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I will also vote nyx because my bad feeling about them has not changed since my vote on day 1. I dont have anyone else that I consider not town this strongly, but if that changes Im open to change the vote. I realize this might give additional support to the Balla-e00E connection but I dont think I should not vote for my anti-town read just because it might put suspicion on me. I still think that if we are very sure about a different mafia and think nyx is the SK we should lynch the Mafia first.
##vote: nyxnyxnyx
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@Balla I just put my vote on the person im most certain and your post reminded me of voting. I dont think its a bandwagon if you have this much time left to change the votes. On the first day I actually voted on Nyx before you (being the second person after Vonthin) and you then said you agreed with me. Isnt it strange you would get that wrong?
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On day 1 Balla defended my posts and put suspicion on playerboy and nyx. Then on day two after seeing that playerboy was a cop Balla immediately changes their opinion on my day 1 post and is aggressive towards me. Could it be that Balla every day tried to find a weak town lynch target being Mafia themself? Disagreeing with playerboy was easy because he appeared to be flaming and voting for nyx did not require much justification either. Now on day2 it looks like nyx is going to get killed anyway so you switch to the next weakest player (thinking they cant defend themself) me. After seeing that I actually try to defend myself contrary to nyx you switch again.
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@onlywonderboy When I read your posts it does look like you agree a lot with other people and dont bring much of your own. Seuss might have thought better of your posts because in general we like to think positive of people who have the same opinion as our self.
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Could you explain why you are voting for me? On day 1 it looked like you just voted Vonthin because they voted you, are you doing the same here?
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@Seuss Could you reiterate again why you think im Mafia? I would like to know the accusation so I can defend myself.
There were a few players that said they didnt think I was the cop and other players pointed out that Mafia could have thought playerboy was the cop. I dont think it really is evidence against me that I was not roleblocked? Would you like to know if i am vanilla town or a role? If that is a bad question to answer just say so!
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Sleeping time is approaching for me (~1.5 hours) and I dont want to be lynched after that because I could not defend myself against new accusations. If im not lynched today we can go over me again it tomorrow. I really dont think you should lynch me over nyx. I was called town many times earlier and nyx as SK seemed like a popular idea on day2 and nyx was nearly lynched day 1 and did not even try to make sense today. Even if you have suspicion on me now it really does not make sense to change who you want to lynch so drastically.
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@GGTemplar You're line of reasoning has me as the most probable mafia read along side Balla. You call me a strong mafia read by the process of elimination but is it really so strong? Even if i am the most probable mafia the actual probability could be low. You even had me as a light town read on day 1. So this is solely based on day 2. Contrary to that you are very very convinced of nyx making nyx a more secure kill.
What is the information you would get out of my death? What will change for you if come out as town or mafia?
I dislike that my defense so far is more about other people than me, maybe I can think of more.
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On October 19 2013 06:08 GGTeMpLaR wrote:Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 00:36 Balla24 wrote: and wtf man... get off my back... this is the second time you've voted directly after me directly like me with very little other information.
I only wanted to use my vote as a pressure vote and you trying to start a train like this makes it hard. This looks so forced as a bus. I am more and more sure of the E00e/onlywonderboy/Balla24 circle every day. I am trying to take a step back to make sure I'm not tunnel visioning on this theory so I can be right, but I can't help noticing these connections. Hopefully they are not inspired by my confirmation bias. Show nested quote +On October 19 2013 00:39 onlywonderboy wrote: I'm pretty suspicious of SagaZ at this point. He very well have been busy, but coming back to make one impassioned post doesn't clear him in my eyes. I'm interested to see if he's able to participate in any of the conversations going on around lynching time. That's generally where a lot of useful information comes out. Although it seems we are going pretty much all in on nyx at this point. Which, I don't have an issue voting for nyx (I think he's kind of scummy), but I don't want to start the bandwagon too early when new information may come to light. And of course I disagree with SagaZ's analysis of me. I find it so weird he can say all my posts have been useless when Seuss is claiming they are pretty good, just not a lot of them. I find it interesting they can have such different opinions on my posts. More intra-circle busing going around? Maybe, maybe not. Just note these interactions between onlywonderboy-E00e-Balla24. . . . Why does this look "forced as a bus" ? I debunked Ballas claim that I voted after him day 1 too, and what would the purpose for mafia be in having this exchange? I dont take part in the second quote but you have it as an example for my circle.
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And why am I even in a circle with onlywonderboy? Do we have any kind of suspicious interaction?
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I am still around if you need my vote for anything that you can convince me of.
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There are 10 people alive. 3 Mafia 1 SK 6 Town
If the SK is lynched correctly and Mafia kills a town at night and there are no saves the town will have to lynch correctly every day: Day 3 starts with: 5 town - 3 mafia 4: 4 - 2 5: 3 - 1
If the same happens but July as town gets modkilled the town ALSO has to lynch correctly. Day3 starts with: 4 town - 3 mafia 4: 3 - 2 5: 2 - 1
If there are no medic saves, the two situations are the same.
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Wow that sucks, but you are somewhat at fault yourself nyx. I am sorry Bereft, it was not my intention to look cop. Please post the quotes so I know what caused it. Seuss if you think you and Bereft will die, shouldnt Bereft post his role and what they did every night?
I will be afk for the next ~8 hours.
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GGTemplar had Odin (confirmed town later),Bereft as a strong town read which makes me think Bereft is not Mafia. Templar also said there are 1 or 2 mafia in the Vonthin voters which makes me think there is at most 1 mafia there preferably 0. Templar tried to kill me day2 and put me in circles with various other people. I like to think that in those circles there was a Mafia so that when I am lynched day2 and turn out town the other people in that circle are thought of as town.
I think July is the 2nd mafia. I got that feeling from reading July's and GGTemplar's posts and I cant deliver strong evidence right now. Maybe someone else can confirm/deny.
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I had you (SagaZ) or Balla as 3rd Mafia but im less sure about that.
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@SagaZ Actually I tried get town to be less inactive b y posting something that is discussable. To make my post less pushy I did not put my vote yet to show that I wanted to talk about this. Everything in your post you could have said before I told you who I thought was the 3rd Mafia, why did you not post it earlier?
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Also it there really does not have to be HEAVY Mafia on Mafa action (yummy) going on. For example you SagaZ voted for July once with the reason that their posts had nothing worthwhile and you were the only one voting for them. After a few posts you switched your vote. I dont think this qualifies as throwing fellow mafia under the bus and it was not a dangerous vote either and I dont want something like this remove the possibility of you being mafia.
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Dont you think you can get more information about who is Mafia from GGTemplar, Bereft?
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Im still around but I will go to sleep soon. Mitt shine in on July Mafia, Balla Mafia and onlywonderboy as SK please.
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##Vote: July617 I will stick to that vote if nothing changes my mind in the next ~hour.
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