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On April 13 2015 08:49 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 08:48 Breshke wrote:On April 12 2015 11:28 Stutters695 wrote:On April 12 2015 10:57 rsoultin wrote: nvm...caught up
meh, can see why ppl got cold feet
hope you keep feeling better oneg! <3 now...
-sits on onegu's head-
i find it hard to believe youve read my filter closely if you really think its mostly questions and metareads xP
stutters could be scum; knowing his alignment for sure would help explain the vote
or he could have just been at work? i think he said he was
anyway im here now if anyone wants to talk, but im driving back to sa tomorrow so prob wont be on for the rest of the night phase after tonight If I'm town, what do I gain from the vote like that? If I'm scum what do I gain? Assume I'm town for a second(you'll see why d2). Prpl tries to switch the wagon onto me. From a scum perspective: He mislynches me (I get harder to mislynch as the game goes on generally) and leaves him with 1/2 (depending on Dwarf's alignment) easy-ish mislynches at the cost of looking slightly worse for my mislynch. Do you think that would be a risk he'd take as scum from playing scum with him? I am really interested what stutters means by the bolded.. lol i had a theory that i'm not sharing >< sounds like you may have the same one, bresh
Yeah i guess we wait and see what stutters says first?
I was scum leaning on soren but it mustn't have been that strong because i had to actually go back and look at my own filter to remember why.
Also Rso before when we were talking about people that could have been bussing stutters if he is actually mafia you listed HTS as one i believe? (if this is wrong ignore the rest of this) The reason was she was the least committed to it i actually disagree with that because being around at the time it really felt like HTS wanted me to consider stutters and change my vote which would have brought him dangerously close to being lynched. I don't really remember being swayed by any of the others.
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On April 13 2015 09:01 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 08:58 Breshke wrote:On April 13 2015 08:49 rsoultin wrote:On April 13 2015 08:48 Breshke wrote:On April 12 2015 11:28 Stutters695 wrote:On April 12 2015 10:57 rsoultin wrote: nvm...caught up
meh, can see why ppl got cold feet
hope you keep feeling better oneg! <3 now...
-sits on onegu's head-
i find it hard to believe youve read my filter closely if you really think its mostly questions and metareads xP
stutters could be scum; knowing his alignment for sure would help explain the vote
or he could have just been at work? i think he said he was
anyway im here now if anyone wants to talk, but im driving back to sa tomorrow so prob wont be on for the rest of the night phase after tonight If I'm town, what do I gain from the vote like that? If I'm scum what do I gain? Assume I'm town for a second(you'll see why d2). Prpl tries to switch the wagon onto me. From a scum perspective: He mislynches me (I get harder to mislynch as the game goes on generally) and leaves him with 1/2 (depending on Dwarf's alignment) easy-ish mislynches at the cost of looking slightly worse for my mislynch. Do you think that would be a risk he'd take as scum from playing scum with him? I am really interested what stutters means by the bolded.. lol i had a theory that i'm not sharing >< sounds like you may have the same one, bresh Yeah i guess we wait and see what stutters says first? I was scum leaning on soren but it mustn't have been that strong because i had to actually go back and look at my own filter to remember why. Also Rso before when we were talking about people that could have been bussing stutters if he is actually mafia you listed HTS as one i believe? (if this is wrong ignore the rest of this) The reason was she was the least committed to it i actually disagree with that because being around at the time it really felt like HTS wanted me to consider stutters and change my vote which would have brought him dangerously close to being lynched. I don't really remember being swayed by any of the others. yeah? it was the impression i got while skimming...prp and tube seemed very convinced dwarf was town, but hts was late to the game? i don't know i could be misremembering. give me a sec
Dwarf? do you mean plot?
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On April 12 2015 05:35 Half the Sky wrote: Oh shit....just read Stutters' filter now, and I see where both Dwarf and prplhz are coming from.
His posts aren't exactly driving discussion.
Also I looked at the timestamps of when Stutters said he'll look into plotspot and when he voted him.
15 hours and change. So my previous possibility of "being in the middle of analysis" is off the table.
On April 12 2015 05:38 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 12 2015 05:37 prplhz wrote: okay lets kill stutters then
##Unvote ##Vote Stutters695
i'm going for a run wont be back until after deadline I could be down for shennaning on him but I'm still not feeling good about plotspot. I'll illustrate another case that irks me on plotspot.
I feel like you ened to look at these two earlier posts aswell though because it explains why she made another case on plot. Also that first post is seemingly what kicked prplhz to actually vote for stutters which then also caused tube to to try save plot. I feel like that would be a really strange post going into near deadline with someone that most of the thread thought had basically claimed scum.
I get what you mean about the switch too late thing but im willing to give some benefit of the doubt because there didn't seem to be many people around and the people that were did not seem interested in switching.
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hey sorry for dissapearing had to go out and phone wouldn't connect to the internet.
Ive only speedread the last pages but i still disagree with you on HTS . First of all people have been saying that HTS would swap to stuters there to make herself look better. Obviously this isn't true because noone is saying she looks good because of it. Also she was one of the eladers on the plot lynch and in most of my games the people leading the D1 lynches look good no matter the flip. I think as scum HTS would be way more cautious about swapping her vote there.
I also didn't really understand the bit about you saying she called plot town? Idk that isn't how i remember it i thought she thought they were both scum but then voted stutters because she didn't think stutters would bus so using pre flip association decided stutters would be better. If im wrong tell me.
Also this is ahrd to explain but once again when i woke up came into the thread it really only seemed HTS was trying to get me to look at stutters and change my vote i didn't really get that feeling from anyone else. It may read differently but thats how it was.
Also rso how does it make you feel that people are interacting with you yet dont really seem to read you. It is quite odd.
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On April 13 2015 10:16 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 10:12 prplhz wrote: man this hts business is super complicated. it's actually quite simple, prp ^^ hts drug her feet on the lynch, then voted on a wagon at the last minute that absolutely was not going to be lynched like, it doesn't even matter what stutters' alignment is? her vote switch makes no sense from a townie perspective. she didn't argue or push people to switch to stutters when she did, didn't make it clear that she no longer thought plotspot was town...if stutters is scum he's not getting lynched and she looks good later if he flips and she was on his wagon. if he's town she looks good for not mislynching himwhat does she achieve as town though? absolutely nothing
I also don't understand how she looks good for voting a town in a town v town vote thingo.
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On April 13 2015 14:12 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 14:06 Breshke wrote: hey sorry for dissapearing had to go out and phone wouldn't connect to the internet.
Ive only speedread the last pages but i still disagree with you on HTS . First of all people have been saying that HTS would swap to stuters there to make herself look better. Obviously this isn't true because noone is saying she looks good because of it. Also she was one of the eladers on the plot lynch and in most of my games the people leading the D1 lynches look good no matter the flip. I think as scum HTS would be way more cautious about swapping her vote there.
I also didn't really understand the bit about you saying she called plot town? Idk that isn't how i remember it i thought she thought they were both scum but then voted stutters because she didn't think stutters would bus so using pre flip association decided stutters would be better. If im wrong tell me.
Also this is ahrd to explain but once again when i woke up came into the thread it really only seemed HTS was trying to get me to look at stutters and change my vote i didn't really get that feeling from anyone else. It may read differently but thats how it was.
Also rso how does it make you feel that people are interacting with you yet dont really seem to read you. It is quite odd.
yeah i got that mixed up? obviously it doesn't make sense if hts was townreading plot; i meant to say scumreading. that's already been addressed i'd rather you actually read my case rather than speedread it frankly xP since i've already addressed pretty much everything you're talking about here frankly i don't know why she changed her vote. the main point is that she completely uselessly changed her vote. she literally did it at a point where it was meaningless. a scum motivation for that is to distance herself from the list, but more importantly i see no town motivation for it at all? nor do i see how her simply answering your question while not committing to the vote one way or another her trying to get you to change your vote did you reread that section or not? -_- as for people interacting with me and not reading me, i'm not sure what you're implying?
Not gonna lie i thought you were going to bed so i tried to get something out quickly so you'd stay around.
I feel saying her uselessly changing her vote is almost unfair though. You could say not changing her vote would have been useless aswell because the masses had either decided to stay on plot or were not around. I just dont think that you can look at it as she changed her vote to distance herself from that list when she was stills cumreading plot and was one of his original pushers. I also think if she was so worried about being on that list that she tries to distance from it ealier since that would look better and she wouldn't make a case on plot right before switching. Also does this mean you think a majority of the scum were on the plot wagon?
Not implying anything really because it could go either way (scum ignoring you because they dont think your an easy misslynch or scum ignoring u cos your scum). I just realize that the main way i read you is how you interact with vets and push your reads and how emotional or whatever you get so obviously you can understand why im having a hard time of it now.
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On April 13 2015 14:20 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 14:14 rsoultin wrote:On April 13 2015 14:13 Breshke wrote:On April 13 2015 10:16 rsoultin wrote:On April 13 2015 10:12 prplhz wrote: man this hts business is super complicated. it's actually quite simple, prp ^^ hts drug her feet on the lynch, then voted on a wagon at the last minute that absolutely was not going to be lynched like, it doesn't even matter what stutters' alignment is? her vote switch makes no sense from a townie perspective. she didn't argue or push people to switch to stutters when she did, didn't make it clear that she no longer thought plotspot was town...if stutters is scum he's not getting lynched and she looks good later if he flips and she was on his wagon. if he's town she looks good for not mislynching himwhat does she achieve as town though? absolutely nothing I also don't understand how she looks good for voting a town in a town v town vote thingo. for not mislynching plot...pretty sure i already clarified that too breshke -_- okay maybe i wasn't being clear lol >< the point was that even if stutters was town, not being on a wagon that flips town makes her look better at the momenti mean, you argue that she doesn't look better, but since no one brought it up before me and you've been arguing with me it clearly didn't make her look bad the salient point is that her vote was useless, and if she's town suddenly deciding plot is town and stutters is scum, why is she not pushing for others to switch with her, even in the last two minutes? am i making sense now?
This is the bit i have a problem with. Did she decide that plot was town? I was under the belief she thought both were scum but thought stutters had more chance of flipping scum because she didnt think he would bus a partner in plot. Basically i thought she was making a pre flip association.
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Also i kind of want to vote stutters until he explains why we would all understand he was town on D2 because there's no point pretending he didn't say that.
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On April 13 2015 14:25 prplhz wrote: the "she couldn't have been trying to look town because it didn't seem to work"-argument isn't good
Okay how about the argument that i dont think hts believes changing her vote in the last two minutes off of a town wagon THAT SHE HAD BEEN PUSHING makes her look town.
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On April 13 2015 14:28 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 14:25 Breshke wrote: Also i kind of want to vote stutters until he explains why we would all understand he was town on D2 because there's no point pretending he didn't say that. cool by me ^^ i'm curious, too care to answer my what the hell were you getting at with the no one is reading me question anytime soon, bresh?
I did here it is again though
Not implying anything really because it could go either way (scum ignoring you because they dont think your an easy misslynch or scum ignoring u cos your scum). I just realize that the main way i read you is how you interact with vets and push your reads and how emotional or whatever you get so obviously you can understand why im having a hard time of it now.
To add to it i had no diea where that question was going which is meh but i wanted to see if you had any thoughts on it. I know you said some people have read you but i dont really think anyone has taken that hard a stance except maybe onegu like you mentioned but he failed to deliver his case.
Also im rereading your hts stuff now
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On April 13 2015 14:35 rsoultin wrote:Show nested quote +On April 13 2015 14:21 Breshke wrote:On April 13 2015 14:12 rsoultin wrote:On April 13 2015 14:06 Breshke wrote: hey sorry for dissapearing had to go out and phone wouldn't connect to the internet.
Ive only speedread the last pages but i still disagree with you on HTS . First of all people have been saying that HTS would swap to stuters there to make herself look better. Obviously this isn't true because noone is saying she looks good because of it. Also she was one of the eladers on the plot lynch and in most of my games the people leading the D1 lynches look good no matter the flip. I think as scum HTS would be way more cautious about swapping her vote there.
I also didn't really understand the bit about you saying she called plot town? Idk that isn't how i remember it i thought she thought they were both scum but then voted stutters because she didn't think stutters would bus so using pre flip association decided stutters would be better. If im wrong tell me.
Also this is ahrd to explain but once again when i woke up came into the thread it really only seemed HTS was trying to get me to look at stutters and change my vote i didn't really get that feeling from anyone else. It may read differently but thats how it was.
Also rso how does it make you feel that people are interacting with you yet dont really seem to read you. It is quite odd.
yeah i got that mixed up? obviously it doesn't make sense if hts was townreading plot; i meant to say scumreading. that's already been addressed i'd rather you actually read my case rather than speedread it frankly xP since i've already addressed pretty much everything you're talking about here frankly i don't know why she changed her vote. the main point is that she completely uselessly changed her vote. she literally did it at a point where it was meaningless. a scum motivation for that is to distance herself from the list, but more importantly i see no town motivation for it at all? nor do i see how her simply answering your question while not committing to the vote one way or another her trying to get you to change your vote did you reread that section or not? -_- as for people interacting with me and not reading me, i'm not sure what you're implying? Not gonna lie i thought you were going to bed so i tried to get something out quickly so you'd stay around. I feel saying her uselessly changing her vote is almost unfair though. You could say not changing her vote would have been useless aswell because the masses had either decided to stay on plot or were not around. I just dont think that you can look at it as she changed her vote to distance herself from that list when she was stills cumreading plot and was one of his original pushers. I also think if she was so worried about being on that list that she tries to distance from it ealier since that would look better and she wouldn't make a case on plot right before switching. Also does this mean you think a majority of the scum were on the plot wagon? Not implying anything really because it could go either way (scum ignoring you because they dont think your an easy misslynch or scum ignoring u cos your scum). I just realize that the main way i read you is how you interact with vets and push your reads and how emotional or whatever you get so obviously you can understand why im having a hard time of it now. o.0 i don't know how i missed this post sorry lol >< i don't see how she can be scumreading plot, saying stutters probably isn't bussing, then vote stutters? that just doesn't make any sense? i'm not sure why me thinking her vote looks scummy translates to the majority of scum being on the plot wagon but i already said probably 1 or 2 were, but that's pure speculation? and yeah i get it lol i do act differently with vets...i kinda prefer letting them do their thing and commenting and only pushing the things i'm very certain of. these games i all too often feel the need to take the lead cause leadership is usually lacking :/
Like I have read the interactions with her and I just still don't agree.
I don't think towns reads have to always make sense. Like it makes sense to me that HTS can think plot is scummy. Then look at stutters and be like yeah this guy is scummy. Then be like shit why would stutters vote for plot if they were both scum together. Like have you never had two scumreads that dont really work together especially day 1? Thats why pre flip associations are so bad.
Nah it was more because you said she wanted to distance herself from that lsit so i assumed that ment she would want to distance herself from teammates on that list.
Obviously there is every chance in the world im wrong here but i just get stubborn about reads sometimes especially town reads. I like that one of the main problems you have is that she justified it with the "i dont think he would bus here" but having been swayed by pre flip associations in my own mind before i can understand how she changed her vote there.
Also 3#Vote Stutters
Until you explain why we would all see that you were town on D2
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err so i went back to cheack and i actually mixed up a HTS pushing TBD with HTS pushing plot. So this is awkward. Will have to re look at things
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On April 10 2015 09:59 Half the Sky wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 06:25 TheBloodyDwarf wrote: I hope our cop or vigi is guud. I don't want to die :| Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 07:55 TheBloodyDwarf wrote:Dude, I answered to that later. No need to dig so old things I know some attention was already brought to the first quote, and I had questioned as to why he was so fearful of death so early in D1 and when he wasn't under any threat now. The "digging old things" and the fact he's said it three times - even with emoticons - gives me the impression he's trying to dissuade Soren from looking into him, even if he's trying to show it jokingly. The vote on prplhz without explanation also makes scumlike behaviour with a page of filter afterwards and Breshke calling that vote into question.
This was the post btw. clearly about TBD and not plot. Not sure how i messed this up
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I legit feel really dumb right now. Feel free to go to sleep haha
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Also
##Vote Stutters
Got that wrong aswell
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I reread HTS and i still don't think that everything you guys are saying doesn't make her mafia.
Tube im not going to be ignoring your case I just dont feel like im going to go anywhere if i talk about it with you because i see your point and yes that is a logical inconsistency but i can also see a world where HTS says bussing has been popular but then would also think stutters wouldn't bus. I fully admit i could just be tunneld on the idea that HTS is town and is why i dont eally feel like pushing that anymore because I need to see other interactions involving her and stuff.
I once again want to point this post out because it will probabe be buried and i want a response when bourne comes back.
On April 12 2015 05:52 Bourneq wrote: Plot still seems like the obvious lynch to me. Stutters is certinatly a suspect but I see no reason in keeping plot around.
Can you explain what you mean by there is no point keeping plot around. You say stutters is suspect which infers scum yet you only want to lynch plot because you see nor eason to keep him around which seems null.
He explains the scumread on plot earlier in this post.
On April 11 2015 21:50 Bourneq wrote:Good mornign gents and ladies! I think we hit the nail on the head with plotspot in the recent pages. My personal reasoning behind scum reading plotspot is mainly from theese quotes Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 08:41 plotspot wrote: prplhz is 100% town. I can smell it.^^ I hate this post + Show Spoiler +On April 11 2015 07:43 plotspot wrote:Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 15:09 jarjarbinks wrote:On April 10 2015 08:41 plotspot wrote: prplhz is 100% town. I can smell it.^^ Plot, can you explain why you think this? I'm assuming you didn't actually 100% believe it, but you just think he's town. Also, what do you think of dwarf and onegu so far? whoa a post from the past.^^ How should I answer this. There is a world of mind. A world of speech and a world of action. I certainly said prplhz is town, I think his early initiative and throrough way of examination befits that of a townsperson caring for the town. about Dwarf I don't know, looks like a victim so far. Onegu? 70% town. I think the host screwed up. Everybody is town^^. Or he is lazy giving out the roles according to the order on the front page.^^ This should be easy. Man don't read anything from this, I just enjoy the game ok?^^ I mean I observe, this game it really helps to know the posting style or habit or a person. I really cringe at some conclusion about me, you are all paranoid.^^ Ok, I don't have the super reading powers. I just know that Half the Sky and Soren thinks 100% that I'm town. Make of it what you can. Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 23:00 Half the Sky wrote:On April 10 2015 21:00 plotspot wrote: Guys I'm at work, tonight when I have time I will try to detail out whats needed. Still concerning Onegu, before it crosses to real life, I said he was PLAYING LIKE a fucktard (for the couple of first posts that I saw at that moment), not that he is one. And he knows it. Judging by his tone he isn't offended. How is perceived poor play alignment indicative? IIRC you were scumreading or calling out scum behaviour based on him "playing like a fucktard?" Especially in a newbie game - yes I know Onegu is not a noob but the point still stands - how are you distinguishing between poor play and scum play? Wait. I didn't call him scum. I think you are awfully suspicious for talking like you know I'm 100% town. That's my original quote Show nested quote +On April 10 2015 08:12 plotspot wrote: I'm considering changing my vote to Onegu. He's playing like a fucktard. But of course I'm still not sure whether it's his strategy or him inadvertently not "getting" some of the things. I only said I considered switching my vote, because he made 2 strange mistakes, like wanting a voting thread or saying I didn't explain myself to prplhz when easy checking could have confirmed I did. It was very early in the game, but why am I explaining things, isn't the uncertainty what he is obvious in the quote? Mainly because of "Man don't read anything from this, I just enjoy the game ok?^^" And "I think you are awfully suspicious for talking like you know I'm 100% town." when he himself said prplhz was 100% town really early on. Not to meantion the 5 ^^, but I wont go into that. TBD is making my scum radar beep and its driving me crazy. I would like to see the dwarf do anything, just anything to further towns agenda. Or at least theorycraft with us. But he has done noone of that what so ever. The recent points brought against him also look solid. Now I will carefully examine prplhz and see if I have anything to bring to the table.
Yet he only points out posts of plots which he does not like but does not explain WHY he does not like them. This reads to me as him just trying to justify a reason to join the main wagon.
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In this game, I had an epiphany with minutes to spare and made a judgement that was reasonable 1) in the amount of time that I had and 2) with the material I had in front of me for Stutters. Which again, doesn't require the analysis that Tube seems to be setting as criteria.
To clarify was the epiphany you had that stutters was scum or that stutters wouldn't bus plot.
Could you also explain why you think stutters would not bus plot there or point to the post where you have already explained it if you have.
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Stutters have you seen the reason why I am voting you?
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On April 14 2015 10:51 Half the Sky wrote:Breshke, what are your thoughts on Stutters's latest comments? I honestly was going to case him based on his voting plotspot, and then realising he was in the thread, decided it'd be more efficient directly asking him xD Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 10:26 Stutters695 wrote:On April 14 2015 09:59 Half the Sky wrote: Stutters, you still in thread? I wanted to ask you two key questions regarding your actions D1.
D1, you expressed that Breshke was mafia. You considered prplhz and plotspot for lynch. You pushed Breshke in two posts, and I know you were AFK a bit from the thread D1, but ultimately voted plotspot after a load of people had done so.
I have two questions for you.
1 As a veteran, why were you so sure that plotspot was scumclaiming and not martyring? I understand some vets are familiar with martyring happening and prp has brought it up himself. 2 I know someone else queried you on it but I'm not seeing the response in your filter - had your thoughts on Breshke changed since D1? And if you were sure of Breshke, why didn't you push him further D1? 1. I wasn't. D1 is a bitch and I hate it. Once it was obvious Bresh/Prpl weren't options, I wanted to see one of the newbies hang because if one of them didn't, we'd be in the same predicament d2 and had basically wasted d1. I've played enough games where people martyr/give up as scum once caught early that I really don't know what to think anymore. 2. I've learned pushing lynches that won't happen just distracts town. Especially on d1 when we can afford a mislynch. I'd rather have a mislynch on someone I can't read, but I think is scum than someone I don't think is scum because I split a wagon, when d1 is a crapshoot anyway. They have changed due to his n1 posts, but I still want to see more out of him to decide. Considering you are the lead proponent of his lynch and (I could be wrong here?) you have yet to play with him, so...
I was voting him because of some comment he made in which he basically softed power role. He seemed to ignore the question when he first came back yesterday so that made me even more intrigued but i like his recent answer and am willing to let it slide until next day phase.
##Unvote
I currently want to lynch bourne but i need to read what rso wrote about him again and also read your case on him.
Also i think it is safe to infer we have a etup with a veteran and not a medic as noone has claimed roleblocked meaning scum most likely roleblocked HF which they would only do if they feared he was a vet. Or maybe a vigi but i find that less likely.
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On April 14 2015 11:27 Stutters695 wrote:Show nested quote +On April 14 2015 11:03 Breshke wrote:On April 14 2015 10:51 Half the Sky wrote:Breshke, what are your thoughts on Stutters's latest comments? I honestly was going to case him based on his voting plotspot, and then realising he was in the thread, decided it'd be more efficient directly asking him xD On April 14 2015 10:26 Stutters695 wrote:On April 14 2015 09:59 Half the Sky wrote: Stutters, you still in thread? I wanted to ask you two key questions regarding your actions D1.
D1, you expressed that Breshke was mafia. You considered prplhz and plotspot for lynch. You pushed Breshke in two posts, and I know you were AFK a bit from the thread D1, but ultimately voted plotspot after a load of people had done so.
I have two questions for you.
1 As a veteran, why were you so sure that plotspot was scumclaiming and not martyring? I understand some vets are familiar with martyring happening and prp has brought it up himself. 2 I know someone else queried you on it but I'm not seeing the response in your filter - had your thoughts on Breshke changed since D1? And if you were sure of Breshke, why didn't you push him further D1? 1. I wasn't. D1 is a bitch and I hate it. Once it was obvious Bresh/Prpl weren't options, I wanted to see one of the newbies hang because if one of them didn't, we'd be in the same predicament d2 and had basically wasted d1. I've played enough games where people martyr/give up as scum once caught early that I really don't know what to think anymore. 2. I've learned pushing lynches that won't happen just distracts town. Especially on d1 when we can afford a mislynch. I'd rather have a mislynch on someone I can't read, but I think is scum than someone I don't think is scum because I split a wagon, when d1 is a crapshoot anyway. They have changed due to his n1 posts, but I still want to see more out of him to decide. Considering you are the lead proponent of his lynch and (I could be wrong here?) you have yet to play with him, so... I was voting him because of some comment he made in which he basically softed power role. He seemed to ignore the question when he first came back yesterday so that made me even more intrigued but i like his recent answer and am willing to let it slide until next day phase. ##UnvoteI currently want to lynch bourne but i need to read what rso wrote about him again and also read your case on him. Also i think it is safe to infer we have a etup with a veteran and not a medic as noone has claimed roleblocked meaning scum most likely roleblocked HF which they would only do if they feared he was a vet. Or maybe a vigi but i find that less likely. Why? Who is going to prot the new guy?
Roleblocks are notified. Noone has said they were roleblocked which you 100% do because theres no reason not to. This means that HF was roleblocked as he was killed.
There is only a couple cases where this is useful. You must remember scum knows the setup
If he is cop and gets medic saved he doesn't get a check (not likely if it is a cop medic setup scum would probs try spread out their kill and roleblock unless they were sure someone was a role.
If he is vigi he dies and doesn't get his shot off. (This doesn't feel that important as even if the vigi shot htis town doesn't gain a miss lynch and there is a possibility of vigi hitting a town.)
Finally if they know there is a vet they want to ensure that they dont have to put kp on him twice. While this doesn't gain town a miss lynch town gains a confirmed town for at least one phase.
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