Why didn't you go at him again about those reads he was hesitant to share with you before GB?
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SL (I wrote a case on him before even if ritoky says its not strong) it still stands. Templar is an equally good lynch. Starting on n1 templar does some weird things in light of his previous day play. 1) His reads are almost nonexistent by the large, we have a case on SL, a NULL read on Damdred a Null read on GB and a scum read on lian and Slam I believe. He had a scum read on myself and it vanished after he said I looked somewhat towny in some of my posts even if it took me awhile to get their. He still calls me null at this point but throws a bit of dirt on me in this post On November 24 2014 23:58 The_Templar wrote: Damdred is a null read, Alakaslam is a town --> null --> slight scum read as I read through his filter. Damdred's responses to my pressure are towny, although they take a while to get anywhere. My first problem with him now is his response here. So first of all, he doesn't actually answer your question about slam. He also tried to make me look worse than I should look for pressuring him over the night. Let me put something very clearly right now: I was not reading him as a slight pink solely because he was saying I was town, but because he was trying to look like he was contributing without providing any substance. He ridiculed my pressure of him in its aftermath which is extremely confusing, acting as if I should have never tried. So, I read him null at the time as these two conflict quite a bit. Also, I already said this was an actual meta-read, and that it didn't exist for the sole purpose of being a trap. I said this multiple times so I don't know why he's mentioning anything else. Alakaslam: I don't really know him at all and he's extremely confusing. That said, his posts towards the end of day one gave me a town vibe as he was active, asking questions to gather current data instead of merely reading the thread to catch up (although it seems he did both). The exception: Followed by a "You don't want to lynch him? Then who do you want to lynch?" post towards me, followed by switching to lead the lynch on the other lurker. If he was going to lynch a lurker, why did he bother to do anything besides figure out why he should unvote me? Also, I'm curious on this post. I have seen no evidence of what Chezinu has been said to be capable of in this thread. All he is doing is posting images of various geometric shapes, save one large list of reads. So unless he "knows" the mafia the above post is just filler. His day 2 activity is similarly confusing to me. His activity pre-page o' spam mainly consists of talking about the night actions and not actually doing anything about the reads flying around, as he did in day 1. Nice explanation of voting me... wait Most of his posts that aren't talking about the night actions are "I will consider this" followed by not really doing anything about it, filler, asking for help figuring people out, or stuff I actually can't read like this The thing about the Chezinu read in this post is that we don't know how Alakaslam sees him. We just know that he respects him as a player, nothing he has said about Chezinu is actually alignment-indicative. I don't know, he seems like he is dodging doing anything helpful that makes sense. His list of reads looks rushed (and I can barely read it) and he hasn't done anything original since day 1 at all except filler. I feel like this heavily depends on his meta but I've already been driven to madness by looking through his filter here. Will you still have this opinion if Rayn is basically confirmed as mafia by the host? (Although I seriously doubt that will happen as mafia Rayn probably asked by PM, no?) What he did over night was not pressure it was start a pissing match over different methods and he spent an hour berating me for town reading him without quotes basically and went on to say my sl case was good. He says I do not answer GB about how i read slam when I literally answered "Hey i don't know how to read slam but this is how others told me to read him" Either way his sudden shift from scum reading me to town reading me doesn't make a lot of sense and shows little progression in the way hes went about it. His scum read on lian is pretty much unexplained besides OMGUS I believe, he doesn't give much in the way of thoughts as to why lian is scum besides the initial ok this guy is starting to play horribly at the start of the game. I think he has a mafia read on Slam currently but i'm not sure as his post lacks conclussions and his push on d2 seems to amount to nothing, slam comes down to his filter drives him mad which isn't a read in itself. 2) During his talk with GB and myself in d2 he said a few times he was hesitant to discuss his reads On November 23 2014 14:27 The_Templar wrote: 1) Meta, not much else to say 2) I am hesitant... I just haven't expressed it as much as I've been thinking it. I don't want to risk discussing all of my reads with you at this point because of that. 3) Soft claims as obvious as that one are bait for me. I will always ask questions when you make a statement like that, also meta. He says it a couple of other times and GB and myself asked him for these reads so the thread could discuss them. But he dodged and never came back to give these reads that he was hesitant to show. 3) Lack of follow through with things he has said before in the thread, he had a scum read on me as previously mentioned going into d2 and has said before that if my play had not picked up d2 he would push for my lynch. Instead of this promised push (admittedly i've been more inactive over the weekend time period) he decides to null read me and barely mention me at all. His push today on SL is my own scum read and is a meta case in which earlier he said he hated meta cases and then goes onto say that its partially a trap to see if people aren't reading the thread. He says he himself is not reading the thread though, he has unexplained scum reads and his reads on people switch from one extreme to the other without thought being seen in the thread just vague ideas. This guy is scum vote him with me | ||
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On November 25 2014 08:43 ritoky wrote: why are both of you placing so much more effort into that other game and not this one? your filter in the other game is already 1/4 of yours in this game damdred, and dat game only been up for like 30 minutes. I've put effort into this game i've made two cases and voting for what I think is scum though i'd be happy to lynch SL as well. And its kinda hard for me to talk by myself honestly makes me feel uncomfortable to just post with no one to talk with i guess | ||
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I've been here with you and GB somewhat fighting, I don't like a GB lynch I thought i said it before. So basically you don't mind lynching half of the players left? | ||
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On November 25 2014 08:57 ritoky wrote: one of your scum reads, in SL, is here and actively posting; why aren't you pushing that read to get more information out of him? like it can only give you more information to further your read or make you see him in a different light....yet you're basically not even interacting with him in this thread...go over to the other thread and voila. do you really want to lynch SL? I would be really happy to lynch SL today becuase I think that my case on him is still pretty solid and he has been a bit wishy washy even today with his "Oh I would switch to lynch this person" hes not briningmuch thought to the thread and just seems to go with the flow overall. And I thought we have been down this road before ritoky with reading me as one alignment or another based on two different games going on at the same time? | ||
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On November 25 2014 09:01 ritoky wrote: i don't have many towns. and i have 4 scum reads, you read my reads post cuz you commented about it earlier. I believe I did read your reads post, i hate being scum read on activity but some of the things you mentioned about me were pretty good observations I must admit. I'm just no sure about the GB overall it still looks like town GB with all the bluster and hard to define reads | ||
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On November 25 2014 09:07 ritoky wrote: yes and last time you were different alignments in them and the one you put more effort into was the one you were mafia in. but then again i was also mafia trying to push a ML on you, so don't blame me for having a bs reason in that game. my issue with you this game is i don't see you REALLY following through. like you go into the tunnel a bit when you have a scum read like myself, and i don't see that happening in the slightest. further, it feels to me like you're really trying to stay out of the fray and not get involved in the really contentious topics. or at least not at the times when they are really contentious. Haha I don't blame you at all that game, i'm just glad i cop checked you that game for whatever reason. Your first point is valid I know that I have a problem with tunneling and have somehwat been trying to correct that, you played hearthstone with me and I tried my best not to tunnel in that game. I think HF was giving me crap about pushing my SL read when I shoudl be sheeping him on hopeless as well. The last point well I find hat to be a bit nitpicky though, if i'm here I try to talk through everything if i'm not its hard to be involved and yea. | ||
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On November 25 2014 09:11 sicklucker wrote: Of course ritoky I also agree we should lynch gb over templar. Ill help you convince people but I feel they all want templar gone first "Oh hey i'm happy as long as anyone dies thats not my partner" | ||
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On November 25 2014 09:13 sicklucker wrote: Damdred who would you lynch outside of the obvious plays of me and temp I can only hunt one scum at a time obviously, but chez is almost a policy lynch type deal going for him. | ||
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Rayn doesn't even comment on what I've done just said can't remember bah | ||
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