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On July 09 2014 13:28 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 13:19 27ninjabunnies wrote: So I am around to talk. I finished watching my teen wolf episodes. So good.
Though I did just remember I have to finish my online driving safety course.
That's what I get for speeding on the interstate. Stupid cops.
Yeah let's talk about my post just now.
Which one?
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On July 09 2014 13:32 slOosh wrote:>.> Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 13:12 slOosh wrote:Ok, I dunno if it's just me or people haven't actually read iamps' read dump closely, but is this not bothering anyone? On July 09 2014 06:55 iamperfection wrote: IAmRobik I think he is town. Way to active. Way to confident. Drawing a ton of attention to himself. He has been budding me a lot which gives me slight pause but i would only worry about that if there are multiple scum factions
The possibility never even entered my mind, and storm 1 didn't have it, so it just boggles me that a town would ever think like this.
Oh. This one.
Well, it didn't really stand out in anyway to me tbh.
Like I've mentioned before, I'm reading Iap as town, while others are reading him for things that I don't necessarily find scummy.
For this certain read: would scum bring up multiple scum factions? Especially if town doesn't know? Sounds like he would be giving up a lot of information for town to use against him.
What all did storm 1 have? I never read or played in that game?
It might actually be nice to know what we're dealing with this game.
Also Iamp used the wrong version of too.
The one thing that bothers me about Iamp's read on robik is what I bolded. Why does Robik's buddying of iamp mean there are multiple scum factions? Why would he worry only then?
Why can't robik's buddying of iamp just mean he is scum?
So yeah, that's what I find weird about that post.
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On July 09 2014 13:36 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 13:19 27ninjabunnies wrote: So I am around to talk. I finished watching my teen wolf episodes. So good.
Though I did just remember I have to finish my online driving safety course.
That's what I get for speeding on the interstate. Stupid cops.
Fwiw kings county is dreck Paid my riverside ticket online Not kings, use mail, touchtone phone, or in-person
Yeah it's stupid. I forgot about it before like five minutes ago.
Got a letter saying that if I didn't send in all my paperwork saying i completed the course, I'd be arrested.
Really don't need that.
Like, I was only going 14mph over the speed limit!
hehe
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Wow, I just realized my post was a mess of thoughts.
My mind feels like I'm half focusing and then....squirrel!
Bleh.
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On July 09 2014 13:41 HaruRH wrote: Sloosh, to answer your question:
"There may be more than 2 factions in the game." - shamelessly ripped from the op
I think it is kinda alright to think about other factions in this case.
Oh yeah! You're right.
So then Iamp's thing about there being more than one scum faction isn't all that bad.
However, his read on robik buddying him and there being more than 2 factions means robik is scum thing is a bit weird.
Iamp, why?
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On July 09 2014 13:47 Alakaslam wrote:Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 13:42 27ninjabunnies wrote: Wow, I just realized my post was a mess of thoughts.
My mind feels like I'm half focusing and then....squirrel!
Bleh.
My mom has a tattoo of a squirrel.
It's her nickname. Which is weird. But not really.
She used to be a truck driver.
Slam, how you doing this game?
You seem to be way more active than what I am used to.
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uh huh, i bet you did.
So you have any reds this game, slam?
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reads*
Im too tired for this shizz
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On July 09 2014 13:56 Alakaslam wrote: Well I thought Iamp and I thought forumite but there is no cow level really. I don't know stuph
I have thrown 2¢ everywhere but now I am looking for a shepherd
Who are you more likely to be a sheep to this game?
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Robik stop rolefishing you donkey.
Catching up on the 10+ pages that I missed while asleep.
Anything interesting?
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On July 10 2014 00:56 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 00:53 27ninjabunnies wrote: Robik stop rolefishing you donkey.
Catching up on the 10+ pages that I missed while asleep.
Anything interesting? How am I rolefishing? I'm trying to save soemone i think is town (iamp) and I'm trying to get him to claim any fucking role so that he doesn't get mislynched
Meh, forcing someone to claim is not nice.
That has bad reprocussions.
Also, why are we voting Iamp?
I wonder if he ever answered my question.
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On July 10 2014 00:59 IAmRobik wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 00:57 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 10 2014 00:56 IAmRobik wrote:On July 10 2014 00:53 27ninjabunnies wrote: Robik stop rolefishing you donkey.
Catching up on the 10+ pages that I missed while asleep.
Anything interesting? How am I rolefishing? I'm trying to save soemone i think is town (iamp) and I'm trying to get him to claim any fucking role so that he doesn't get mislynched Meh, forcing someone to claim is not nice. That has bad reprocussions. Also, why are we voting Iamp? I wonder if he ever answered my question. Cause mafia want to get rid of active players so they can fucking lurk and get away with it and not do shit all game and cause people made terrible arguments for why he's scum, half of which aren't even correct, and then people sheep these bad arguments cause they're incapable of thinking for themselves, or they're mafia. Pretty much how every towny gets lynched DUHHH
Meh, I still think ritoky/forumite/ prp are better lynches today than iamp.
I still have a townread on him, but then again, I haven't read what he has done the last 10 pages I've been asleep.
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Also, I'm reading Slam's insomnia posting.
laughing my ass off.
So town.
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I probably also lynch cora. Seriously, the dude has ignored every attempt at you talking to him and questioning him.
Like wtf?!
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On July 09 2014 19:32 Koshi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 06:00 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 05:36 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 08 2014 05:32 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 05:24 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 08 2014 05:16 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 05:13 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 08 2014 05:05 yamato77 wrote:On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote: People I like Robik Toad Koshi Kush Iamperfection Batsnacks
People I don't Like Yamato ExO Damdred
People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today Vivax VE Layabout Robik Forumite Cora
Drunk Layabout
I'm caught up with the thread and will be commenting/asking questions from here on out.
Anybody in the Don't like list can be shot or lynched.
If you want reads for any of them ask me.
Also, if you want my opinion on a certain subject talked about in the last whatever pages, ask me.
Otherwise, I'm not commenting much on anything from before this post unless asked to.
Everything after this post is fair game.
Also, Turkey pot pies are the shizz. worst post all time srsly, why post these things when I'm trying to go to sleep Cause maybe you'll do something productive. Sleep is overrated On July 08 2014 05:06 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote: People I like Robik Toad Koshi Kush Iamperfection Batsnacks
People I don't Like Yamato ExO Damdred
People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today Vivax VE Layabout Robik Forumite Cora
Drunk Layabout
I'm caught up with the thread and will be commenting/asking questions from here on out.
Anybody in the Don't like list can be shot or lynched.
If you want reads for any of them ask me.
Also, if you want my opinion on a certain subject talked about in the last whatever pages, ask me.
Otherwise, I'm not commenting much on anything from before this post unless asked to.
Everything after this post is fair game.
Also, Turkey pot pies are the shizz. Oh Ho! Why don't you like me then? Actually i'm curious why you don't like us 3? On July 08 2014 03:30 Damdred wrote:On July 08 2014 03:08 Corazon wrote:On July 08 2014 02:43 Corazon wrote: Alright I'm just going to go over a few things I noted from reading through. If you guys want me to talk about another player (or expand my thoughts on one player), simply ask away.
Koshi: Koshi's just being Koshi. I've never liked the 2% of effort he puts into Mafia but I can't crucify him for that. He's actually made a few decent points trying to keep people honest about their reads. Even if I thought he was the scummiest player in the game, it wouldn't be worth it to go after him at this point.
Forumite: I can understand Forumite's meta-read on Prp. I've done the same thing with Marv just to be able to focus on other targets. His vote on Koshi seems simply misguided because he's just voting Koshi for being Koshi, something that an over-zealous townie would do. I also disagree about his point with getting a lynch done within 24 hours, but I don't see anything forced or fabricated in his explanation.
Toad: I'm slightly more concerned about Toad. His Prp vote looks absolutely terrible to me because he voted him for being "depressing" and "not optomistic" about town's chances when in all fairness, Prp is probably right about how this town is going to fare and realistic-Corazon would have to agree with Prp. It's even worse that when questioned, Toad goes into this semi-long rant about how town is just sitting on their asses and he is the only one trying and blah blah blah. While this may have been a town tell in early 2013, it just gives me the feeling that he is trying way too hard to look townie and not really being genuine when it comes to scumhunting. Yes, some of my reasoning is due to the fact that we have different views on how good town can be in TL Mafia, but my scum read on Toad isn't terribly strong and I do appreciate the fact that he is at least contributing, which cannot be said for a lot of other people.
Robik: Oh, where do I start with this fool. Has he said one important thing this entire game? All of his scum/town reads are being thrown out with little to no reasoning and his buddying of Iamp after Iamp suspected him looks very scummy to me. He's just shitting up the thread and is my #1 scum candidate right now (which doesn't mean much since a lot of people have not posted too much, but if people continue to lurk/not scream scum to me, I'd like to lynch Robik today).
Does this make me town? On a more serious note, I'm not going to say someone is 100% scum 5-6 hours into a game. That's just stupid. I refuse to tunnel someone when not all of the players have even posted. It doesn't necessarily make you town and it doesn't make you scum at this point. However your post screams hey guys i'm a townie look i'm being helpful, which is cool it just brings heat down on you and makes you look like you are trying to be seen as town. Toad seems to be playing semi-aggressive I don't know if that can be said he isn't scum hunting however at the moment anyway. Because of the above post. Idk. Seemed like a super weird thing to quote and enter the thread on. It's off to me. On July 08 2014 05:08 IAmRobik wrote:On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote: People I like Robik Toad Koshi Kush Iamperfection Batsnacks
People I don't Like Yamato ExO Damdred
People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today Vivax VE Layabout Robik Forumite Cora
Drunk Layabout
I'm caught up with the thread and will be commenting/asking questions from here on out.
Anybody in the Don't like list can be shot or lynched.
If you want reads for any of them ask me.
Also, if you want my opinion on a certain subject talked about in the last whatever pages, ask me.
Otherwise, I'm not commenting much on anything from before this post unless asked to.
Everything after this post is fair game.
Also, Turkey pot pies are the shizz. Should I be honored to be in 2 lists or are you just making up reads and putting people in random spots. What don't you like about damdred? What do you like about Kush (who hasn't read his role pm, so you can't actually have a read on him)? What do you like about batsnacks? 1. You should be honored. Not making up reads. They each have a basis, and I'll be glad to expand on any of them. 2. See above. 3. Kush is in his IDGAF mode, and I like it. Atleast for day 1. If he keeps going into his idgaf mode, I'd kill him. 4. So my read on batsnacks is more of I always read him wrong, and I actually think he is scummy this game, so I'm flipping that read. Seriously, I've read him as mafia every game we have played together. I saw something interesting that I wanted to comment on, forgive me for not entering the thread with a hi everyone i got a lot of reading to do lol. I decided to participate with something that was interesting to me someone was giving a few reads and making themselves look like a townie. I don't think this is a good reason for you to dislike me. Okay, I suppose I get that. But what about it made it so much more interesting than the rest of the posts that were posted? I don't find really anything interesting in a post that is asking "OH hey guys let me highlight all the things that I think make me town, so let me ask you, does this certain post make me town?" And your response wasn't the best. So enlighten me. Sure, my post probably wasn't the best at that point and I was trying to enter the thread and trying to be helpful. So on that note I can see how I could be perceived scum or disliked someone who had been silent up until that point enters thread and tells someone that they are trying to hard to be town. Your right it was badly put and probably a bad post, but I do think that the post reads hey guys i'm a townie. Why was his post interesting to me instead of the other myriad of posts? Well he had just responded to someone who had said he was acting scummy and then he demonstrated how his post pointed more towards him being town. Can't help what I think is interesting and what I do not. Sometimes you have to grab onto something to engage with in the thread even if you don't come off the best. And I didn't call him scum or a town just gave my opinon on his post. Okay, thank you for you response. Can I ask you a few more questions? I've never played with you, and these may help my read on you. Have you caught up on all the pages? If so, what do you think of Koshi's posting? Most people say it's trolling and baseless, and could probably put Robik in that category, too. So what do you think of both Robik's and Koshi's posting? If you have caught up with the thread, can you give me 2 people you would not lynch and 2 people you would, then one sentence explaining each. Thanks I have read all of the thread and have tried to keep up to date. Koshis posting annoyed me a little with the riddles and what not, even though I understand that he was trying to stir up some kind of activity (possibly) from his postings the town does not benefit from random posts that clutter up the thread. However I do think his early postings were trolling and his later ones did add some thought to the thread, Robik's postings have been interesting and he has interacted with the people outside of being random, his overall overreaction to being called scum is note worthy and could be a deflection but i'm not sure. If I was forced to name a few people that gave me interest at this moment I would go with Forumite, VE. I wouldn't say lynch them, Forumites read early on is a bit odd and his and VE call to get a majority lynch in the first 24 hrs or so troubles me. The more time we have to talk and to pry information from people the better rather than the less time. Even though day 1 is always odd in my opinion and you don't have much to go on its always good to gauge how people react. I probably wouldn't lynch exo at this point, or toads. Exo has a history of playing aloof and you can never tell much about him day one. And Toads well hes playing pretty out there and drawing some attention to himself, even though its possible hes mafia hes more likely to be checked playing this way and wouldn't work in his favor Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 01:47 27ninjabunnies wrote:On July 09 2014 01:40 Koshi wrote: Can somebody give me the 3 most important events that have happened in this thread. If you had to sum up the first 30 hours with 3 events. Or give me the 3 most important talking points. Yes. That. Pls. Imo: Toads cases in the beginning pages, The argument between you, prp, and Forumite. What's going on now with the wagon and spread out votes all over the place. Each of them have contributed to my read on Forumite. I think he is scummy, but he wouldn't be my lynch for today. Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 01:39 27ninjabunnies wrote:So, I'm awake now. Ten pages, really? Where were yall when I was actually awake and not asleep. (I'm gonna type things as I read along) @VE- Babycakes? Hahaha. I need a better term of endearment than that hun. So the Koshi/Prp/ Forumite conversations is super interesting. Here's what I got out of it. Koshi making cased and reads- Prp getting defensive with his whole "Omgerd, how does this make me mafia?" And Forumite with his "Omgerd, Sloosh is bad bad bad." And Koshi being like, yeah idgaf what you think. tldr; Koshi is town. I like his reasoning for sloosh being town too. Tbh, it was where my mind was at. I don't see how sloosh making a case on the already scummy Forumite is bad? Do you? The more evidence that can be used to see if a player is scum or town, the better. Forumite's defense of koshi pushing on him seemed quite a bit OMGUS and not an actual case on why he is scum. I see no basis behind it. He basically is like "Koshi is trolling. Koshi made terrible case on me. He is scum" Meh, those really aren't scum traits. I won't say Forumite is mafia, cause I'm not sure, but he is definitely on my watch list. Everything else that happened afterwards, I really don't care about. So, my lynches for today. I'd actually lynch Obiwan and Ritoky. I have a better case on Ritoky. He comes into the thread with this: On July 08 2014 04:51 ritoky wrote: howdy everybody,
i am cop
i have a red check on bunnies and three dead green checks Which to me seems super forced, and a lame joke from previous games. (Those who played in those games understand) Then he has a back and forth with me, and basically just peaces out. Nothing productive at all, except maybe this post with toad/yamato On July 08 2014 05:20 ritoky wrote:On July 08 2014 05:14 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 05:08 ritoky wrote:On July 08 2014 05:03 Toadesstern wrote:On July 08 2014 04:57 ritoky wrote:On July 08 2014 04:53 yamato77 wrote: so let me get this straight Forumite, you called prplhz town early on for ABSOLUTELY NO REASON AT ALL, made a horrible read on toad based on this complete fabrication (which you still stand by), and are supposedly doing so because you can't read prplhz and don't want to waste town's time.
..................................................................................................................... ? where did you get the no reason at all part? didn't he post earlier that in all games where he got a slight scum read early on prp that prp ended up flipping town. as a result he has decided to flip his read? so when he get slight scum -> town, when gets town -> slight scum? i think he even posted about how he got the slight scum feels too when someone questioned it. you read the thread bro? There's two ways to inrepret that sentence: 1) "why did you post it - for no reason" 2) "how did you get to that conclusion - for no reason" The 2nd one would be a lie but considering that I aksed about the first one and Forumite answered that very question I'm pretty sure that's what Yamato tried to say. Those are two completly different things. 1) so you're saying that his lack of an agenda behind his post makes him mafia on d1? Yeah I am not really buying that. If you want to call people out for posting without an agenda or posting useless stuff, your list gonna be pretty long. I don't see how him not having an agenda by calling someone town and then giving a reason why (albeit a bad reason) when asked makes him mafia. 2) you sure are really trying to throw a lot of shade based on very little. I say prplhz is mafia Forumite turns to me and tells ME "Toad, stop voting the guy, he's totally town" without explaining or trying to make me change my mind. He see's me trying to get a, supposedly, townie lynched and doesn't bother to do anything about it besides mentioning it. How is the lack of agenda in that one not a problem for you? Yo, ego-centric much? Don't have to bold and capitalize me. So what do you think? He's mafia deflecting off of mafia or mafia deflecting off of town? But even then, I don't see anything in the way of scumhunting. So ##Vote: RitokyAlso, I still have like 3 page to read, but wanted to get this out there. Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 05:04 27ninjabunnies wrote:
People I don't necessarily care for but wouldn't lynch today Vivax VE Layabout Robik Forumite Cora
Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 14:09 Corazon wrote: How hell-bent are you guys on lynching Forumite? To be honest I can't see myself voting for him. Many of his actions and statements so far (such as his meta-read on Prp and his statement that he can't read Toad objectively once Toad started attacking him) are statements/decisions that I myself would probably do as town. Thinking about it, that could explain why he's been under so much pressure...
Has he really been the scummiest player in the thread so far? Show nested quote +On July 08 2014 15:11 Corazon wrote:On July 08 2014 15:00 VisceraEyes wrote:On July 08 2014 14:09 Corazon wrote: How hell-bent are you guys on lynching Forumite? To be honest I can't see myself voting for him. Many of his actions and statements so far (such as his meta-read on Prp and his statement that he can't read Toad objectively once Toad started attacking him) are statements/decisions that I myself would probably do as town. Thinking about it, that could explain why he's been under so much pressure...
Has he really been the scummiest player in the thread so far? Why are you not considering yourself among the decision-makers in town? Why are you asking us if he's been the scummiest player? Why don't YOU tell US who the scummiest player is if you disagree that it's Forumite? Because I simply don't see the argument for lynching Forumite. I think it is a terrible lynch and I hope that it stops getting momentum. My vote is on Robik and it will stay on Robik. He's done nothing to prove that he is town; he's simply trying to feign activity and feign scumhunting. Hell, his argument for voting for you was that you were not on LoL. If you want more info on why I think he's scum, just look through my filter. He's a much better lynch than Forumite. Show nested quote +On July 09 2014 06:55 iamperfection wrote:
Forumite For someone that has gotten a lot of shit he hasn't seemed to have backed down at all. I like that he asked bill murray to vote for him that seems super townie to me like he dosnt give a shit about being voted. Plus his jumping around with votes is very attention grabbing move that scum do not like to do. My gut says he is town
You know what is also really funny. Iamp has never said "Forumite" in his posts. His reads post is the only time. He has 23 times Forumite in his filter, but it are all quotes in other people their posts except that 1 time. Our fucking town leader has said 1 time Forumite. 1 time 1 So I think we can agree that iamp/27nb/Cora/Damdred are not looking like sure town right? Maybe like 1 is scum? Maybe 2? Who knows? So either this Forumite is the sickest powerrole scum has. They instant lose if he dies. Or this Forumite is town and they don't want to be near his lynch. But why don't they all want to be on his lynch? All of them. But maybe the guy is scum and they are protecting him? I don't know. Really. I think Forumite plays pretty scummy. Maybe he is their powerrole. Like a vigi. Maybe double vigi? Like... I ask you to go to the filter of these 4 persons and look what they say about Forumite. There is almost nothing. And Forumite is the biggest thing in this thread. What is this?
So from forumites early day 1 stuff, I wouldnt lynch him for it. But then I noticed things he was talking about, and I started disliking him. I put him as scummy, and as my lynch for now over iamp. Sorry if I didn't make that clear, koshi. But if he is maf powerrole, then gg, let's get him.
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Seriously, the people going on me is ridiculous.
I put extensive reads in games with explanations, people call me mafia for it.
I try to downsize by just giving lists and you guys can ask for reads that interest you, and people call me mafia for it.
Is there no fucking pleasing you people?
And this is why I was quitting TL.
(Mid reading rant)
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Koshi, I think you are town, but I think you are highly wrong on Iamp.
I just don't see him as mafia here. People are reading him a mafia for things I just don't see, and tbh your case isn't convincing me.
I think most of the people here are just- "Ooo look, a big case. I don't have to do the work. Let's just sheep koshi and then we can lynch him tomorrow when iamp turns up town".
That's how this is going down. And I refuse to be a part of it. I'd rather lynch cora or forumite today.
Possibly one of the lurkers, but I can't seem to get yall to agree with my ritoky case.
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On July 10 2014 01:27 prplhz wrote:Show nested quote +On July 10 2014 01:25 27ninjabunnies wrote: Koshi, I think you are town, but I think you are highly wrong on Iamp.
I just don't see him as mafia here. People are reading him a mafia for things I just don't see, and tbh your case isn't convincing me.
I think most of the people here are just- "Ooo look, a big case. I don't have to do the work. Let's just sheep koshi and then we can lynch him tomorrow when iamp turns up town". [...]
who are these people because we should look into them, that sounds like a really scummy thing to say/think/do
See, I can read people's minds, and this is what the mafia are thinking.
It comes in handy in mafia games.
I can't pinpoint the voice out because I've never heard their voices before, but I know it's there.
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On July 10 2014 01:29 ObiWanShinobi wrote: nb the reason nobody is listening to your ritoky case is because the ritoky case ends up being the exact same thing people push him for every game.
it hasnt changed and its still silly, and you might be scum for thinking that its good.
So, what, we are just gonna let him lurk, say the ame shit every game, not help town, and just pass by for it just so when that he does turn out to be mafia, he can win the game?
NO FUCKING WAY.
Sorry, I refuse to let that happen.
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On July 10 2014 01:33 prplhz wrote: does anybody else think it's weird that 27nb believes most of the people on iamp are scum but she claims she cannot mention a single suspicion by name when asked?
Lol that is not what I said at all.
Learn to read buddy.
I already gave who I think are the best lynches today. And I'm working on a post with reads. If oyu want to wait around and read when they are posted, be my guest. I have about 7 more pages to read before I am completey caught up.
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