both rels and I and when we vote for each other at lylo whichever one of you is left will need to make a decision. That is the correct play. I will never ever ever lynch or vote for Rayn and I will not read or make a case on him. | ||
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On December 18 2015 00:57 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On December 18 2015 00:19 GreYMisT wrote: So first off everyone needs to have a lynch target and analysis post before day end. a new one. if someone does not everyone is to assuume that person is scum. I will have one as well, so dont worry. I also have something and I want both DP and Rels to humor me, and i'd like rayn to go along with it. I'd like both of you to do your best to make a case on rayn. disregard how unlikly it is, or whether or not its something youu actually believe. ill be here occassionally to respond, but ill mainly be following along and gathering my thoughts for the end of night post. LOL you're the doc not the mayor last time I checked. But it's going to be easy. I think rayn is scum because he couldn't swear he's town; and I think I know why. If he swears he's town, that means DP is confirmed being a super dick posting a super cheap post; and rayn cannot do this. What is cheap about that post exactly? Everything in it was true and I fucking self voted, I wasn't angry or rage quitting. I just hoped Rayn would win the game after I died. | ||
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On December 18 2015 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On December 16 2015 19:50 DarthPunk wrote: Rayn is smart enough to analyze the game again at LYLO. As am I (though I don't feel the need to as there is no way on earth rayn is scum) DP why did you make this post? If I recall correctly the hydra was talking some bullshit about how you wouldn't listen to them and how you needed to be open to all of the options once they flipped. I was annoyed because everyone knows you are a really strong player and their posts seemed like pointless bullshit to draw attention to their martyring. I also consider myself smart enough to re-assess. But I also wanted to point out that there was not way my vote was moving onto you ever due to my town read on you being basically infallible. | ||
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On December 18 2015 21:56 raynpelikoneet wrote: Hey actually, i have a question to both of you. Who would you have killed if you were mafia and why? I think the correct play is to shoot the un-counterclaimed doc. Although Greymist was quite inactive so I think it is close. | ||
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On December 18 2015 22:10 raynpelikoneet wrote: Let's ask the host if we can play voice mafia tonight about who is scum? I would actually love to do this except there is no way rels is not scum. | ||
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On December 18 2015 23:02 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On December 18 2015 22:58 DarthPunk wrote: On December 18 2015 21:54 raynpelikoneet wrote: On December 16 2015 19:50 DarthPunk wrote: Rayn is smart enough to analyze the game again at LYLO. As am I (though I don't feel the need to as there is no way on earth rayn is scum) DP why did you make this post? If I recall correctly the hydra was talking some bullshit about how you wouldn't listen to them and how you needed to be open to all of the options once they flipped. I was annoyed because everyone knows you are a really strong player and their posts seemed like pointless bullshit to draw attention to their martyring. I also consider myself smart enough to re-assess. But I also wanted to point out that there was not way my vote was moving onto you ever due to my town read on you being basically infallible. I mean like... There is no reason to assume Greymist protected anyone else than me on N1. Why do you assume i am alive at LYLO if i think there is no way you are mafia? Because I was using PoE Rels, DP, Rayn, GM, Hydra We had one lynch to spare at the time. So no matter what, we lynch scum as long as I am right on you which I am. So no matter who gets killed at night the scum would be confirmed at lylo therefore there is no need for me to reassess. | ||
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On December 18 2015 22:42 raynpelikoneet wrote: Show nested quote + On December 18 2015 22:40 Rels wrote: On December 18 2015 22:28 raynpelikoneet wrote: What? Why is shooting GM the best play for you? Cause he's doc and potentially (even if unlikely) didn't save you or Damdred N1. GM is safe kill. And, again, you would not be voting me if I was scum. Okay thanks, now i need DP's answer on this. DP -- a follow up question to this too; What is the best play for Rels in case he is scum? I think The correct play in a vacuum is to always kill The non CC'd doc. However; I think the best play for Rels was to shoot you. But, again, it's close. Like there are valid arguments for both sides, but you are far less likely to be outargued or swayed in your convictions than GreyMist I think. | ||
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On December 18 2015 23:15 Rels wrote: marv and DP are scum. marv is the lynch. marv starts posting. I am the lynch. marv deflects and pushes on DP. DP sheeps rayn on me. If marv is lynched: DP look very good and I look super suspicious. If DP is lynched: the game is almost lost for scum since marv is not a good enough scum player to survive two more lynches. (or, he's a too good town player to fake it as scum) If Rels is lynched: LYLO. DP looks null. marv looks OK. So it's a gambit. If DP is lynched for whatever reason marv lose the game right there. But the other cases are OK. Why would we not just both lynch you as scum and go straight to lylo? | ||
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On December 18 2015 23:19 Rels wrote: How do you know scum can no-kill ? LOL GTFO Rels. | ||
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On December 18 2015 23:21 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On December 18 2015 23:20 DarthPunk wrote: On December 18 2015 23:15 Rels wrote: marv and DP are scum. marv is the lynch. marv starts posting. I am the lynch. marv deflects and pushes on DP. DP sheeps rayn on me. If marv is lynched: DP look very good and I look super suspicious. If DP is lynched: the game is almost lost for scum since marv is not a good enough scum player to survive two more lynches. (or, he's a too good town player to fake it as scum) If Rels is lynched: LYLO. DP looks null. marv looks OK. So it's a gambit. If DP is lynched for whatever reason marv lose the game right there. But the other cases are OK. Why would we not just both lynch you as scum and go straight to lylo? I'm not considering the motherfucking hypothetical scenarios. I'm considering what could possibly happen based on the actions of the players, and what outcome it would have. Well it doesn't make sense for a marv-DP team to not just lynch you, therefore what you posted makes no sense. | ||
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On December 18 2015 23:33 Rels wrote: OK I will resume one last time because you are all annoying me. What happened at EOD1 marv is the lynch. marv starts posting. Rels is the lynch. marv deflects off Rels and pushes on DP. DP sheeps rayn on Rels. Rels deflects off marv and pushes on Arsoul. Possible lynches: marv, DP, Rels. 1: marv + Rels is the team. How do the rest of the game looks like ? If Rels is lynched => marv look bad. Game is lost because marv is not a good scum player + is being suspected. BAD If DP is lynched => LYLO; marv and I, who were the two potential lynches, look super bad. A LITTLE BAD and UNLIKELY ANYWAY If marv is lynched => It looks like both scum didn't want to vote for each other. I look bad. BAD You were in this bad situation and as you just said, trying to lynch me is the best option out of those you are providing. Pretty funny that marv tried to lynch me then huh? On December 18 2015 23:33 Rels wrote: 2: marv + DP is the team. How do the rest of the game looks like ? If marv is lynched: DP look very good and I look super suspicious. GOOD If DP is lynched: the game is almost lost for scum since marv is not a good enough scum player to survive two more lynches. (or, he's a too good town player to fake it as scum). BAD but UNLIKELY If Rels is lynched: LYLO. DP looks null. marv looks OK. SUPER GOOD So why would marv-dp team go for option two and not the SUPER GOOD option 3? Makes no fucking sense still. | ||
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On December 18 2015 23:39 Rels wrote: Shut up fucking scum. It does not prove you're scum; anyone could be scum with marv but me with this analysis. It proves that I am town. I am town because marv was getting lynched and he hates giving information; but somehow we chose a way to play that ONLY LEAD TO BAD SCENARIOS. YOU COULD ONLY CHOOSE BAD SCENARIOS BECAUSE YOU HAD COLLECTIVELY PUT YOURSELF INTO A BAD SCENARIO BY PLAYING LIKE SHIT ON DAY ONE. | ||
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On December 18 2015 23:44 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On December 18 2015 23:42 DarthPunk wrote: On December 18 2015 23:39 Rels wrote: Shut up fucking scum. It does not prove you're scum; anyone could be scum with marv but me with this analysis. It proves that I am town. I am town because marv was getting lynched and he hates giving information; but somehow we chose a way to play that ONLY LEAD TO BAD SCENARIOS. YOU COULD ONLY CHOOSE BAD SCENARIOS BECAUSE YOU HAD COLLECTIVELY PUT YOURSELF INTO A BAD SCENARIO BY PLAYING LIKE SHIT ON DAY ONE. MY POINT IS SCUMS DO NOT PLAY TO PUT THEMSELVES IN BAD SCENARIOS IN THE FIRST PLACE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE ONE OF YOU DOES NOT BUS THE OTHER IN THE SITUATION WE WERE IN AT EOD If scum NEVER put themselves into bad scenarios then scum would win all the fucking time. | ||
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On December 18 2015 23:47 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On December 18 2015 23:45 DarthPunk wrote: On December 18 2015 23:44 Rels wrote: On December 18 2015 23:42 DarthPunk wrote: On December 18 2015 23:39 Rels wrote: Shut up fucking scum. It does not prove you're scum; anyone could be scum with marv but me with this analysis. It proves that I am town. I am town because marv was getting lynched and he hates giving information; but somehow we chose a way to play that ONLY LEAD TO BAD SCENARIOS. YOU COULD ONLY CHOOSE BAD SCENARIOS BECAUSE YOU HAD COLLECTIVELY PUT YOURSELF INTO A BAD SCENARIO BY PLAYING LIKE SHIT ON DAY ONE. MY POINT IS SCUMS DO NOT PLAY TO PUT THEMSELVES IN BAD SCENARIOS IN THE FIRST PLACE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE ONE OF YOU DOES NOT BUS THE OTHER IN THE SITUATION WE WERE IN AT EOD If scum NEVER put themselves into bad scenarios then scum would win all the fucking time. Yep and we they do, they bus Case in point: almost every game that was ever played Not true at all. | ||
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On December 18 2015 23:49 Rels wrote: Show nested quote + On December 18 2015 23:48 DarthPunk wrote: On December 18 2015 23:47 Rels wrote: On December 18 2015 23:45 DarthPunk wrote: On December 18 2015 23:44 Rels wrote: On December 18 2015 23:42 DarthPunk wrote: On December 18 2015 23:39 Rels wrote: Shut up fucking scum. It does not prove you're scum; anyone could be scum with marv but me with this analysis. It proves that I am town. I am town because marv was getting lynched and he hates giving information; but somehow we chose a way to play that ONLY LEAD TO BAD SCENARIOS. YOU COULD ONLY CHOOSE BAD SCENARIOS BECAUSE YOU HAD COLLECTIVELY PUT YOURSELF INTO A BAD SCENARIO BY PLAYING LIKE SHIT ON DAY ONE. MY POINT IS SCUMS DO NOT PLAY TO PUT THEMSELVES IN BAD SCENARIOS IN THE FIRST PLACE IT'S IMPOSSIBLE ONE OF YOU DOES NOT BUS THE OTHER IN THE SITUATION WE WERE IN AT EOD If scum NEVER put themselves into bad scenarios then scum would win all the fucking time. Yep and we they do, they bus Case in point: almost every game that was ever played Not true at all. Yep. It's the natural reaction and I have a lot of examples coming to mind rightnow If scum bussed all the fucking time then their would be no point in bussing because all it would do would be to out your whole fucking scum team. | ||
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