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On September 06 2015 10:33 MoosyDoosy wrote: GlowingBear, do you really think n00bKing is mafia here?
I think there is the possibility of him being Mafia. Some of his replies are really off, his tone is over the top, the dismissal of some questions and that unexplained vote on Rayn while not scum reading him are very fair indicatives.
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On September 06 2015 10:36 Breshke wrote: Ehh I think I disagree on Fidel. He didn't post that much but i don't think what he was posting was really fluff other than complaining about the length of the game. The thing that I disliked the most is that he said he was gonna read you and moosey, he apparently read moosey asked some inquisitive questions and then never got to you.
This isn't really a reason to scum read him but yeah. He did promise activity later though I think so will probably see then.
I need to re look at Scott he was doing that thing where he posts his notes I think which is okay but I would like to see more polished kinda posts from him. I don't think I'd want to lynch him today though the stream of thought was good from what I remember and he is scared because "I'm putting in more effort than usual" and that's funny
Why is boxer a less desirable lynch than the others for you? Is there something you like or is there just nothing you dislike?
I simply don't see anything more than null from boxer.
Regarding scott, another problem is that he peaced out again after I stopped pressuring him.
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On September 06 2015 11:01 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 06 2015 10:52 GlowingBear wrote:On September 06 2015 10:33 MoosyDoosy wrote: GlowingBear, do you really think n00bKing is mafia here? I think there is the possibility of him being Mafia. Some of his replies are really off, his tone is over the top, the dismissal of some questions and that unexplained vote on Rayn while not scum reading him are very fair indicatives. I have only voted against CopCake, you know.
You've bolded a vote on rayn in this topic. If you didn't think rayn was mafia at that time, why did you do that?
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noobking, if you're town, you have to understand that your actions not only affects Mafia but it affects town as well. Which means if you're trying to make a play to fool Mafia, you're fooling town players too. Withholding reads may confuse Mafia, but it also doesn't help people to decide who to lynch. And being unhelpful in that regards fits much more a Mafia agenda than a townie's.
I can possibly think of only two motives to throw a fake vote. One is to gauge reactions, which means this motive can be disclosed and you could've simply say what you've got from it. The other one doesn't make sense when you make it clear it was a fake vote. Which means: you either assume you wanted to vote Rayn (to fit the second purpose) or you admit that you didn't actually want to vote Rayn and explain it to us.
When you say your vote was fake but you don't disclose your motive, it doesn't fit any of these perspectives. In other words, you did the move and now you're trying to justify it the way you can, instead of having a prior plan to it.
Skipping my questions doesn't make sense either. Mafia should be pressured to give reads because that is when they fail the most, since they have to fabricate them. A way of avoiding this is to not giving reads at all, which was what you were doing. You were denying information.
What is giving me pause is how freely you're posting in the thread and what advantage would you gain when going against Rayn and buddying me. Also, I agree with what you're saying about scott.
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Can someone explain to me what's the case on Cake?
I've just read her filter and I saw nothing wrong. In fact, some posts looks really townie, like the early ones. Her posts are fluid and directly to the point. Her reads have a clear progression. Also, she has 4 pages of filter on day1.
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I'm voting scott. I don't see a better lynch than him.
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I really think noobking shouldn't be the lynch today. Vote scott.
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On September 07 2015 03:55 Superbia wrote: Why is scott the lynch for you, GB?
His posts are off, he comes to the thread and drops reads accordingly to thread sentiment, brings nothing new when posting, isn't actively trying to solve the game, lurks and posts when he has suspicions thrown at him and when the pressure goes off he fucks off.
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If people are going against lurkers, than we should lynch the scummiest, and not someone who is most likely a question mark. Scott fits the scummy lurker cartegory
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On September 07 2015 04:00 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 03:55 GlowingBear wrote: I really think noobking shouldn't be the lynch today. Vote scott. I really think you should be the lynch today. Vote yourself.
You should know I'm town by now
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On September 07 2015 04:04 Superbia wrote: I had scott as town early but re-viewing his filter idk why.
GB can you flesh this out?
Yes I can. I'm going to write a case once I get home.
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On September 07 2015 04:08 yamato77 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 04:00 GlowingBear wrote: If people are going against lurkers, than we should lynch the scummiest, and not someone who is most likely a question mark. Scott fits the scummy lurker cartegory No he doesn't
Yes he does. Do you think he is town?
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On September 07 2015 04:37 yamato77 wrote: He looked pretty townie from what I saw.
Can you point out what exactly makes him town?
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Superbia, I'm home but I'm not feeling well, so I'm not going to format it well so I can take a quick nap quicker:
On September 05 2015 09:15 scott31337 wrote:Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote: In which page the game started? 9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it. Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:29 Breshke wrote:On September 05 2015 08:20 CopCake wrote: In which page the game started? 9 @rayn. I just think your expectations are too high too early like yes I get you want people to play seriously but that is difficult from the get go especially for some people and i would imagine it would lead to the game kind of fizziling out early because WTF are people going to be talking about. That coupled with the fact that you asked for a blue claim so we could lynch GB IN A NEWBIE GAME is just wrong. I get none of the "newbies" are that new but did you really think the optimal play was for someone to claim a blue role. I can understand that you want people to play seriously but I don't understand asking a blue role to claim The scenarios you suggested after someone claims are jsut as bad because any claim outside of the vigi setup is a doc, cop or JK which will just get RB'd to eternity and poof you've lost your power role on D1. Even if GB flipped scum it would hardly be worth it. A quote and so much talk from Breshke day 1 makes me wonder if he wants to try to change his ways - which for a D1 - townlean. More Breshke walls of text - GB smoking/drinking again - and follow his opposite Show nested quote +On September 05 2015 08:23 GlowingBear wrote:On September 05 2015 08:17 raynpelikoneet wrote:On September 05 2015 08:12 Superbia wrote: Do you really think GB is mafia here? I don't care i stopped reading his posts. I hope a vigilante shoots him. Ok, you're mafia ##Vote: Rayn Re-read Supers post here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=24820236- + Show Spoiler +On September 05 2015 08:33 Superbia wrote: I'm about to head off. Won't be around tomorrow until around this time. Some incoherent thoughts (pretty tired).
Think rayn's response to GB's claim is over the top. I don't think there is any need for any blue to out at the moment. Pretty sure we can get productive d1 going without any blue shenanigans. Actually kinda makes me dislike rayn, but I had townie vibes from him early on so whatever. Also he just called me town so I'm fine with him being town for now.
Curious to see what comes off rayn/yamato co-op stuff.
Initially disliked yamato's opening. After what rayn just said it's okay for now. Interested in rayn's follow up opinion.
Don't really like moosy I think. Especially the purposely random typing (different from pre-game). Also can't really find a reasoning behind his posts yet (might be bc I'm tired).
Dislike breshke who feels bitter in his latest post (mafia trait imo). Feels weird to see him admit to scummy-esque things. IDK what he's doing as either alignment. Have to see later.
GB is idk. Don't really care about the (fake) claim that much tbh.
Rest also IDK.
So yeah. Follow rayn for now probably. Don't claim blue though. No matter what he says. I'll see where you guys are at tomorrow. Good information but I'm already blitzed. N00bking's posts bad like last game. He's my worst right now. Rayn town Yamato doing shit - town
This post may appear contributive at first glance but it's basically a summary of the thread at that point and reads accordingly to thread sentiment, bringing nothing new to the table. Why is Rayn town, why he is so quick to give yamato a townread like that? Why just saying I'm "drinking" again, discrediting me? It's a bunch of rehash with an attempt of looking contributive without actually contributing.
He then starts to post reads accordingly to his progression on the pages of thread, cluttering the thread with partial and outdated information he keeps further reevaluating instead of just giving his opinion on one big post. My problem with this is that he is again trying to look contributive while not actually being contributive. Worse. He is cluttering the thread just to show "look, I'm doing stuff!" instead of interacting and actually search for Mafia.
He is very bold when he gives reads. Calls Nocturne "town" with no back reqsoning when he was suspicious of mage's slot. He gives 3 names of people he thinks are Mafia and he could lynch (sayinf maybe I'm not Mafia an cake is) but posts this:
On September 06 2015 23:48 scott31337 wrote: I could lynch boxer but it feels like policy really.
For someone who has 3-4 scumreads, this is extremely scummy. Why is he okay with boxer's lynch if he has THREE better targets and he even ADMITS boxer is only a policy?
I see no better lynch.
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I'M THE DOCTOR I WAS SLEEPING
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JESUS I SAID I WAS VIGI BECAUSE MAFIA KNOW THE ROLES SO I WOULDNT BE SHOT AR NIHJT
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Lol yamato, I hope you fucking learn how to play because i have no words to say how stupid you are for this
That includes you Rayn. Congrats for kynching the AFK.
And you call yourselves good. LOL!
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On September 07 2015 07:20 n00bKing wrote:Show nested quote +On September 07 2015 07:17 GlowingBear wrote: JESUS I SAID I WAS VIGI BECAUSE MAFIA KNOW THE ROLES SO I WOULDNT BE SHOT AR NIHJT If you claim Vigilante in a ruleset where you're the Doctor, the Cop would know you are lying.
So he just checks me at night if he is smart.
Then he gets a green check on me and I keep alive.
That's why I didn't want to talk about my claim.
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On September 07 2015 07:21 Superbia wrote: Like this wagon is likely to go on either way. Give some post-lynch materials.
I just woke up so I don't know. Rayn flipped his shit on me over nothing so I would go against him. Scott is probably Mafia
I'm unsure on noobking
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I don't think noobking is Mafia...
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