On November 16 2013 10:07 austinmcc wrote: Slam, if you throw out all the rayn/HF stuff from today, what are the two or three things you find most interesting from today?
Scummy, townie, things that make you draw connections, whatever two or three things really caught your eye and influenced a read.
On this same page, I answered by talking about Blazinghand running for RNG to kill vayneauthority. This made me go
:D -_- ?:/
As I went from "oh BH has an interesting lynch idea that is a little scummy but not as much on d1 and he is actually here!" To "Wow lynch vayneauthority, dude he didn't read thread or is scum this sucks" to "Well glad he clarified that, what is vayneauthority doing?" "Wow VA may even make it useful as is"
It's amazing how many pages two players duking it out creates.
PLEASE FOR THE LOVE OF CAREERS LIMIT ATTACKS AND DEFENSES TO 3 POSTS OR SPOILER YOUR CONFRONTATIONS. THEY REALLY MEAN NOTHING UNTIL WE FEEL LIKE CHECKING IT OUT. FILTER FILTER FILTER! ENOUGH BS INTIMIDATING LAZY TOWN, THIS IS A BIG GAME DONT BE SELFISH SOB OR @SCUM, HAHA I TROLL U BACK STFU NOW
I do this because almost page 100 day one
Here is an example for all the hotheads, press quote and read to see the formatting:
On November 16 2013 10:44 Pandain wrote: On November 16 2013 10:41 VisceraEyes wrote:
On November 16 2013 10:39 Pandain wrote: I think LoneMeow is pretty town, I give him town points(though not defiinitive), for masoning Yamato. Masononing a vet seems like a town thing to do, and he could crumble under pressure against someone as aggressive as yamato
This assumes Yamato is applying any pressure to him in mason. Yamato isn't doing much in the thread at the moment, I have to assume he's not doing much in a mason chat either.
It doesn't matter. The fact he masoned Yamato and the oppurtunity is there either means he doesn't know yamato, he's really confident in himself(anyone have confirmation on this? Wasn't he the guy who claimed doctor and then Mocsta counter-claimed him?), or he's town.
Which do you think is more likely for a person who has played previous games?
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Besides at VE, what says his inactivity here isn't just mason ing it up? It's not indicative of anything when you see inactivity.
Well I will say ONEGU is the very first SVENGALI so I will not read him as of yet.
Now no more assery. I am interested, does anyone have any interest in the Blazinghand proposal for mayor, coupled with VayneAuthority's response? I have listed my thoughts and I am not sure whether I think either is scum.
On November 16 2013 11:29 StorrZerg wrote: Now lets take a better look at mattchew
I understand mattchew plays the game, by finding town and adding more town to his circle. And by that process he finds scum since they are not in his circle.
How ever i am not so keen on him throwing town reads with no reason. (as he first starts out throwing one on VE)
On November 15 2013 12:47 Mattchew wrote: Yam and mocsta are town but i dont agree with Mocsta's case on Storr. I saw his conclusion, read storrs filter for myself, then read his case, and reconsidered but was not swayed into putting storr anywhere but neutral. Storr is going to play different, because he comes from a different type of mafia. Mocsta sometimes equivocates different to scum
again Yam, random town read no real reason. I can "assume" he is getting a town read from mocsta because he believes mocsta is scum hunting. I shouldn't assume however.. I'd prefer matt to explain in a few more words why he feels this way. He seems a bit better with how he read the situation. (since i came to a similar conclusion mocsta town, im town)
He changes his read on Alakaslam because of Alakaslam post responding to yamato. again, where are the reasons?
On November 16 2013 09:33 Mattchew wrote: BC can be lynched and im ok with that, same with koshi
Not to sure why he is ok with these people, personally i am fine with a BC lynch since i feel he has not been looking for scum, just low hanging fruit.
In the end, i have not found mattchew to have done anything yet in this game. His reads have had no reasoning what so ever save for 1 comment defending myself. I am putting him my scum circle for now.
His lack of reasoning is not particularly indicative of alignment to me. He could easily be unable to articulate his gut.
However I have zero meta on him, or all practical purposes I have never seen him before.
I haven't had any serious reservations toward BloodyC0bbler yet. But I have had reservations, because I am still having reservations about every vet because of Piperism.
On November 16 2013 11:51 Alakaslam wrote: I haven't had any serious reservations toward BloodyC0bbler yet. But I have had reservations, because I am still having reservations about every vet because of Piperism.
Dude that's just not how the game is played. Experienced players don't just magically get followers...not since Palmar was crowned King of the Noobs has a player been just innately able to garner blind followers, and Palmar hasn't played a serious game of mafia in like years it feels like.
Now I am curious- nothing more, I'm not insinuating anything- Why are we talking about who is scum when we still have to pick a mayor? I would think we would continue townhunting, but someone discredited that line of thinking and I can't remember where.
I would think my Vote for VisceraEyes will get some fire going however. There's townhunting, and I mean, it's a strong read huh?
On November 16 2013 11:51 Alakaslam wrote: I haven't had any serious reservations toward BloodyC0bbler yet. But I have had reservations, because I am still having reservations about every vet because of Piperism.
Dude that's just not how the game is played. Experienced players don't just magically get followers...not since Palmar was crowned King of the Noobs has a player been just innately able to garner blind followers, and Palmar hasn't played a serious game of mafia in like years it feels like.
I don't believe you.
Well when you reach the promised land and find the holy grail you just let me know so I can come have a sip m'kaay?
My alternative is Blazinghand. He has not given me sufficient reason to vote him however.
BloodlyC0bbler is someone I have zero meta on, as is SuperSoft, who I would otherwise be voting now. He cannot get my vote due to my reservations. However, he will have this semi-endorsement.
On November 16 2013 12:19 Alakaslam wrote: My alternative is Blazinghand. He has not given me sufficient reason to vote him however.
BloodlyC0bbler is someone I have zero meta on, as is SuperSoft, who I would otherwise be voting now. They cannot get my vote due to my reservations. However, he will have this semi-endorsement.
On November 16 2013 12:19 Alakaslam wrote: My alternative is Blazinghand. He has not given me sufficient reason to vote him however.
BloodlyC0bbler is someone I have zero meta on, as is SuperSoft, who I would otherwise be voting now. He cannot get my vote due to my reservations. However, he will have this semi-endorsement.
Even if BH HAD given you reason to vote him, by your own logic you couldn't because of reservations about Piperism (which, by the way, is laughable coming from you SPECIFICALLY BECAUSE of your BH fervor.)
Just vote for me Alak, I promise I won't lynch you. Pinky swear.
On November 16 2013 08:59 Blazinghand wrote: PS I am now beginning to read the thread, but will also be checking here at the end of the thread if anyone has questions or concerns
you really should have read the thread before tossing out that campaign post. Just saying
Given that my campaign is RNG, unless someone has somehow died between the day start and now, I don't see how it's necessary for me to have read the thread. If it turns out i come up with some amazing scumread i'll just change the platform
Redeemed. You will.
You are so vulnerable to Svengali by hugging this man's nuts constantly.
Blazinghand
All must recognize his greatness
Seriously though. I actually haven't stated anything about my thoughts on his alignment, only my expectations of him.
So far, so meh. I am trying to keep up but when my workday is split in two four hour shifts separated by six hours I get confusticated.
Trying to be coherent at 1:40 am is tough! I may just stop trying, and get some sleep. But I fear I will fall behind further...
Be succinct plz and thanks for being succinct those who have been. If it takes a lot to say what needs to be said say it, don't get me wrong.
On November 16 2013 18:24 Spaghetticus wrote: If you're all going to ignore me, I assume I'm doing something wrong. Can you at least tell me why I'm being ignored so I can go about fixing it?
On November 16 2013 03:50 Spaghetticus wrote: I’m comfortable with confirming Yamato town. This may seem redundant since that’s the general consensus, but I’m very stringent so this is actually a pretty big step.
On my next readthrough I’ll be fine tooth combing for Mocsta and VE. I’ve got precious history with Mocsta, but he’s also quite active. I want to confirm him town if possible. VE seems like the next most obvious, given the amount of material he has provided. I don’t like some of VE’s towncalls, but I think they’ve already been covered by others.
LoneMeow masoning incident: I find this unsuspicious. I’m probably more interested in those who tried to force this to be an issue.
Artanis and SS: SS seems dense. The projected paradigm within which he claims to view the world where everyone’s decision making is based entirely on the single factor of whether or not victory is achieved, is silly.
Does he seriously expect people to sit through a month of his needless abuse in order to slightly increase their chances of winning a prizeless endeavour?
Does he seriously think that by espousing his (so far generally unimpressive) logic to the exclusion of compromise in the pursuit of cooperation, he will achieve his intended position of mayor?
I understand that some people have difficulty getting along with others, but it seems to me a cover. I’d like to hear people’s thoughts on his meta. For someone who proclaims his own competency as a vet at the beginning of the thread, this incompetency is not consistent from my (admittedly limited) perspective. It could very easily be used to obscure scummy motives.
Admittedly, there have also been town tells. I've mixed feelings here.
Grack: The trolling seems a poor move. BC is hammering him, and IMO rightly so. Grack has fluffed, and Grack has not done much else. I can only think that: - Grack does not care (useless town) - Grack is in some way trying to modify his meta (unlikely) - Grack is trying to scumbait (somewhat more likely) - Grack is scum (most likely) The Kush4prez line was possibly scumbait, but honestly I don’t see how a town Grack was planning on taking that bait (if successful) and then convincing town of his plan post hoc. The inevitable arse biting his actions have reaped was entirely foreseeable. It’s difficult to see him as town, as his actions have caused little but discord.
Yamato lynching BC: I’m not sure, but did I miss the case? I see BC as good, I don’t want him to be scum. I’m not sure why that makes us need to lynch him without further information, as so far he’s been valuable. Unless I’m missing something, Mocsta was right to demand more reasoning for yamato’s platform based on BC. That said, Mocsta’s reasoning about cost/benefit for lynching BC confused me. If it’s what I think it is, it’s suspiciously dull.
Sharrant: I’m not entirely certain how this became a thing, I’ll look into it in my next read. There didn't seem enough information at the time to make reads, that it was mentioned so many times sort of makes me think of artificial intervention.
Kushmasta: His propensity for unpredictable play makes him unsuitable for mayor. Everyone knows this, though I think some take it too far. Policy lynching him seems both poor play and in poor taste. Using him as a vehicle for lynchbait/trolling is also pretty shit. I think people attempting to bring Kush into the spotlight are hard pressed to provide a believable town motive. Other than that, there are a lot of people that are sliding around on my scale, but also a lot of undercommitment in posts. If you have a read, please don’t just state your conclusion, as it only begs the question, and junks up the thread with people demanding that you elaborate. You may feel like you’re getting straight to the point #lessismore #quietconfidence but the end result is a less cohesive discussion, and a less effective town.
Probably a length issue, I appreciate the spoiler. I will come back to this
On November 16 2013 19:26 Blazinghand wrote: its because the theatrical release
1) ruined the MD Device 2) ruined petra 3) ruined command school 3 again) ruined ender randomly murdering people 4) ruined everything
Thank you for this, you saved me $12
Spaghetticus, I generally agree with you but on SuperSoft I saw little reason to be so bothered by his snark. Which is just personal preference and unimportant.