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On October 09 2013 01:08 Holyflare wrote: You may have the traits of a towny but there is always that lingering suspicious nature about you. You were SO SURE about sloosh that when people (oats, risen, dirk etc.) were doing extra scum hunting that you thought it was funny and wouldn't participate. You effectively did not participate in an entire day because you "thought the game was solved". Here we are day 3, and the same scenario is coming down. The only reason that oats could be killed was to add further speculation about dirkzor making a desperation move, pretty simple play to make if you think about it coming from you it lets you sit back for an entire day again and not have to do anything but vote for dirkzor. This means that you don't have to do even more extra scum hunting compared to if you left oats alive. Oats was looking for scum, even through the trolling, he was pretty much the only one looking. Now, you can conveniently eliminate another day and as you've painted risen as your next target I presume he will be your choice for the day after. Everytime someone so much as mentions the word marv and scum in a sentence you flip out about how you are "the most town, and have progressed us through most of the game". Now, I'm not saying you are scum, I'm not saying you aren't. Of course I will filter dive you and see whether these feels are baseless or not. This is just a theory after all. Thank you. And btw Marv didn't progress anything. Bh did the rayn thing. I did sloosh (wrongly) - which you sheeped. At day 1 lynch marv didn't push anyone towards lynch time and he never committed much to anything. | ||
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On October 09 2013 01:33 marvellosity wrote: it's not scummy for me to say i'm town and to call other people bad though. Sort of, yes. But its also fucking annoying. | ||
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On October 05 2013 03:31 Blazinghand wrote: Well, there's two answers I can see. 1) town marv: Marv is very prideful and legitimately thinks sloosh is scum. He wants to come out of this with a big e-peen and say he didn't get mislynched. I can see this for sure. He might also just want this game to be over more quickly, but honestly it would be over for him D2 either way (town wins and sloosh burns, or marv is dead) 2) scum marv: Despite what he says, this "i'm okay with dying D3, just quote this and vote me" thing actually looks pretty townie. You know when you read marv's posts you start to think he's town, and maybe he's gonna play it up so hard people dont' want to vote him by D3. 120 hours of helpful and friendly marv who's ready to die for the town could convince people he's not a good lynch. Honestly, scum marv in this position doesn't have a lot of plays, but this one would work. On October 05 2013 03:46 Blazinghand wrote: Okay so I've gotta run now. My final opinions are this, in order of importance. : 0) Judge people based on what they did and said BEFORE Rayn got lynched. What they said after is less likely to be alignment indicative. This is really important 1) most importantly, do not lynch risen, hf, or clarity. risen and hf chose not to swap to avert a no-lynch, staying on rayn. clarity hammered rayn and averted a no-lynch. 2) lynch marv, sloosh, oats, probably in that order. consider swapping out oats for dirk. If you want to lynch sloosh first since you think he's the scummiest, that's fine, but don't let marv weasel his way out of a lynch. 3) think for yourselves and adjust to incoming information. Everyone should participate. Don't get mad at each other, don't insult each other, don't even insult Marv, whatever he does. Play nice and stick to the plan. lynch scum. gg everyone Just saying... | ||
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On October 09 2013 01:40 marvellosity wrote: like, it's so easy to call people bad when you know you're right, and it's much harder to do it for a sustained period when you know you're wrong and they're right :/ Well you voting me is a known wrong for me... so where does that leaves us? | ||
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You claim you pushed my lynch, but you never really. You made a few questions and people followed you. You then proceed to back of because of my answer. Same with oats. You then ended up sheeping to first Sloosh and then Risen. No marks left on D1. Good job scum marv. | ||
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Then he ask a lot of question. He argues with sloosh about me here: link but only after sloosh brings it up. This entire argument with sloosh he is disagreeing saying sloosh is wrong. Clarity (and here is where he does differently then marv) follows up on his vote on me with this: link. Marv's follow up on me: On October 03 2013 17:40 marvellosity wrote: then vote for one of them why is this complicated? On October 03 2013 18:27 marvellosity wrote: + Show Spoiler + Anyways. Things I like: - BH in general, his long post, what he said about rayn. Generally agree - slOosh thinking and talking about a lot of the game - Dirzkor pointing out slOosh's weird Clarity shift - my toned, athletic body Things I dislike: - Holyflare's absence after a busy start - Risen's afk from the thread after making his case, refusing to discuss it with anyone, despite the fact he was around to post in Noir obsQT last night. Terrible. - slOosh's weird stance on Clarity - rayn being a non-entity - Oats not really have his own suspicions ##unvote Thing with Dirk is. Maybe slOosh is right and he's being consistent. His answers don't feel forced. I dunno. This might be one of those occasions where I've mercilessly trapped a townie. I really just wish he'd just put his hands up and said "I fucked up" right at the start, because it looks like he wiggled about it a bit much for my liking. But meh. 1 2 3 Changing his opinion based on clarity's sentiment. First its "Sloosh looks good up until conclusion clarity" then suddenly his firsts post are weak because clarity said so. Then sloosh looks bad. Vote on oats: Link After that a few back and forth questions that doesn't prove either way: link but he still ends up unvoting. Oats grills me and put forth this argument: link Suddenly Marv is on me again(link). Again it wasn't marv you made this happen, it was oats and marv just jumps on it. In the present. Interaction with rayn: On October 03 2013 21:32 marvellosity wrote: It's not a cheap shot, it's true. You're always a possible mislynch and mafia don't have to push you because you're scummy enough that town will push you on their behalf. That's just fact. rayn, my dear. I think we both know that a decent way of reading your alignment is how you go after your targets and how confrontational and aggressive you are. Even if I take your busyness claim at face value, how do you imagine I or other people in the game go about getting a townread on you, should you be town? On October 03 2013 21:36 raynpelikoneet wrote: Yes i see that, and that's what i am trying to do. I was trying to do that with BH yesterday, but for some reason he is impossible to talk to. :D On October 03 2013 21:36 marvellosity wrote: You're stuck in the hole I'm stuck in, rayn, in that your mafia play is very accomplished. So when you don't exhibit things I expect from town-rayn, I worry. Now why didn't he vote rayn like he did Oats? Put a bit of pressure on? He just lightly say that rayn haven't played to his town-meta and then leaves. On October 03 2013 22:08 marvellosity wrote: I did, but maybe I'm being stupid and forgetting. I'll check. My apologies if so. Does marv ever respond to anyone like that? "Ups maybe I was wrong, i'll check"? Not ever. But he did towards his scummate. Also note the small things that Marv find weird/scummy but no reaction with vote like with me or oats. On October 03 2013 22:09 marvellosity wrote: Hmm. meh. I only semi-retract, still seems odd. Maybe it's just rayn-odd though. Carry on I guess? Again note his defiance towards rayn. On October 03 2013 22:23 marvellosity wrote: This game is hard. I really want to lynch mafia today :/ Dirk thing is tearing me apart because it all reads as so fucking scummy and twisty, but at the same time I "believe" what he's telling me. It's actually infuriating. Of course you believe. You know I'm town. But you still leave the door open that you could lynch me if it came up. Marv then votes sloosh. He doesn't push this lynch at all. This is marv pushing for sloosh: link. I had to ask him for his reasons and he just list them. Short after: link he posts his thought about everyone. Isn't this a perfect time to re-insert that he wants sloosh to be lynched? He doesn't even mention him. All in all Marv just cruised through day 1 (aswell as D2, well more then most). His interactions with Rayn are muted compared to any other player in the game. He puts light pressure on people and backs off. He ask a lot of question and point of stuff, but he never follow through. | ||
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On October 09 2013 21:57 Clarity_nl wrote: You should respond to stuff and strengthen or weaken your read. Or are you saying you're 100% sure marv is scum? I'm not 100%. But right now he is my best bet. As I said I'm waiting for Risen and HF | ||
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On October 09 2013 22:00 marvellosity wrote: if you're town, Dirk, I hope you never sign up to a game i play in ever again. Why so aggresive. There really is no need. | ||
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We can talk about something (or someone else) if you like. I just don't want to go back and forth about this. I presented my case you presented meta arguments for the contrary. I don't agree so where does it leaves this? You calling me stupid.. And that got old real quick yesterday | ||
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I don't think Marv is scum. I kinda did a little bit yesterday but mostly it was to see who followed me there to catch the last scum. Scum wan't to get of marv, right? So whoever sheeped me had to be scum... Yesterday didn't bother me much, but today it is kinda getting to me all that shitcalling from marv. Didn't sign up to get yelled at. Don't want to wait for Risen or HF anymore. Anyway lynch me if you like... ##Unvote ##Vote Risen | ||
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