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On May 15 2014 02:30 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2014 02:14 thrawn2112 wrote:On May 15 2014 02:10 Holyflare wrote:On May 14 2014 17:40 thrawn2112 wrote: holyflare next time you're in here you need to try and convince me of your cav read why do I have to convince you? do you think i'm town or something???? my read on cav is that in the past (two or three?) games or whatever that i've played with him he's stated that he gets mislynched day 1 a lot and then got straight into scum hunting. This game he spent the entire start of the game complaining that he was going to get lynched but not drawing conclusions from it like i assumed he would have if he was town "i am town and these people are pushing a mislynch they must be pushing an agenda" should have been his thought process as town. Not to mention blueyd or w/e's reason for voting cav was because he scum claimed which was the same as my initial reason and he thought that was a joke so really no pressure should have been on him at all really then there's the fact that he had no reads apart from me being town which after last game i would never ever ever expect so quickly from him, he gave reasons for it but those reasons didn't make sense because half of his reasoning was from something i did at lylo and this was the very very very start of day 1, the rest of his reasons were because i was joking around and buddying which is what i do in pretty much most of my games the thing about cav is that he will continue to wallow in self pity about being lynched for however long he's in the spotlight. last game nobody gave a fuck about him for most of D1, in fact most people town read him. so that allowed him to scumhunt. but now he's been in the spolight all game so he's been defensive for most of the game. i';ve never seen him not get defensive about being lynched D1 so it does not worry me when he gets defensive about it, no matter long he continues to be so defensive. saying he has no reads is absolutely false and you need to reevaluate that part of your read. no, in glory he was under the same pressure but he defended himself but also pointed out inconsistencies. This game at the start he shouldn't have been under pressure because one of the votes was a joke vote but his only read was me! he then came out with logic for more reads based on a lot of information he had when he said he had no reads
I don't think I was voted a single time in Glory.
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On May 15 2014 03:29 kushm4sta wrote: orange is thread views per minute. blue is post count. Only thing the graph is telling me is that there hasn't been significant lurking.
Wait.
So do you know if Judge has been looking at the thread or not?
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Alright, we need to get some more shit going.
On May 15 2014 02:10 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +On May 14 2014 17:40 thrawn2112 wrote: holyflare next time you're in here you need to try and convince me of your cav read why do I have to convince you? do you think i'm town or something???? my read on cav is that in the past (two or three?) games or whatever that i've played with him he's stated that he gets mislynched day 1 a lot and then got straight into scum hunting. This game he spent the entire start of the game complaining that he was going to get lynched but not drawing conclusions from it like i assumed he would have if he was town "i am town and these people are pushing a mislynch they must be pushing an agenda" should have been his thought process as town. Not to mention blueyd or w/e's reason for voting cav was because he scum claimed which was the same as my initial reason and he thought that was a joke so really no pressure should have been on him at all really then there's the fact that he had no reads apart from me being town which after last game i would never ever ever expect so quickly from him, he gave reasons for it but those reasons didn't make sense because half of his reasoning was from something i did at lylo and this was the very very very start of day 1, the rest of his reasons were because i was joking around and buddying which is what i do in pretty much most of my games
There are several issues I have with your line of thinking.
A) The issue isn't that you buddy people or not. It's that buddying becomes a part of the agenda you push throughout the game if you're scum, and which you have no compunction to do so if you're town. I have yet to see you buddy anyone this game. You've done some funny shit, but it was clearly posted for the sake of being funny rather than trying to pocket people's votes later on.
Case in point, your giant posts and almost everything after the opening have been geared towards finding scum and nothing else.
B) I already offered to give you more quotes, but you just turned around and said, "yeah these quotes suck." Wtf?
C) I am pushing Judge as my lynch of choice. Why can you not see this? Obviously there aren't 4 mafia in this game, so some of those votes have to be town at the very least.
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On May 14 2014 19:44 Dicksmash McIroncock wrote: Though I will say I think its a good possibility that judge is mafia jumping on the wagon
Serious question: do you believe that Judge and I are both scum? Why? What makes you think that Judge would so willingly bus me on day 1 with such poor reasoning? Do you think mafia killing one of their own on day 1 is a good strategy?
I was under the impression that it would be hard to see Judge and me as a team, but maybe I'm biased.
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On May 15 2014 03:52 Holyflare wrote: well really it's just the meta thing in that case, it's super weird and i wouldn't expect that from anyone so early
This is the only part of your case that I can understand from a logical perspective.
I still think my read on you is solid and I probably won't change it any time soon.
Here, let's change the subject a bit: if I wasn't a viable lynch, who else would you lynch? What other scumreads do you have at this time?
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You just said he was lurky as town.
Why is he scummy now?
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fuck someone help i am being bussed
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On May 15 2014 04:36 vx70GTOJudgexv wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2014 04:30 Holyflare wrote:Learn to read my posts. It wasn't just "oh he's being defensive." People do that all the time. It's that he hasn't done a damned thing other than be defensive all game. The "has not done a damn thing" line was equally important in that post. You know, the six words preceding "besides being defensive." I'm confident in that as a fairly good alignment indicator. Meta is pretty bad mkay. I don't question unless I feel the need to. I don't think I need to.
I think he's done a lot more than nothing since you made that post but you haven't said anything about that at all. If being defensive is not really alignment indicative and activity is then your read surely should have changed on cav to not scummy because he's saying things. No, I've read them, and I've found zero honest attempts to, y'know, find scum.
I guess voting you doesn't count, just gonna overlook that instead of defending yourself.
Ok.
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Vivax might be a good lynch...Maybe. He's sorta nullish.
I actually don't like fuba at all and I think he could/should be lynched as well. I still don't like his opening at all. Kush actually has a point by saying that he hasn't done anything because I kinda forgot about him up until he brought that up.
I disagree on his points about Blue though. I still have Blue as town.
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I think Vivax's only problem right now is that he has like 3 posts so far.
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That doesn't really help me much, you know. Who would you rather lynch now? Every single player in the game has to be your townread except maybe Vivax...
And I'm not sure I want to lynch Vivax.
I think, if we don't kill Judge, we lynch fuba or DS. I don't really want kush at all, if I ever really did in the first place.
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So...You don't think I'm town.
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Like I'm being voted over people that aren't even doing anything, and everyone seems totally okay with that.
Doesn't anyone have an issue with this lynch? Because they really, really should.
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DS is there even a particular reason you think I'm scum?
Go back and answer my question.
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On May 15 2014 06:39 kushm4sta wrote: town and town
How is it that both lynches are town to you and you don't do anything to fix that?
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##Unvote ##Vote: fuba
I'm also gonna warn you guys (again) that I won't be around for the flips.
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I seriously doubt that he is at this point.
He's far and away more proactive and his filter generally looks like you're staring directly into the sun when he's scum.
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DS, get your vote off of me now pls.
I'm not going to be around for the flips so I'd rather not have to worry about you while I'm gone. If you townread me, at the very least unvote so I don't have to worry about getting lynched anymore.
Seriously, who throws down placeholder votes? Wtf?
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On May 15 2014 07:12 Holyflare wrote:Show nested quote +My initial read of DS was based on the fact that he reminds me of the people that I used to play with in those newbie games. I don't like him because I think he's an idiot and refuses to base his reads on actual things, but he's still most likely town. Show nested quote +On May 15 2014 06:05 Cavalinho wrote: That doesn't really help me much, you know. Who would you rather lynch now? Every single player in the game has to be your townread except maybe Vivax...
And I'm not sure I want to lynch Vivax.
I think, if we don't kill Judge, we lynch fuba or DS. I don't really want kush at all, if I ever really did in the first place. Explain how this read changed
My read didn't change.
I either want him to unvote me and start basing his reads off of real shit or I want him to die.
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