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On April 16 2014 02:34 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 01:38 Koshi wrote: You must have missed his pretty hard "I played 1 game and caught all scum" post then.
The irky feeling was the soft newbie claim? I noticed, why else would it bother me that he starts going back to being so inexperienced when it suits him? you contradict yourself with those two sentences if you are getting on my case about being irked by the soft newbie claim. If you are asking just for clarification though then yes, to repeat myself for you it does. I filtered myself and looked at every single post of mine and I don't see where I "go back to being so inexperienced when it suits me".
On April 12 2014 21:10 Djagulingu wrote: EBWOP: OMG I have to remember not to edit. This post comes the closest and it was a considerable time before role pms were distributed. Can you please explain how you got that impression?
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EBWOP: Oh, now we're talking about my non-existing scum meta. Let me tell you something: We're talking about it just because you and me are the only people to have posted our town and scum metas. You might be playing closer to your town meta than your scum meta, you seem to be contributing to the town folk and stuff but the fact that you're doing nothing but tunnel-visioning on me makes me think of 2 possibilities:
1- You're an inexperienced townie (yes, even more inexperienced than me) and you don't notice the amount of people lurking and not contributing 2- You're a good scumbag who loves to keep the attention on a single person so that your scum friends go under the radar.
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By the way Koshi, speaking of self-assessment of own metas, how can you define your town and scum metas?
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On April 16 2014 03:43 kushm4sta wrote: that's a bad question Why is it?
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On April 16 2014 04:19 OmniEulogy wrote:Show nested quote +On April 16 2014 04:02 kushm4sta wrote: can you summarize that post because im having trouble understanding it Koshi's nickname could be Joe Biden so far this game and Djag dodged a valid question by OTW by telling him to go read a book. I tried for ya kush lol I didn't dodge a valid question.
On April 15 2014 22:38 Djagulingu wrote:Show nested quote +On April 15 2014 21:42 OneThousandWords wrote:Djagulingu, you describe your town play as: My town play is really stalk heavy. I watch all of you. All of you, when you post, when you sleep, when you work, when you eat. I might come out of nowhere with random people to lynch for random reasons. They did come out true though.
I would define my town play as systematic instead of impulsive, I don't care about collateral damage, sharp and decisive over overly cautious.
In this game you have already called 2 people scum for supposed scum slips. Am I to assume that you have now 180° on your own meta so quickly? This doesn't look very systematic to me, it looks like the complete opposite. You jump on people and call them scum without much basis and state that you are helping the town by making a pro-town atmosphere of sophisticated discussion when, instead, you are steering people in a very specific direction on a point of view that seems entirely skewed on pushing an agenda. You would understand if you have read Hunter Book: Wayward. But I like your sharpness. You're like Peleus in that book. This is how God45 defines Peleus: Show nested quote +And so I found him. The prodigal problem child. Alleyman. Peleus.
The sniper was a little resitant to my ideas. That's understandable. I was actually pleased that he didn't take to them so quickly. Enlightenment shouldn't come immediately. It took me a long time to discover the truth. We can't all be Paul on the road to Damascus.
He had the methods down. He's messy and he leaves too much of himself behind, but he's efficient. His numbers are great. And I appreciate his attitude toward others of our kind. He won't tolerate their whiny, backstabbing bullshit. Their opinions are threefold- they can help, they can get out of the way or they try to find their way out of a body bag. He doesn't know the words for it yet, but somewhere in there he knows that if you're not curing the cancer, you are the cancer. There's no in between. I said that I see him as a townie here and then:
On April 16 2014 00:30 Djagulingu wrote: EBWOP: As I have never played a single game as a scum, I can't define my scum play. I would probably just play survival until having enough numbers. To explain this in one word: Masquerade.
Talking about my own self-meta: I'm still as systematic, calm and careful as I described. I just didn't describe my "system". You might not think that I'm as systematic as I told, but I think I'm calm and careful, just as I described.
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On April 16 2014 14:26 ObviousOne wrote: Djag, what's up with throwing the words scum slip around and being 100% sure? How can you be 100% sure of anything on day 1? It's cool that you want to boast your success in the past, but I'm not seeing the part where you successfully lure people into discussion with anything but your own tactics (aka discussing yourself). The easiest way to create a shitstorm in the thread is doing stupid shit and waiting for people to react. Then scumbags start farming that shitstorm and you got your scumbags.
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EBWOP: I was intentionally trying to do shitty shit. That was what's up.
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On April 16 2014 15:52 thrawn2112 wrote: lets lynch mderg Do you have a reason for lynching mderg? Or is it just a random lynch idea that you came up with? If it is the latter, I suggest lynching Cavalinho.
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Cavalinho is just as random as mderg. What do you say?
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We want to lynch a 20% scum instead of a 80% one?
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EBWOP: mderg looks as scummy to me, no scumreads, 12 game hours and he has only posted once.
My guess of your reason is: "He might be scum or town or whatever. His presence benefits scum more than town".
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On April 16 2014 16:20 thrawn2112 wrote: No. He made a huge post that doesn't contribute anything. He didn't say a single thing that is relevant to the lynch. It's even worse than no scumreads, there are no reads of any kind. He argued his points without giving any indication that he was forming reads based off of the things he was arguing against.
You say he's banking on the fact that such long posts with no content can help you stay under the radar for some time?
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On April 16 2014 16:27 thrawn2112 wrote: and people who aren't trying to solve the game usually aren't townies Indeed. If you don't cure the cancer, you ARE the cancer.
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On April 16 2014 16:31 thrawn2112 wrote: sooo... what are you saying? that you agree? Cavalinho was higher priority, but mderg was definitely up there.
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On April 16 2014 17:16 thrawn2112 wrote: Now I'm confused.
I thought you wanted to lynch omni? And am I interpreting your above post correctly, that you think cav is a better lynch than mderg? Why are you so willing to swtich when you have stronger scum reads? Even when I was hard pressuring omni, he was not on a higher priority than anybody that wasn't contributing to the thread. My initial plan was to use someone as a bait, make him the focus of the thread and lynch one of the lurkers. Omni is actually at #4 after cavalinho, mderg and alakaslam.
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EBWOP: I can settle with lynching mderg because
1- He's still on my #2. 2- Lynching my #2 is better than a no lynch. 3- As this is a plurality lynch game, I'll vote for whoever gets highest amount of votes between mderg and cavalinho.
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EBWOP: "Even if this is not a majority lynch game," instead of "As this is a plurality lynch game,"
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Kush looks town to me. At least more town than scum.
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I'm going to sleep. Won't be back before day 1 ends.
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Cavalinho screamed scum all game long and yet we didn't lynch him. Vivax though, I have no idea. When he was alakaslam, he was screaming scum, Vivax plays so-so. For another, I would go ezpz on OmniEulogy, but:
This makes me suspicious. OE definitely looked more scummy than Koshi/kush/skan/OO/mderg/OTW.
I say: Vivax is town. He really is. Thrawn and OE playing on Vivax while cavalinho is defending, they are trying to make it look like Vivax is cavalinho's teammate as scum. This is a 9-3 town to scum situation, with FT gone, it is now 8-3, let's say it's 7-3 with the lynch. Imo if we lynch Vivax next, we go into 5-3 LYLO. I say we Vigishot OE and RB thrawn. Then we lynch cavalinho (he will probably end up standard red with no qualities).
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