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Blazinghand
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On November 02 2014 02:23 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 02:21 Damdred wrote: I'll take bad town, not any different from most of the thread.
And look at jrkirby he once again changed vote when it wasn't going in the way that he wanted I changed vote when I realized I was completely misreading what alakaslam meant.
Outside of certain corner cases, 90% of the time that people scumread Alakaslam it has nothing to do with his alignment, it has to do with the fact that Alakaslam's posting is always weird as heck. Not an insult, Slam-- just an observation. Let the blues take care of him.
On November 02 2014 02:26 Holyflare wrote: 1) ObiWanShinobi <--- random town reads based off of almost nothing and talking about useless crap, talks about how much of a waste analysing jb is and then does it 5) risk.nuke - 0 posts 0 posts of content but is a "good player?" his quote btw 11) Alakaslam - never have any clue really 12) Blazinghand - probably scummiest mofo, excuse for being afk for a ridiculous amount of time (dinner????????) and then rng to fill in the gaps of "content", then NOT pushing his rng target like a mofo and no fake rng case content after that 13) Damdred - massive long post on why jay is town and then asked to post reads and didn't post anything else despite saying he had more notes, pretty scummy especially when jay is super borderline not town that i wanted to put him on this list
potential people to add:
seuss jay tolkien
\look dude the reason i had to do RNG is I had to leave for dinner. I'm back now and here to save u so let's lynch GB
On November 02 2014 02:26 jrkirby wrote: Also, the longer we don't hear from blazinghand, the more I'm inclined to agree with Oats. Even if he does want an RNG lynch, he's not even pushing it like his hand is blazing.
It just doesn't smell like a towny BH.
I was at dinner! give me a break guys, don't you ever eat dinner
On November 02 2014 02:47 Holyflare wrote: bh is probably the best lynch at the moment
look the day even got extended, no problem we have time to consoldiate onto gb
On November 02 2014 02:45 Holyflare wrote: each one of my list is quite clearly a reasonable case to lynch that person
yeah actually your list post is fine as long as you pick a top guy and push him; ideally a top guy who isn't bh. you should flesh it out more
On November 02 2014 03:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Did anyone actually CLAIM Aldor Peacekeeper?
not me
On November 02 2014 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Ehhhh....I think whoever is Aldor Peacekeeper is mafia. Making the lynch into a majority lynch speaks of someone trying to save whoever was up for lynch when it was plurality. :/
Anyone else getting that same vibe?
ah, it made it majority lynch eh
well I should prepare some non-GB scumreads then in case I can't convince you yahoos to get on him, since as the shennigan king I am solely responsible for the avoidance of no-lynches
On November 02 2014 03:26 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Ehhhh....I think whoever is Aldor Peacekeeper is mafia. Making the lynch into a majority lynch speaks of someone trying to save whoever was up for lynch when it was plurality. :/
Anyone else getting that same vibe? i dunno i just thought the extra time was pretty pro town
I think it's pretty pro-BH at least since I'd probably get jubjubbed since I had dinner up until now and now I get 27 hours to lynch GB instead of 24
On November 02 2014 03:27 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I'm probably going to end up voting BH when all is said and done. y
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Blazinghand
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On November 02 2014 03:27 Holyflare wrote: well damd is aldor then i dunno how obvious he wants to be but i think that probably takes him off the table... maybe
Well, assuming Damdred is aldor I don't think him using his ability is a tell outside of "damdred doesnt' want to die". If he's scum, he's using it because he's hoping we can't get a majority lynch together, and to save his ass. If he's town, he's using it because he doesn't want to get mislynched. It would have been a lot more interesting if someone ELSE had used the ability to save a lynch target-- that would give us more info once the target was flipped-- but someone saving themselves doesn't tell us much.
On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me.
I get what you're getting at here, and that's a fair statement. But I don't think you're adequately looking at this from Damdred's point of view as a potential townie. If he's town, he's not like you or I, who are like the Ancient Liches of being town. Damdred might not get what the consequences of majority lynch or no-lynching are. Most importantly, he might feel he can push his own read in 24 hours, and he wants to avoid a no-lynch. I don't draw much info from this usage of a power, because it's self-serving. If someone else used it on Damdred, that would tell us more.
I'm not sure I get the damdred crumb, btw-- maybe someone coudl link me-- but if there's no real crumb, and no claim, that makes mafia involvement more likely. Someone silently extending D1 and added majority requirements to save damdred is probably playing against town. Soemone silently extneded D1 and adding majority requirements to save [i]himself[i] doesn't tell us about his alignment. Does that make sense?
On November 02 2014 03:30 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me. Do you think that only scum gets that role? No that's not what I'm saying at all - I don't think what "cards" people are points to alignment at all. I think his USE of the power feels scummy as hell.
Yeah, but even a townie coudl panick and try to save himself, right?
On November 02 2014 03:31 Damdred wrote: Sure, i'm up for lynch and in a 9 hour time frame I doubt I could put out enough content especially when a lot of the other people who look scummy to me are somewhat policy lynches in the case of miser, GB shouldn't be lynched today due to the fact of the biggest filter though still hasn't done anything they promised so theres that, and i'm trying to bounce ideas about jrkirby to get feedback while i'm writing my case.
So I really don't want to die as a power role i doubt i get nk'd because i'm a horrible towny, so its just lynch i have to avoid.
This is the part where you claim your role, usually, not where you use your roll like a punk then make vague allusions to it.
On November 02 2014 03:31 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me. Funny that you can to the thread just to say that. Seems opportunistic to me. Also, huge coincidence that thing happening and you coming in here, right?
dude what are you smoking, VE's point (at least the first part) is objectively correct
oh wait you're scum how could I forget
On November 02 2014 03:33 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:31 GlowingBear wrote:On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me. Funny that you can to the thread just to say that. Seems opportunistic to me. Also, huge coincidence that thing happening and you coming in here, right? damd has claimed aldor so i have no idea what you are trying to say with your last line there and what ve is saying makes sense and damd is your like 100% scum read so wtf dude
interestingly, although I disagree with all of you about what Aldor means when used to save oneself, HF is spot-on in noticing yet another inconsistency in GB's reasoning (hint: GB is scum so all his reasoning is artificial). HF probably town.
On November 02 2014 03:37 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:34 Holyflare wrote:On November 02 2014 03:31 Damdred wrote: Sure, i'm up for lynch and in a 9 hour time frame I doubt I could put out enough content especially when a lot of the other people who look scummy to me are somewhat policy lynches in the case of miser, GB shouldn't be lynched today due to the fact of the biggest filter though still hasn't done anything they promised so theres that, and i'm trying to bounce ideas about jrkirby to get feedback while i'm writing my case.
So I really don't want to die as a power role i doubt i get nk'd because i'm a horrible towny, so its just lynch i have to avoid. but where are your notes!?!??!?!?!?!?! I have notes, i'd rather not crap up the thread with them all and i have to get my computer going. which person would you like them on
dude this is literally the time to crap up the thread with your notes, what's wrong with you. What did you give us all this time for if not to read your "notes"? or are there no notes
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Blazinghand
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On November 02 2014 03:39 GlowingBear wrote: He could've made them by now. C'mon.
yeah as much as I hate to say it, GB is correct here. Damdred coudl easily have posted his notes, and even gave us an extra day to read them. So... where are they?
On November 02 2014 03:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I already don't like a Damdred lynch.
y
On November 02 2014 03:45 Holyflare wrote: i mean if he HAD these notes then why the fuck would he need to increase the day time because he's afraid of being lycnhed in 9 hours????? all he has to do is copy and paste them seeing as that's the reason people are lynching him for
^^ that's the best reason why he's scummy
HF telling it like it is
ugh, am I gonna end up voting damdred over GB? that woudl be such a garbage move. I hate when I have to be right instead of hilarious
On November 02 2014 03:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:44 Holyflare wrote:On November 02 2014 03:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I already don't like a Damdred lynch. you are literally useless so it's a good thing you have no sway if you want to be not useless can you explain why he makes a giant case on someone being towny and then says he just copied his notes but then refused to paste the rest of them?? I don't see how him not pasting his notes matters. I just don't see any of the things that he's done as coming from an exclusively scum mindset. I'd press for more spotlight and stuff but I'm still not entirely sure what's going on with this push. I'm perfectly willing to let things play out for now because I have work in like 30 minutes and we have plenty of time to talk regardless.
how could that possibly not matter. He just gave us time to not lynch him, and he supposedly has all these amazing notes, and now we have time to read them.... and where are they?
so they obviously don't exist, which is fine, but not if he's gonna keep on stringing us along and wasting our time.
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Blazinghand
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On November 02 2014 03:54 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:31 Damdred wrote: Sure, i'm up for lynch and in a 9 hour time frame I doubt I could put out enough content especially when a lot of the other people who look scummy to me are somewhat policy lynches in the case of miser, GB shouldn't be lynched today due to the fact of the biggest filter though still hasn't done anything they promised so theres that, and i'm trying to bounce ideas about jrkirby to get feedback while i'm writing my case.
So I really don't want to die as a power role i doubt i get nk'd because i'm a horrible towny, so its just lynch i have to avoid. He is already predicting he is not going to be the night kill. Damdred, why did you use your power?
I think he meant, "if i didn't claim, and also managed to avoid the d1 lynch, I wouldn't get nked since i look like shit, and then I'd get lynched d2".
On November 02 2014 03:56 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:45 Holyflare wrote: i mean if he HAD these notes then why the fuck would he need to increase the day time because he's afraid of being lycnhed in 9 hours????? all he has to do is copy and paste them seeing as that's the reason people are lynching him for
^^ that's the best reason why he's scummy
yup
On November 02 2014 04:00 Damdred wrote:+ Show Spoiler +ObiWanShinobi- Overall feeling no clue. Can never figure out Obis meta, but he seems town. The posts http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=19#366seems a good mindset to have http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=19#376http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=33#659Has tangible thought behind what he does. Compare it to Storm Mafia 2, or the game where he was scum that yamato did hes pretty towny and his mindset seems ok just wish he would give more content. LT- Null right now, his posts overall have been pretty trolly. Could possibly be mafia Jaybrundage- (notes redacted already in thread) Blazinghand- seems to be inactive leaning more towards scum meta with excuses to seem active. 10 hour dinner, next thing he will be posting boxes. Slam- I need to learn how to read him better, no clue Seuss- This guy seems pretty town currently, some concerns with the way he just hands out a few townreads but puts good pressure on me to give reads http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewpost.php?post_id=23207450backs it up witih a vote. Could be scum looking for a good mislynch but leaning town currently. risk.nuke- no clue inactiveish VE- Not sure content seems sparse compared to other games. Gives townreads without much explanaiton http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=21#408Says go after risk.nuke lurker Not opinonated like normal, this ve could be mafia Liancourt- Jokey about being scum but can't remember much. HF- looks like hf from ffl, look more into d2 Ritoky- Town http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=26#506http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=26#508http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=27#528pressures people follows it up, doesn't just focus on less visible people and shows a willingness to lynch people regardless even if they have the biggest filter Misder- Fished for roles, could be scum not sure seems pretty lurky. Circumstance- Possible scum http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=10#198Shows a bi tto much knoweldge could be a misinterpretatio by me. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=32#638Doesn't have a ton of reads showing and most of it is pretty easy to back off of. GB- (redacted thoughts are in thread) Jrkirby- (redacted in another file working on case) Oats- Brings attention to himself with fighting GB, can't really read oats well. He seems to have some thoughts and pushes gb and others, I think hes pretty towny but not sure. lets see if i did it right
So damdred, your "notes" are a list post and they are:
OWS null LT null JB ... redacted BH ... scum? inactive? slam: null seuss: town risk: null VE: null/scum Laincourt: scum HF: scum Ritoky: hmm, this is an ok town read. should have tracked followups to the questions in post 1 and post 2. more nnull reads and shit
this is liek the worst list post ever. I would never organize notes liek this.
here, here is what my notes look like: + Show Spoiler +
that's an example of good notetaking. In any case, damdred's notes are like, a travesty against notehood.
on the other hand, I actually don't really care if damdred gets lynched or not any more. Somehow, my interest in lynching him has gone way down since he posted his notes. REading them is... somehow, it's like, depressing. It lowers my energy level. I can'gt even accurately quantify it, but it's like... it's like that feeling of being in bed and not wanting to talk to anyone. The mental version of physical exhaustion, or being tired of exposure to... damdred.
honestly I usually feel this zeal to lynch people, and i just can't, erm, "get it up" for damdred. it being my zeal, of course. It seems like objectively I should want to lynch him for this list post that's pretending to be notes, but it's-- it's so half-assed. Shit man, I can't even deal with this. I'll formulate my read on him based on future things.
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Blazinghand
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On November 02 2014 04:01 Damdred wrote: Some of its a bit out of date and bare bones didn't do a lot of filtering yesterday and haven't added to it today much
Like on some level I want to lynch you just for how bad your notes are, but then a good portion of me thinks it's a bad move. I keep on thinking it's like "too scummy to be scum" 's evil twin sister, "too crappy to be scum" which is actually how I make some reads. Obviously if you're town here you've made some bad moves... but if your'e scum, what are you even doing? these notes are so bad. They could have been written in like 30 minutes. And the weird computer excuses (which were obviously written from a computer, mind you)? No, this is the evil twin of Lynch All Liars.
You see, Lynch All Liars tells us to lynch people who try to fool town. But Damdred isn't fooling anyone. There's no lies here, in the sense of anyone being decieved. Just Damdred making weird noises.
On November 02 2014 04:03 VisceraEyes wrote: Ehhh....like, I don't like that you redacted the JayB notes out because that was going to be what I used to determine whether the notes are fabricated or not. It's in a spoiler, why would you redact something out of them?
UUUUGGGHHHHHHHHHH
yeah this is also annoying. This ties into the whole damdred thing though, like.... if he were really lying. You'd think he'd at least do a good job of it, you know?
On November 02 2014 04:04 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 04:03 VisceraEyes wrote: Ehhh....like, I don't like that you redacted the JayB notes out because that was going to be what I used to determine whether the notes are fabricated or not. It's in a spoiler, why would you redact something out of them?
UUUUGGGHHHHHHHHHH ^ this. I'm killing damdred. See you guys in 25 hours.
I, what?
On November 02 2014 04:06 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 04:03 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 03:59 GlowingBear wrote:On November 02 2014 03:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 03:55 GlowingBear wrote:On November 02 2014 03:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 03:44 Holyflare wrote:On November 02 2014 03:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I already don't like a Damdred lynch. you are literally useless so it's a good thing you have no sway if you want to be not useless can you explain why he makes a giant case on someone being towny and then says he just copied his notes but then refused to paste the rest of them?? I don't see how him not pasting his notes matters. I just don't see any of the things that he's done as coming from an exclusively scum mindset. I'd press for more spotlight and stuff but I'm still not entirely sure what's going on with this push. I'm perfectly willing to let things play out for now because I have work in like 30 minutes and we have plenty of time to talk regardless. You really can't understand what is scummy about him lying? I don't understand why scum would tell such an easily verifiable lie. But do you understand why a town would lie about having notes instead of just saying he was answering a question? He slipped. He wasn't invested into finding scum. That's all. I don't know how you jump from "lying about notes" to "not scumhunting." That is a fairly remarkable leap. ... 2 separate things. 1) he is lying, BOOM 2) he post an analysis why someone is town but couldn't analyse why someone is scum, so... Not scum hunting BOOM
LAL is a crap strat. There's a reason my policies don't include LAL and it's situations like this.
On November 02 2014 04:06 Damdred wrote: sorry ve, i was just trying not to make thread cluttered if i messed up spoiler tag,
GB won't even consider not lynching a power role zzzzz, at least ve is showing decent paranoia about my claim instead of just lynch damdred no matter what. GB is probably the mafia here
this is the best lie I've ever seen. Like, the guy can't find this:
that's literally his reaosning for making weird "edits" to his "notes"
it's obvious he wrote them on the fly. It's obvious, damdred. you can stop lying. It's ok. really. Only GB "believes" (i say this because he's scum and is just looking for an excuse) in LAL.
On November 02 2014 04:09 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not talking anymore. If you guys don't lynch damdred I won't play this game anymore, so you should lynch me. Bye.
yeah see, GB opting out of the thread become I can come back and end him. typical scum play. especially with like 30 hoursl eft in the day.
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Blazinghand
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On November 02 2014 04:10 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 04:09 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not talking anymore. If you guys don't lynch damdred I won't play this game anymore, so you should lynch me. Bye. what the literal fuck.... i'm claiming a blue power role and this is the response? I post my notes though ve mad about redacting and this is what you do. Good job gb is a good lynch then
I don't mind the help, Damdred, but you 100% have to explain in detail your thought process between here:
On November 02 2014 03:31 Damdred wrote: Sure, i'm up for lynch and in a 9 hour time frame I doubt I could put out enough content especially when a lot of the other people who look scummy to me are somewhat policy lynches in the case of miser, GB shouldn't be lynched today due to the fact of the biggest filter though still hasn't done anything they promised so theres that, and i'm trying to bounce ideas about jrkirby to get feedback while i'm writing my case.
So I really don't want to die as a power role i doubt i get nk'd because i'm a horrible towny, so its just lynch i have to avoid.
And Here:
On November 02 2014 04:06 Damdred wrote: sorry ve, i was just trying not to make thread cluttered if i messed up spoiler tag,
GB won't even consider not lynching a power role zzzzz, at least ve is showing decent paranoia about my claim instead of just lynch damdred no matter what. GB is probably the mafia here
And it's gotta be better than "GB doesn't blindly believe my claim"
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Blazinghand
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On November 02 2014 04:12 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 04:04 GlowingBear wrote:On November 02 2014 04:03 VisceraEyes wrote: Ehhh....like, I don't like that you redacted the JayB notes out because that was going to be what I used to determine whether the notes are fabricated or not. It's in a spoiler, why would you redact something out of them?
UUUUGGGHHHHHHHHHH ^ this. I'm killing damdred. See you guys in 25 hours. gummybear, stop being such a cummybear
FTFY
On November 02 2014 04:15 Lord Tolkien wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 04:09 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not talking anymore. If you guys don't lynch damdred I won't play this game anymore, so you should lynch me. Bye. zzzzzzz So what happens if we do bend over and damdred is town? Do we still lynch you?
we lynch GB first.
On November 02 2014 04:21 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:30 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 02 2014 03:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me. Do you think that only scum gets that role? No that's not what I'm saying at all - I don't think what "cards" people are points to alignment at all. I think his USE of the power feels scummy as hell. i dunno, maybe it's the former host in me, maybe it's the conspiracy theorist in me, maybe somethin else; it's just hard for me to imagine that there is 0 unifying themes between mafia members.
role and fluff =/= alignment. I say this based on many themed games I've played on TL. Aldor Peacekeeper is an Paladin card, but let's be real here: Paladins can be real poopheads on the ladder. So we can't explicitly call it a scum or town card. Instead, look at how it was used (as VE said) and see whose agenda it supports
On November 02 2014 04:28 ritoky wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 04:09 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not talking anymore. If you guys don't lynch damdred I won't play this game anymore, so you should lynch me. Bye.
ritoky ilu
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Blazinghand
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On November 02 2014 05:19 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 04:28 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 04:09 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not talking anymore. If you guys don't lynch damdred I won't play this game anymore, so you should lynch me. Bye. Blazinghand you must You have the paint for this You must capitalize the opportunity
heh
On November 02 2014 05:20 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 05:09 jaybrundage wrote:On November 02 2014 03:27 Holyflare wrote: well damd is aldor then i dunno how obvious he wants to be but i think that probably takes him off the table... maybe Why? He is under the impression that it cannot be a scum role.
On November 02 2014 05:21 Alakaslam wrote:Also the trying to use flavor to figure shit out. No. Any host knows how fun it is to Phux with people regarding that, I remember a game where mafia were the town and cops were the scum
yeah.
On November 02 2014 05:21 Lord Tolkien wrote: Well, Aldor suggests Paladin role, and Paladins are lawful good (and Uther is Alliance).
And no one complains about Paladin in HS so I'm metagaming damdred as town.
this is awful logic and you should feel awful for using it. but... if it gets you to vote GB... ok.
next it seems Damdred writes a case and that deserves its own response from me
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Blazinghand
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On November 02 2014 05:59 Damdred wrote:I think jrkirby is scum, His entrance to the thread was odd, GB pointed this out in another post but the first real post that starts raising my suspicion is here http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=11#213At this point, circumstance is being put under pressure for a slip on a word and his reaction is being tested. And the response that is given before any real explanation can be had is that circumstance is basically ok right now. It feels a little bit like a defend before any real information can be found out feels like buddying and given out a pass for no reason. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=18#351gives out another townread without any explanation or going back to it. What was good about hfs posts exactly? Also he talks about the cat a good bit in his filter which is safe for scum to talk about, http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=14#270http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=15#283http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=15#293http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=22#421http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=25#493http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=25#494http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=25#496http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=27#526Most of his second page of filter is talking about the cat safely. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=29#568Wants to lynch a lurker who was not really active to that point, low hanging fruit. He then goes on to talk about rng some, he seems some what against it but once BH answers him he says this http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=31#604He has a town lean on GB but why leave his LT vote who he thinks hasn't done anything and is scummy and go to GB who he town reads. This is weird, it seems like hes trying to find a safe spot to put his vote it seems like BH might get some support in the thread so he moves his vote to go with it. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=32#622Doesn't look like the GB lynch will take off so he moves back to LT once he looks up the stats on RNG lynch. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=35#689Tries to find another spot to park his vote does not get the desired results chaulks it up o a misundersanding and moves on to misder http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=39#770He then admits to being behind in the thread, goes on to say that he will try to read my filter again to answer gb http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=39#778Never actually makes another comment about me (he has been absent though), and tries to jump on BH when someone else (oats) says he looks scummy. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/mafia/469686-hearthstone-mafia?page=40#791Overall, He gives townreads without giving any thought, does not seem really to be scum hunting hes jumping his vote around to see what he can find easiest to lynch and really hasn't commented on a lot of burning issues. That in which he has commented on its been in a way thats easy for him to fall back from, I think he is scum and should be the lynch today.
Thread entrance looks fine to me. he's giving a read. that plus the rando townread in HF certianly look more contributory than they are bit it is'nt an issue. I don't really care about his HF townread in any real way.
it does seem like he has lots of fluff. his RNG vote is solid, then he backs off based on statisics (yes, when the GB lynch doesn't get traction).
I don't think jrkirby has played an amazing game but i don't midn the reasoning he gave for moving off of rng. I don't want to lynch him today, and although he's made plkenty of safe posts, he hasn't made a lot of errors of reasoning or shown a scum mindset. You've made a good case for "jrkirby isn't doing a lot to help the town or drive discussion" which is.. ok, I guess. but jrkirby isn't me or VE. he gets a little time to get his shit together. I won't lynch him today.
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Blazinghand
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On November 02 2014 06:32 GlowingBear wrote: If damdred flips mafia I'll lynch HF
a bit more explanation of your unflipped associative read (ew) would be nice, scum.
On November 02 2014 06:34 Holyflare wrote: I mean... Meh.. I read it and i can see why you think he is scummy but a lot of it is based on just unexplained reads which you never actually got him to explain so that doesn't make him scum it just makes him unexplained. A lot more people also talked heavily about the cat, one of them being jay who you super town read so not sure how you think kirby talking about it is scummy and then the rest is i dunno.... Just not scummy? Yeh voting for gb is weird but looking up the rng stats just seems like a lot of trouble to do and somewhat tedious for mafia to give a reason for unvoting someone who has the most pages in the game when he could literally just say that.
Finding bh scummy is towny though
yup, also yup to that last bit. if you're an inexperienced town player, your natural response to me is shock, awe, and terror-- so you fear me, and want to lynch me.
On November 02 2014 06:38 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 06:34 Holyflare wrote: I mean... Meh.. I read it and i can see why you think he is scummy but a lot of it is based on just unexplained reads which you never actually got him to explain so that doesn't make him scum it just makes him unexplained. A lot more people also talked heavily about the cat, one of them being jay who you super town read so not sure how you think kirby talking about it is scummy and then the rest is i dunno.... Just not scummy? Yeh voting for gb is weird but looking up the rng stats just seems like a lot of trouble to do and somewhat tedious for mafia to give a reason for unvoting someone who has the most pages in the game when he could literally just say that.
Finding bh scummy is towny though The main difference I think is that Jay pressures people and tries to get reads out of people I believe with the two, throwing out the cat parts ok thats fine. BH would be a good bus though.
more associative tells? Also, I make a crap bus, nobody ever lynches me as scum d1. it's always like d3-4
On November 02 2014 06:39 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 02:44 Holyflare wrote:On November 02 2014 02:30 jaybrundage wrote:On November 02 2014 02:26 Holyflare wrote: 1) ObiWanShinobi <--- random town reads based off of almost nothing and talking about useless crap, talks about how much of a waste analysing jb is and then does it 5) risk.nuke - 0 posts 0 posts of content but is a "good player?" his quote btw 11) Alakaslam - never have any clue really 12) Blazinghand - probably scummiest mofo, excuse for being afk for a ridiculous amount of time (dinner????????) and then rng to fill in the gaps of "content", then NOT pushing his rng target like a mofo and no fake rng case content after that 13) Damdred - massive long post on why jay is town and then asked to post reads and didn't post anything else despite saying he had more notes, pretty scummy especially when jay is super borderline not town that i wanted to put him on this list
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Stop the shitty list post. I WANNA A CASE DAMMIT. Preferably one that you don't directly misrepresent things. i don't misrepresent anything you can quite literally say what you want but everyone else knows that what i said wasn't a misrepresentation and the only reason you're not on my list is the amount of butt hurt that you are displaying about it and the fact that you actually did something that wasn't talking about policy but it was on me so that's why you're close to being on my list again Hm weird Alakaslam said this so Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 04:14 Alakaslam wrote: HF always likes to put words & intent into posts that weren't ever there.
Does this as both alignments. You should literally find out what "everyone" means. I can't wrap my head around the fact that you could do this as both alignments. It is such a scummy, mafia-esque trait. Here is an example of something you said that was distinctly wrong. I'm sure you will ignore it tho. Rofl you remind me of Cartman stealing Jimmy's joke and being completely oblivious to the truth. HF you really believe that you haven't been misrepresenting me at all this entire time. Oh my god, Wait, I totally get it now. All this time I have been mad at you HF for trying to misrepresent me. But now I realize that your ego has made you believe that things happened differently, that's what Alakaslam was trying to tell me. That you have such a huge ego that you do these mental gymnastics so you don't appear wrong. I thought you were intentionally being thick. But now I realize that some people have egos that are so out of wack. That no matter what people tell them. They can't accept the truth of what actually happened. HF I realize now that you can't help but think you never made a mistake, Because your ego won't let you think otherwise. Oh and btw and I couldn't give two craps if I'm almost on your list. You ARE still on my list. I have yet to see good reasons why you aren't scum. The only problem is that people that have played with you previously aren't getting any scum vibes. And as I have no previous experience playing with you that i can remember . I'm deferring to their judgement of you.
yeah, so, some context about alakaslam. alakaslam is generally incoherent, and except for certain cases, unreadable. Sometimes he gets really motivated as town, or whatever, (like the more fun he seems to be having, and the more he cares about the game, the more town he is), but his posts are like, pretty much illegible in terms of content. As I've played wtih him more I've gotten better, but I still rely on blues to take care of him. All this doesn't mean you shouldn't read slam's posts, though. he is trying to help. he just speaks a different language.
that being said, why are you flamebaiting HF? What's the angle here JB
On November 02 2014 06:42 Holyflare wrote: It literally does not matter if i am wishy washy, "misrepresnting" or whatever. At the end of the day all i have to do is lead the town to lynch mafia and if you are posting about me representing YOU but then start posting about me town reading someone for their role when that didn't happen at all then all it does is make you look completely terrible. yeah I buy this. maybe it's just my way of thinking but this is a 100% town way to think/act. maybe HF is faking it, but he's not as good as me so I'm guessing not. heavy lies the crown.
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Blazinghand
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On November 02 2014 06:49 jrkirby wrote:Where the hell are BH and Misder? The longer they are gone, the scummier I feel they are. To me, damdred reads like bad town, cracking under pressure. You shouldn't care that he claims blue though, because it looks like all the reds are going to have random powers too. But overall, it doesn't read like scum, more like clueless town to me. + Show Spoiler [Crazy Theory, not important] + Although I did for a second entertain a crazy theory - GlowingBear and Damdred are scumbuddies. GB pushes the Damd lynch day one, if it flips mafia he gets an easy rest of game. He's been on Damd's case since the beginning of the game literally.
double bus, eh? possible. it happens. but towncred from a d1 lynch like this where both have suspicion doesn't last long enough for it to be a viable strat. we'll see. but yeah damdred not ag ood lynch today, HF is where it's at.
aaand it looks like I'm caught up! Now I'll be interacting with people who have posted since I've started posting.
On November 02 2014 07:09 Damdred wrote: BH welcome back to the thread when summoned, what do you think about other things happening in the thread? Busy today?
you can see my many posts.
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Blazinghand
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On November 02 2014 07:11 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 07:07 Blazinghand wrote:
Fair enough. Look at how GB has responded to RNG this game. Most people who don't like RNG just dismiss it, or call it bad (which eventually, it seeems he did). What GB isntead has done has said it was "disruptive" somehow (even though basically i was the only one voting along those lines) and responded with a counterattack against me. Is this how a town player, one who is familiar with RNG, would react? Why not just call RNG bad? Why not just call me scum for using RNG? Why call attention to the fact that RNG is disruptive to the town discourse, or say that it's unusually bad becuase it landed on him? This is not how my thought process would go if I were RNGed as town and I think it shows us that GB is scum.
It was probably OMGUS. That's what it looked like to me. BH, who do you read as scum?
"it was probably OMGUS" is not a valid excuse. I don't think GB has had a town mindset this game. I will collate all my posts on GB once I am caught up in the thread to explain a solid case on him.
I like GB for scum. there are a couple other weirdos who have made bad posts who I'd be okay with. I'm not down for lynching damdred today.
On November 02 2014 07:13 Alakaslam wrote: BH you really think GB is scum
yeah i'll make a post collecting my total thoughts on him, an ultimate case of doom.
On November 02 2014 07:17 Damdred wrote: Ok BH is town, hes actually catching up and giving thoughts on stuff. He shouldn't be the lynch today even though he called me inarticulate
not a good reason to townread me. -1 points
On November 02 2014 07:18 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 07:13 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 07:06 jrkirby wrote:On November 02 2014 06:56 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 06:49 jrkirby wrote:Where the hell are BH and Misder? The longer they are gone, the scummier I feel they are. To me, damdred reads like bad town, cracking under pressure. You shouldn't care that he claims blue though, because it looks like all the reds are going to have random powers too. But overall, it doesn't read like scum, more like clueless town to me. + Show Spoiler [Crazy Theory, not important] + Although I did for a second entertain a crazy theory - GlowingBear and Damdred are scumbuddies. GB pushes the Damd lynch day one, if it flips mafia he gets an easy rest of game. He's been on Damd's case since the beginning of the game literally.
why is risk.nuke not in that list anymore? has your scum read on him evaporated? if so, why? No, I just forgot to mention him. I'd jump on risk in a second if I thought we could get majority. He's done almost absolutely nothing for town. i just glanced through your filter. it seems you have or had scum reads on: LT, slam, GB, BH, misder and risk....that's 6 mafia reads....a couple i don't really feel are explained. as for your town reads...you have 1 on circumstance for being "level-headed" early on and no real mention of anything since... so my question here is, do you care who gets lynched or do you just care about lynching someone and being in the majority like you just stated? I no longer have scum reads on slam or LT. I think HF is town, not sure about circumstance tbh. I don't think I ever said GB was scum. It's been closer to null all game for him. Could go either way with how he's playing. If BH, misder or risk get lynched I wouldn't mind. BH's back in the thread so he might change my mind. Anyone else - I need some serious convincing, but I much rather have somebody lynched than nobody lynched.
what makes it a null game for GB? he's been making a lot of posts and that's convinced many people... but not you? you unvoted him earlier. can you explain why, or who your head honcho for lynching is? it seems like you're lost, and you don't know who to lynch. seems like you need something to guide you. something untouchable. something pure. something perfect. something policy.
something like RNG
On November 02 2014 07:19 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 07:17 Damdred wrote: Ok BH is town, hes actually catching up and giving thoughts on stuff. He shouldn't be the lynch today even though he called me inarticulate Don't think this makes him town at all unless you think his mafia meta is literally to do nothing always in which case you are wrong.
good smackdown
On November 02 2014 07:19 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 07:17 Damdred wrote: Ok BH is town, hes actually catching up and giving thoughts on stuff. He shouldn't be the lynch today even though he called me inarticulate You just like that he's defending you.
that's probably it.
On November 02 2014 07:20 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 07:19 Holyflare wrote:On November 02 2014 07:17 Damdred wrote: Ok BH is town, hes actually catching up and giving thoughts on stuff. He shouldn't be the lynch today even though he called me inarticulate Don't think this makes him town at all unless you think his mafia meta is literally to do nothing always in which case you are wrong. Every time he has been scum that i've seen (if you can point me to a game woudl be cool) where all he did was make excuses post during certain time periods and never actually commented on anything. So give me a game to look at so i can have a better rounded opinon then
in my offense, I did make excuses about dinner this game. in any case, if I tried to like claim I was moving house again, peopel would just autolynch me. you can only pull that one so many times.
On November 02 2014 07:25 jrkirby wrote: Also, one thing for clairification. Damdred breadcrumbed aldor and then it happened, and then he claimed, right?
Can someone quote or link these two posts for me, because I am sometimes a little slow about this.
here's his crumb: (link) where he says he can lengthen the day here's his post (link) where he claims it and points out the crumb
yeah i'm a pretty sicknasty scum player. don't forget my play as Eccleston either, that was dope
On November 02 2014 07:31 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 07:29 Holyflare wrote: hogwarts is completely different to this game as bh was like afk the entirety of the first 2 days I think his writing style is similar.
?details?
you also must show how it's different than a game as town
but you're not actually gonna do a meta read on me, area you? cause you're faking it cause you're scum.
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Blazinghand
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On November 02 2014 07:34 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 02:08 Damdred wrote: 1) I was asked why i townread someone I answered 2) I did copy paste notes its not that hard 2.1) Don't understand this? 2.2) I posted my notes soon as I dropped my wife off for work and came home 2.3) Nobody can require me to do anything someone asked me about a read and I gave them my notes, you did not take the opportunity you asked me if I was scum after I posted and i feel like being an asshole to you since I think your scum 2.4) Its not hard to copy posts I like into a page and then when I post put QUOTE around stuff... 3) I have 10 hours 9 now (or longer depending) to decide on who I think is a good lynch. kirby has a scum trait i pointed out.
This isn't good reasons to lynch someone There is my crumb. Then it happened, i did it
yeah this definitely proves that damdred is either a blue or scum.
On November 02 2014 07:38 Holyflare wrote: all this bh stuff looks pretty fake btw because reading the thread makes it all irrelevant
[] bh cares [✓] bh doesn't care
On November 02 2014 07:39 GlowingBear wrote: Funny how you hard defend damdred
i'm not laughing. re you gonna make a point or waffle
On November 02 2014 07:43 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 07:42 Holyflare wrote: have you got short term memory loss? i defended lian and robik from your crappy anti-town reads last game and was correct and pushed for all the mafia and also did the same thing in fantasy 1 where i defended lian and damd and was correct and pushed for all the mafia Well, this is not the game here, so that doesn't help me. Anyway, you can continue arguing with BH.
what are HF and I arguing about? we've had like no interactions
On November 02 2014 07:44 Holyflare wrote: like the only reason you pushed damdred is that he didn't have his notes and he's 100% scum for it (much like bh, ve etc etc) and now he has his notes and i'm "hard defending" someone you shouldn't even be scum reading anymore
like wtf?
all of GB's reads are entirely constructed/fabricated because GB is scum
On November 02 2014 07:46 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 07:35 Holyflare wrote:On November 02 2014 07:31 jaybrundage wrote:What I find hilarious about all this is I basically used an entire South Park quote for the middle paragraph + Show Spoiler +On November 02 2014 06:39 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 02:44 Holyflare wrote:On November 02 2014 02:30 jaybrundage wrote:On November 02 2014 02:26 Holyflare wrote: 1) ObiWanShinobi <--- random town reads based off of almost nothing and talking about useless crap, talks about how much of a waste analysing jb is and then does it 5) risk.nuke - 0 posts 0 posts of content but is a "good player?" his quote btw 11) Alakaslam - never have any clue really 12) Blazinghand - probably scummiest mofo, excuse for being afk for a ridiculous amount of time (dinner????????) and then rng to fill in the gaps of "content", then NOT pushing his rng target like a mofo and no fake rng case content after that 13) Damdred - massive long post on why jay is town and then asked to post reads and didn't post anything else despite saying he had more notes, pretty scummy especially when jay is super borderline not town that i wanted to put him on this list
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seuss jay tolkien
Stop the shitty list post. I WANNA A CASE DAMMIT. Preferably one that you don't directly misrepresent things. i don't misrepresent anything you can quite literally say what you want but everyone else knows that what i said wasn't a misrepresentation and the only reason you're not on my list is the amount of butt hurt that you are displaying about it and the fact that you actually did something that wasn't talking about policy but it was on me so that's why you're close to being on my list again Hm weird Alakaslam said this so Show nested quote +On November 01 2014 04:14 Alakaslam wrote: HF always likes to put words & intent into posts that weren't ever there.
Does this as both alignments. You should literally find out what "everyone" means. I can't wrap my head around the fact that you could do this as both alignments. It is such a scummy, mafia-esque trait. Here is an example of something you said that was distinctly wrong. I'm sure you will ignore it tho. Rofl you remind me of Cartman stealing Jimmy's joke and being completely oblivious to the truth. HF you really believe that you haven't been misrepresenting me at all this entire time. Oh my god, Wait, I totally get it now. All this time I have been mad at you HF for trying to misrepresent me. But now I realize that your ego has made you believe that things happened differently, that's what Alakaslam was trying to tell me. That you have such a huge ego that you do these mental gymnastics so you don't appear wrong. I thought you were intentionally being thick. But now I realize that some people have egos that are so out of wack. That no matter what people tell them. They can't accept the truth of what actually happened. HF I realize now that you can't help but think you never made a mistake, Because your ego won't let you think otherwise. Oh and btw and I couldn't give two craps if I'm almost on your list. You ARE still on my list. I have yet to see good reasons why you aren't scum. The only problem is that people that have played with you previously aren't getting any scum vibes. And as I have no previous experience playing with you that i can remember . I'm deferring to their judgement of you. and IT FITS SO DAMN WELL!! It's towards the end. click@HF I never assumed anything I asked a question to you about your post. Alakaslam made an assumption that sounded about right. If you have such a problem answer the damn question yourself. On November 02 2014 06:42 Holyflare wrote: It literally does not matter if i am wishy washy, "misrepresnting" or whatever. At the end of the day all i have to do is lead the town to lynch mafia and if you are posting about me representing YOU but then start posting about me town reading someone for their role when that didn't happen at all then all it does is make you look completely terrible. This is what I said On November 02 2014 05:09 jaybrundage wrote:On November 02 2014 03:27 Holyflare wrote: well damd is aldor then i dunno how obvious he wants to be but i think that probably takes him off the table... maybe Why? On November 02 2014 05:21 jaybrundage wrote:On November 02 2014 05:20 Alakaslam wrote:On November 02 2014 05:09 jaybrundage wrote:On November 02 2014 03:27 Holyflare wrote: well damd is aldor then i dunno how obvious he wants to be but i think that probably takes him off the table... maybe Why? He is under the impression that it cannot be a scum role. That's dumb But you somehow can make "Why?" and "That's dumb" Into JayBrundage "posting about (HF) town reading someone for their role when that didn't happen at all then all it does is make (JayBrundage) look completely terrible." That is the quote from HF I don't even know what to say. I said three things but he interpreted it into this drivel: JayBrundage "posting about (HF) town reading someone for their role when that didn't happen at all then all it does is make (JayBrundage) look completely terrible." Guys can we just lynch HF? Do people still think hes town at all? Yes. Not only have I already explained WHY to the quote during the whole damdred discussion (which proves that you haven't read the game) but then you further agreed with slam saying something that was completely false (which proves that you haven't read the game). So yeh. It makes you look completely terrible that you are pushing this point further when you are so clearly in the wrong because you haven't caught up with the current events and i've already claimed a provable town role. Not sure why I even respond to you cartman. And either prove it or stop yapping about your provable town role
just treat him as town for now and interact with him reasonably, unless your'e going to push him.
On November 02 2014 07:47 Holyflare wrote: gb you don't even mention obi hard defending damd BEFORE HE EVEN POSTED HIS LIST which is pretty bad if you're going to accuse people of hard defending and make associations
oh man given obi's various shitposts this is pretty legit. Why hasn't GB been on OWS?
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Blazinghand
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On November 02 2014 07:51 GlowingBear wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 07:44 Holyflare wrote: like the only reason you pushed damdred is that he didn't have his notes and he's 100% scum for it (much like bh, ve etc etc) and now he has his notes and i'm "hard defending" someone you shouldn't even be scum reading anymore
like wtf? He had no scumreads. He put more effort to say why someone is town than to say why someone is mafia. When asked to make a list, he delays it for a lot of time, then comes back with notes with little content in them, drastically contrasting with his read on jay, which was much more in depth and which he says he just copy pasted. No post was quoted on his notes, just links. Why the jay read is so drastically different from every other? (Regarding writing style). He doesn't have a strong scumread HF, and you lynched bats for that. It makes me baffled that you didn't call damdred for that for so long. You have him time to write the list, HF. You know he could be writing them since I inquired damdred. Yet, when he had you his list; you were completely ok with that.
so your scumread on damdred stays, but the reasons change, eh? So clearly one (the conclusion) is more improtant than the other (the reasoning that led there)
cause you're scum
On November 02 2014 07:54 GlowingBear wrote: HF, if you're town, you should be ashamed that you are tunnelled just because you RNGd.
wat
On November 02 2014 07:55 Damdred wrote: BH, I understand you don't like how I took those notes while i'm on my home computer.. but please at least be respectful some of the things you said were quite hurtful. I'm not lying I just can't play on the computer much to update them or keep them as neat and tidy as I want. So thank you, I really don't care anymore I got scum read for not posting my horrible notes and now bh wants to lynch me for horribly written notes. I'm not sure why I even bother here anymore.
dude I was defending you so no need to get all snippy about it. You don't see me voting you, and I think we BOTH know you wrote those notes on the spot, and didn't have any before hand. That's fine. really.
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Blazinghand
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On November 02 2014 07:56 Damdred wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 07:55 Blazinghand wrote:On November 02 2014 04:10 Damdred wrote:On November 02 2014 04:09 GlowingBear wrote: I'm not talking anymore. If you guys don't lynch damdred I won't play this game anymore, so you should lynch me. Bye. what the literal fuck.... i'm claiming a blue power role and this is the response? I post my notes though ve mad about redacting and this is what you do. Good job gb is a good lynch then I don't mind the help, Damdred, but you 100% have to explain in detail your thought process between here: On November 02 2014 03:31 Damdred wrote: Sure, i'm up for lynch and in a 9 hour time frame I doubt I could put out enough content especially when a lot of the other people who look scummy to me are somewhat policy lynches in the case of miser, GB shouldn't be lynched today due to the fact of the biggest filter though still hasn't done anything they promised so theres that, and i'm trying to bounce ideas about jrkirby to get feedback while i'm writing my case.
So I really don't want to die as a power role i doubt i get nk'd because i'm a horrible towny, so its just lynch i have to avoid. And Here: On November 02 2014 04:06 Damdred wrote: sorry ve, i was just trying not to make thread cluttered if i messed up spoiler tag,
GB won't even consider not lynching a power role zzzzz, at least ve is showing decent paranoia about my claim instead of just lynch damdred no matter what. GB is probably the mafia here And it's gotta be better than "GB doesn't blindly believe my claim" It's meta reasoning, GB is playing towards his scum meta of making promises never delivering tunneling on one person and being very passive. I was scared to lynch into a big filter and I really still am.
got evidence and links for this meta read? or are you just making things up.
in any case, RNG doesn't lie. vote GB.
so you don't have like, details or whatever, specific posts you could easily link if you actually already read this, and you're going to make every other player do this? Dude Damdred I am super SOOPER lazy and I'm kinda hung over from all the dinner I ate so you gotta make this easier for me.
On November 02 2014 08:02 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me. Do you think that only scum gets that role? Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:34 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 03:30 VisceraEyes wrote:On November 02 2014 03:30 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 03:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Like there's now a possiblity that we don't even GET a lynch. That move doesn't feel pro-town to me. Do you think that only scum gets that role? No that's not what I'm saying at all - I don't think what "cards" people are points to alignment at all. I think his USE of the power feels scummy as hell. I just don't see it I guess? I can see what you're saying, but I'm still not going to vote him for it because I don't find that fact compelling enough to pursue. Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I already don't like a Damdred lynch. Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 03:44 Holyflare wrote:On November 02 2014 03:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I already don't like a Damdred lynch. you are literally useless so it's a good thing you have no sway if you want to be not useless can you explain why he makes a giant case on someone being towny and then says he just copied his notes but then refused to paste the rest of them?? I don't see how him not pasting his notes matters. I just don't see any of the things that he's done as coming from an exclusively scum mindset. I'd press for more spotlight and stuff but I'm still not entirely sure what's going on with this push. I'm perfectly willing to let things play out for now because I have work in like 30 minutes and we have plenty of time to talk regardless. Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:57 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 03:55 GlowingBear wrote:On November 02 2014 03:49 ObiWanShinobi wrote:On November 02 2014 03:44 Holyflare wrote:On November 02 2014 03:42 ObiWanShinobi wrote: I already don't like a Damdred lynch. you are literally useless so it's a good thing you have no sway if you want to be not useless can you explain why he makes a giant case on someone being towny and then says he just copied his notes but then refused to paste the rest of them?? I don't see how him not pasting his notes matters. I just don't see any of the things that he's done as coming from an exclusively scum mindset. I'd press for more spotlight and stuff but I'm still not entirely sure what's going on with this push. I'm perfectly willing to let things play out for now because I have work in like 30 minutes and we have plenty of time to talk regardless. You really can't understand what is scummy about him lying? I don't understand why scum would tell such an easily verifiable lie. really think obi is scum for this chain of posts + rest of game stuff btw, when people like me and ve were posting infallible reasons why damd is probably scum for not posting notes obi the entire time was calling him not scum based on absolutely nothing whatsoever and how he didn't like the lynch at all. He quite literally says "not posting the notes doesn't matter" when it quite clearly DOES matter because that is what scum are going to do and not town. Town wouldn't lie about having notes at all and he doesn't even say this.
OWS has defintely made some head-scratching posts, and his "confusion" about cards and alignment might be a scumslip, or might just be a lack of a town mindset / thought process. I think that's fair to say. I also don't like the part where he says "I don't see how him not pasting his notes matters" when it's like, literally THE THING that matters. If you look at a ton of OWSes posts from aroudn that time, they're all like "I don't know" and "I don't understand how" etc. He has no interest in solving the game, just casting doubt. This is scum-motivated.
I buy it. I'll lynch obi for his weird posts if necessary to avoid a no-lynch. GB first though.
On November 02 2014 08:12 GlowingBear wrote: I wanted to say BH and it went HF. Probably autocorrect
ah, so this is a dscription of your annoyance that I RNGed you.
you are aware of how RNG works, right GB? Unless someone makes a good case, and I mean a good one, I vote you and lynch you D1. The OWS case is decent. I think he has a solid chance of flipping scum. But not as solid as you do, GB. RNG has fortold it. so has it been written, so shall it be done. your response to rng, and your play in the back half of this d1, have been atrocious. wherea re your responses to the OWS case? why are you opting out of the thread? your intransigence has done infinitely more to derail a legitimate conversation than anything RNG ever did. And rightfully so: you want to derail the thread. you're scum.
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Blazinghand
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So, now that I'm fully caught up, here's my cliffnotes scumreads:
GB for his awfulness and for the glory of RNG OWS for his doubt and lack of a townie mindset
If someone has something else to bring to my attention, please let me know. I'd rather lynch GB than OWS; I think the case against GB as an actve-style scum is stronger (for you people) and he definitely got RNGed (my real reason). Nonetheless, I understand the importance of a avoiding no-lynch today and will consolidate onto OWS even though he's not my toip choice.
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On November 02 2014 08:58 jrkirby wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 08:31 Blazinghand wrote:On November 02 2014 07:18 jrkirby wrote:On November 02 2014 07:13 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 07:06 jrkirby wrote:On November 02 2014 06:56 ritoky wrote:On November 02 2014 06:49 jrkirby wrote:Where the hell are BH and Misder? The longer they are gone, the scummier I feel they are. To me, damdred reads like bad town, cracking under pressure. You shouldn't care that he claims blue though, because it looks like all the reds are going to have random powers too. But overall, it doesn't read like scum, more like clueless town to me. On November 02 2014 07:18 jrkirby wrote: Show nested quote + I no longer have scum reads on slam or LT. I think HF is town, not sure about circumstance tbh. I don't think I ever said GB was scum. It's been closer to null all game for him. Could go either way with how he's playing. If BH, misder or risk get lynched I wouldn't mind. BH's back in the thread so he might change my mind. Anyone else - I need some serious convincing, but I much rather have somebody lynched than nobody lynched. what makes it a null game for GB? he's been making a lot of posts and that's convinced many people... but not you? you unvoted him earlier. can you explain why, or who your head honcho for lynching is? it seems like you're lost, and you don't know who to lynch. seems like you need something to guide you. something untouchable. something pure. something perfect. something policy. something like RNG + Show Spoiler [Crazy Theory, not important] + Although I did for a second entertain a crazy theory - GlowingBear and Damdred are scumbuddies. GB pushes the Damd lynch day one, if it flips mafia he gets an easy rest of game. He's been on Damd's case since the beginning of the game literally.
why is risk.nuke not in that list anymore? has your scum read on him evaporated? if so, why? No, I just forgot to mention him. I'd jump on risk in a second if I thought we could get majority. He's done almost absolutely nothing for town. i just glanced through your filter. it seems you have or had scum reads on: LT, slam, GB, BH, misder and risk....that's 6 mafia reads....a couple i don't really feel are explained. as for your town reads...you have 1 on circumstance for being "level-headed" early on and no real mention of anything since... so my question here is, do you care who gets lynched or do you just care about lynching someone and being in the majority like you just stated? I no longer have scum reads on slam or LT. I think HF is town, not sure about circumstance tbh. I don't think I ever said GB was scum. It's been closer to null all game for him. Could go either way with how he's playing. If BH, misder or risk get lynched I wouldn't mind. BH's back in the thread so he might change my mind. Anyone else - I need some serious convincing, but I much rather have somebody lynched than nobody lynched. what makes it a null game for GB? he's been making a lot of posts and that's convinced many people... but not you? you unvoted him earlier. can you explain why, or who your head honcho for lynching is? it seems like you're lost, and you don't know who to lynch. seems like you need something to guide you. something untouchable. something pure. something perfect. something policy. something like RNG So as I explained earlier, I only voted GB because I'd been convinced RNG was good. When I changed my mind on RNG, I changed my vote. GB is trying his hardest to get somebody lynched. Someone who he thinks is scummy. This is kinda townie. I just don't quite agree with all his reasonings. If you want me to go back to a GB vote, you'll have to convince me that GB is actually scummy. I'm just not seeing it right now. Right now, I think misder is the best lynch target. He was blue fishing, hasn't posted scumreads, and has been pretty AFK for the last day or so. If he wants to get ignored (a scummy thing), he's doing pretty well. Why wouldn't you lynch misder?
just lurking and blue fishing doesn't do it for me. blue fishing is bad but i don't see scum doing it often enough to think it's a scum thing. you've haven't told me about his mindset, just that he hasn't posted much. if you want to convince me that a policy lurker lynch is better than RNG lycnh, which has worked 50% of the time I've actually gotten people to vote the guy, you'ave got another thing coming
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Blazinghand
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dude whatever it doesn't matter, RNG IS KING. in 100% of games in the sample size of "the last game I played" it landed on scum, and he got lynched. so i don't see what your issue is. you want to policy a lurker, I want to policy rng which is a great strat
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On November 02 2014 09:15 liancourt wrote:Show nested quote +On November 02 2014 03:26 VisceraEyes wrote: Ehhhh....I think whoever is Aldor Peacekeeper is mafia. Making the lynch into a majority lynch speaks of someone trying to save whoever was up for lynch when it was plurality. :/
Anyone else getting that same vibe? Is this another herathstone reference I'm not getting? Although I understand the latter part. And can you answer my question I asked you about misder in the earlier part of the thread.
The power changed the lynch from Plurality Lynch to Majority Lynch, in addition to extending the day. In Majority Lynch, it's much harder to get a lynch, potentially saving the lynch target. This is not a heartshtone reference
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