On December 10 2014 00:38 liancourt wrote:
Then what does it mean? U are so sure of this why?
Then what does it mean? U are so sure of this why?
Its not alignment indicative.
Also stop typing U rather than You. Its again, fucking annoying.
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On December 10 2014 00:38 liancourt wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2014 00:31 Oatsmaster wrote: lian is fucking annoying but it doesnt mean hes scum. Then what does it mean? U are so sure of this why? Its not alignment indicative. Also stop typing U rather than You. Its again, fucking annoying. | ||
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I had so much faith. | ||
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Come on guys, this is simple....... ANYWAY ITS COMPLETELY RANDOM WHAT THE PRESENTS ARE, STOP TALKING ABOUT IT. Tubesock, whos scum? | ||
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##unvote Although I dont completely agree with his case on xata. I really really hate all the list posts, what are they for? Completely dont get it. ##vote froggy This is the right one today. | ||
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On December 10 2014 22:42 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2014 19:31 Tubesock wrote: On December 10 2014 19:06 LoneMeow wrote: Why did you vote Xatalos after saying you don't understand the wagon and essentially making a light push on the opposing wagon? I was pissed. I'm still mad. Once Koshi responded that my post was completely worthless due to the claim which I missed. I reverted to my previous read of Viv and sheeped him. I calmed down a bit and thought about my scum read on Obi, my uncertainty about Rasputin, and realized that all through their talk about Xatas they never cited NB as a claimed role. So, I ninja'd back my vote to 27NB. Why would we? NB never claimed a role. If she did and I missed it, please link. There was a miscommunication involving a caroling vid, but she flat out said that was not a claim. That list is getting way more attention than necessary. It was never that important to begin with, and if she says that iffy was meant as null and people to look at was meant as scum, then fine. She should know. Regardless, it should raise enough doubt to get those of you who are hyper-focusing (and have been from the start) on froggy and NB cause it's convenient and they were the first to draw attention to take a step back and actually look at some of the other players in the game. The point that she is not as strong a scum case as before does call into question Xatalos' decision to vote her when he wasn't comfortable with it before. Maybe he has no other scum reads (kinda scary), but if so, he has time to defend himself. So whats your read on Xata now? | ||
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On December 10 2014 22:58 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2014 22:42 Oatsmaster wrote: On December 10 2014 22:42 rsoultin wrote: On December 10 2014 19:31 Tubesock wrote: On December 10 2014 19:06 LoneMeow wrote: Why did you vote Xatalos after saying you don't understand the wagon and essentially making a light push on the opposing wagon? I was pissed. I'm still mad. Once Koshi responded that my post was completely worthless due to the claim which I missed. I reverted to my previous read of Viv and sheeped him. I calmed down a bit and thought about my scum read on Obi, my uncertainty about Rasputin, and realized that all through their talk about Xatas they never cited NB as a claimed role. So, I ninja'd back my vote to 27NB. Why would we? NB never claimed a role. If she did and I missed it, please link. There was a miscommunication involving a caroling vid, but she flat out said that was not a claim. That list is getting way more attention than necessary. It was never that important to begin with, and if she says that iffy was meant as null and people to look at was meant as scum, then fine. She should know. Regardless, it should raise enough doubt to get those of you who are hyper-focusing (and have been from the start) on froggy and NB cause it's convenient and they were the first to draw attention to take a step back and actually look at some of the other players in the game. The point that she is not as strong a scum case as before does call into question Xatalos' decision to vote her when he wasn't comfortable with it before. Maybe he has no other scum reads (kinda scary), but if so, he has time to defend himself. So whats your read on Xata now? Eh, I don't really have the time to answer this, to be honest. You can see it sprinkled through my other posts. I'll try to be back in enough time to change my vote if it's warranted, but gotta work. Ciao. HE JUST POSTED LIKE A TON. COME ON MAN. . thats why i said, now, as opposed to nothing. | ||
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On December 10 2014 23:06 KelsierSC wrote: Alright don't know who is in the thread so just going to spout some stuff. So the first read I had of NB was that she didn't contradict herself and then hf explained how and afterwards I was like yeh you're right and I read hf as town for that. So then NB comes back to the thread and pings me out for having soft reads or something, again like I just don't agree but I suppose if you have a different playstyle then yeh you can see that as scummy I guess. She then gives her read on viv which is really not explained that well at all, she linked to a post and apparently he made "substantial" posts. She also made the post "you need to learn how to read me, you are stupid" to somebody. Which I really didn't like because it is just mafia faking indignation. How can she possibly think she projected town. So yeh I would happily vote that, if it wasn't for tubesock voting her which is really giving me pause but I will talk about that later. So then viv shows up and he just kind of bw onto nb by calling me scum but he can't just sheep the read right, he has to make up some reasons, so apparently my scrooge thing was scummy because i am trying to get scrooge to claim and not making a play. So many things wrong with that, it was a specific play and the the retraction was immediate, No one in their right mind would actually claim there. I then called ff scum as a result and followed up, again viv says I didn't. he also calls me scum because I don't like people giving slam an immediate town read. Again the case is really fucking weak and it just looks like he has is trying to find a reason to call me scum rather than actually do it. His case on Xat is weak, it is because he town reads me. I think I have played pretty town and because Xat actually analysed my play and read the thread he is scum. yeh I just think these are bad reads so viv could be scum. So then after this we get a few people who bw onto the vote, OWS, who just posts shit anyway , FF who I think is scummy, then rsoult...who might just be misguided. So then tubesock, also votes on xat despite not understanding the wagon, but then unvotes again to go back on nb, even though nb pushes on me who he thinks is bad for town. His main reason I am bad for town...because I talked to a woman and because apparently my reads aren't substantial. so this is a sheep of the nb reason (a terrible reason) , so you just sheep the read of your top mafia, So then I have to evaluate what I think of tubesock because his play is so non sensical. So then I think well maybe NB could be town and tube/viv are the mafia. Like I look at the votes on nb and a lot of my town aare voting there, but then HTS and tube vote... I think my scum lynch would be LS, FF, viv and tube..pretty ok with that can you edit this down to like 4 lines? Cause it seems like a whole lotta fluff shit and thats bad. | ||
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On December 10 2014 23:08 froggynoddy wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2014 09:37 27ninjabunnies wrote: On December 10 2014 04:39 froggynoddy wrote: Why do you keep saying this is doublespeak? This is not double speak fella. I think you should explain why you seem to think so as I don't think I can explain myself any better than I already have. On another note I don't like lists (apart from Santa's of course). Way too easy to appear town without actually doing anything to benefit town. FOS: Ninja (i.e. defends me without really defending - adds a list - no other content or justification) and possibly Templar (list, does no justify reads, everything posted so far is just description of other people's reads - fluff - or overreaction) Still reading... Also, how jerky is this? I defend his ass saying his post is not alignment indicative. Go through hell for it, and he fucking scum reads me. What is this shit? Also 4 posts? Never should have defended you. You should only regret defending me because you think I am scum, not because you dislike my reaction. I found your play relatively fluffy, appearing to be active when not contributing to town. Just because you are defending me does not make you town. Similarly even though Damdred attacked me I think his play is pretty townie. You should not be looking for jerky play you should be looking for scummy play. Generally I also don't like people defending other sas it stops them from responding. Its also easy for scum to look town by defending town. Re low post count: TBH I am finding this game relatively overwhelming. first game in a while and the only reason I thought I would be able to be active is due to the post restriction... this has not worked or at least people are posting without content which is making is making it more difficult. I have had a look at LS - though again I disagree with most of his reads I feel that he is just being clumsy (like me it seems) rather than scummy. I really don't like Rit's posting. will have anothe rlook at filter by tonight and decide on whether I find it scummy as well as bad/weird. I will also have a closer look at Templar since he has come back, but from what I can see he seems to be contributing so null read. So all your reads are null? Dont you have any super strong reads either direction? | ||
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Meh, actually Im not too torn up on bunnies dying. | ||
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On December 12 2014 11:11 rsoultin wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2014 11:05 Half the Sky wrote: 2am...FML. Good night, will continue on this around lunchtime or so. LS, I will remember to follow up on Oats, but I'd say for now, it's not looking good. He just seemed way more involved. Rasputin, since you're here, can you give a comparison of Oats' gameplay as you know it versus what we're seeing now, (or if you have an opinion, then what?) we are trying to see if we can compare playstyles and get something alignment indicative. My opinion from SMIV is that it's not looking good, but this isn't a mini game either. LS gave a load of links to go through a few pages ago. Heh, he's certainly less present this game, but the only one I'm comfortable giving a meta-read on is SL, and that's just cause he's so careless it's obvious. As a near plynch, sure...but I wouldn't vote Oats Day 2 unless I see something scummy from his corner, and he's reading more null than anything to me right now. I havent done jack shit and you dont have a read on me? actually that makes sense. disregard. Froggydude still the best lynch for today, look at the shit he has written. | ||
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On December 12 2014 12:20 sicklucker wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2014 12:12 Holyflare wrote: No that's dumb because you don't include the part where he could be mafia AND GIVE THEM AN EXTRA KP OR A CHANCE TO SNIPE ROLES. I'd agree if he looked towny. He doesn't at all. That would be even better. We would hit a for sure mafia tomorrow(him) and hopefully one today! We should set it up so he has to prove himself if he lives the night. If we vote him now its like a 50/50 in my mind or worse. Why not wait till the odds are better? because thats how the game works? You kill the person you think is the scummiest. What happens if he says roleblocked or some shit. Same shit different day. pushing this issue back isnt gonna help anyone. Can you seriously tell me that you think there is better than a 50% chance to lynch anyone else in the game? I dont actually think ritoky is scum but you know, answer the questions. | ||
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On December 12 2014 21:25 GlowingBear wrote: Oats, I want you to say exactly why you want to lunch frog. sounds appealing. Er mainly its for the waffle around the policy lynch, not policy lynch shit that wasnt waffle but shouldve been waffle. And the templar read. Early day 1 - (when he is meant to be busy): lots of fluffy no content reads; Mid Day 1 - Comes back with something again that looks constructive but is not (see FF's deconstruction that I would tend to agree with) Late day 1 - no real pressure on him (apart from me kinda and FF kinda) - says a few things of no value - goes away (whilst this is when he was meant to be more active). This is a super fluffy read that doesnt even show anything. Its super generalized and can be used for like half the players in the game. So its a contrived read that he did because he didnt feel comfortable doing something about nb and preferred to stay out of the spotlight. He scum yo. | ||
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On December 12 2014 22:10 GlowingBear wrote: I want to read more of the thread before making a case on HF, but a lot of his reasoning is off. The lack of push on ritoky's present claim, the multiple scumreads of wagons outside the 27nb wagon and the 27nb mislynch is all playing against him. His entrance in this game is awful, he picking on bunnies for being contradictory when picking up on frogs awful entrance but not picking on Vivax post on frog... This kind of double standards worries me. explain pls. Im not feeling it. | ||
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On December 12 2014 22:17 The_Templar wrote: Froggy's read on me isn't terrible. It shows a pattern at least. Slam is town based on what I've heard on him. a pattern of what? Its like bad, dunno why you are calling a scumread on you good for no reason. I really dont like it when people do that. | ||
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Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have. Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game. Come on Vivax/hf other bad people. | ||
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On December 13 2014 15:38 Vivax wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2014 15:36 Oatsmaster wrote: How is nk analysis even relevant? Its straight up speculation. Look at how many other reads the dead people have. Fecal has more posts than like 50% of the game. Come on Vivax/hf other bad people. This post looks so mafia to me right now. Do I care? no. Trefel or Froggy is it today. Actually do I prefer trefel? Yes yes i do. ##unvote ##vote Trefel | ||
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