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I have no idea how that happened.
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
August 23 2013 06:59 GMT
#1423
Actualo=post I have no idea how that happened. | ||
FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
August 23 2013 07:12 GMT
#1431
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
August 23 2013 07:17 GMT
#1432
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
August 23 2013 07:34 GMT
#1441
On August 23 2013 16:27 Sn0_Man wrote: PS scum r happy to "consolidate" on either me or wos since we r both mislynches but they can't wholesale swap cuz it would give away the game hence tofu's shit u just caught. How could you possibly know if WoS is town or scum? You sound like you know hes town and you know this is a mislynch. Congratulations, you just won back my vote. ##vote: sno_man | ||
FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
August 23 2013 08:05 GMT
#1451
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
August 23 2013 18:13 GMT
#1645
What we know: 1) Rayn and Koshi returned SAME from a confirmed parity cop. 2) Koshi claims self-aware miller. Scenario 1: Rayn is town. Koshi is SAM. Rayn is framed. Scenario 2: Rayn is miller. Koshi is SAM. Scenario 3: Rayn is town. Koshi is scum. Rayn is framed. Scenario 4: Rayn is scum. Koshi is SAM. What we need to be doing now is evaluating the probability of each of these respective outcomes and deciding whether a lynch into one of these two players will yield scum. | ||
FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
August 23 2013 18:16 GMT
#1647
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
August 23 2013 18:17 GMT
#1649
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
August 23 2013 18:17 GMT
#1651
On August 24 2013 03:16 Sn0_Man wrote: EBWOP I was talking to oats still @FT: they could both just be scum no framing involved. Yeah that too. I'll add that in. | ||
FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
August 23 2013 18:20 GMT
#1654
What we know: 1) Rayn and Koshi returned SAME from a confirmed parity cop. 2) Koshi claims self-aware miller. Scenario 1: Rayn is town. Koshi is SAM. Rayn is framed. Scenario 2: Rayn is non-SAM miller. Koshi is SAM. Scenario 3: Rayn is town. Koshi is scum. Rayn is framed. Scenario 4: Rayn is scum. Koshi is SAM. Scenario 5: Rayn is town. Koshi is SAM. Koshi is framed. Scenario 6: Rayn is scum. Koshi is scum. Did I miss anything? | ||
FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
August 23 2013 18:21 GMT
#1655
On August 24 2013 03:18 Sn0_Man wrote: PPS rayn godfather is also possible lets not leave those out. oh shit, I forgot about that role. >< | ||
FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
August 23 2013 18:26 GMT
#1658
What we know: 1) Rayn and Koshi returned SAME from a confirmed parity cop. 2) Koshi claims self-aware miller. Scenario 1: Rayn is town. Koshi is SAM. Rayn is framed. Scenario 2: Rayn is non-SAM miller. Koshi is SAM. Scenario 3: Rayn is town. Koshi is scum. Rayn is framed. Scenario 4: Rayn is scum. Koshi is SAM. Scenario 5: Rayn is town. Koshi is SAM. Koshi is framed. Scenario 6: Rayn is scum. Koshi is scum. Scenario 7: Rayn is non-SAM miller. Koshi is scum. Scenario 8: Rayn is GF. Koshi is SAM. Koshi is framed. Did I miss anything? | ||
FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
August 23 2013 18:31 GMT
#1664
On August 24 2013 03:27 Sn0_Man wrote: well TL.net trims out extra spaces apparently. Isn't it obvious that at least rayn is scum out of this? Er, actually rayn could be a town miller not self aware and Koshi could be scum didn't think of that. Seems unlikely. No, I don't think this makes rayn scum. If anything, it proves that the parity check was essentially useless because there are so many possibilities with immeasurable probabilities. | ||
FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
August 23 2013 18:37 GMT
#1668
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FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
August 23 2013 18:38 GMT
#1670
On August 24 2013 03:36 mkfuba07 wrote: Show nested quote + On August 24 2013 03:31 FirmTofu wrote: On August 24 2013 03:27 Sn0_Man wrote: well TL.net trims out extra spaces apparently. Isn't it obvious that at least rayn is scum out of this? Er, actually rayn could be a town miller not self aware and Koshi could be scum didn't think of that. Seems unlikely. No, I don't think this makes rayn scum. If anything, it proves that the parity check was essentially useless because there are so many possibilities with immeasurable probabilities. Oh hey, the conclusion that I pretty much came to when this started! Well, I just got here bro. I'm still processing the flip. | ||
FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
August 23 2013 18:44 GMT
#1675
Yamato, Onegu, and Rainbows are all trying to fake interest. Their apathy shines through their posts as clear as day. Sn0_man is playing illogically and is pushing rayn for no reason. He's been scummy throughout the game. I wouldn't mind lynching any of these folks. | ||
FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
August 24 2013 05:59 GMT
#1745
On August 24 2013 14:57 Onegu wrote: So Im in the hospital now so this will be brief, I should be out tomorrow but not sure. So the two biggest things that stuck out to me. Im not really up for a yamato lynch. Have to go over his filter again but why wouldnt we lynch the other scummy person in sn0? Second we need to take a closer look at firmtofu there are a few reasons for this. Show nested quote + On August 24 2013 03:37 FirmTofu wrote: My conclusion is that we should ignore the parity check and proceed with the game like it never happened. Let's get back to scumhunting instead of wasting our time with this nonsense. This post is a big reason, why would you ever ignore a red check? If we just ignore it there will always talk about it, or it will come back, makeing a even bigger waste of time. He should be vig shot or lynched otherwise town atmosphre will be completely destroyed. My scum games I am very active vayne made a post about its so much easier to play when you know everything. Firm knows this. Show nested quote + On August 24 2013 13:51 Crazometer wrote: I agree with the sentiment that Rayns parity check is inconclusive however I wouldn't go as far as tofu suggested and discard it completely. Perhaps the other cop, should they exist, will be able to work some magic for us tonight to figure that all out. I'm curious as to what other people think the chances of the SAM claim being accurate are? I'll look through his filter now and try to produce a number. Otherwise, sn0 and vayne are probably the most suspicious to me. The pointed out sn0 attitude flip (against other threads) just doesn't feel right, he seems to bounce around from high to low spirited too much as well. Something about Vayne doesn't smell right either so I'll look through his filter and see if anything pops up but I'll probably get what I search for. I like this post alot makes me feel better about crazy. Anyway my pain meds are kicking in. So Im out for now. This is the scummiest post I've ever read. | ||
FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
August 24 2013 06:04 GMT
#1746
Furthermore, what exactly in that post made "you feel better about Crazy"? Please explain, because there is nothing redeeming about Crazy's post. | ||
FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
August 24 2013 06:16 GMT
#1748
On August 24 2013 15:13 Onegu wrote: Show nested quote + On August 24 2013 15:04 FirmTofu wrote: Onegu, the "red check" isn't a red check. It's a "same check". When we have no idea about either Rayn or Koshi's alignment, it is presumptuous to assume that either of them are scum. The only correct course of action is to request a vig shot on one of them so we can determine the alignment of the other. I have already asked for this. The fact that you are unable to reason through this is deeply troubling. Furthermore, what exactly in that post made "you feel better about Crazy"? Please explain, because there is nothing redeeming about Crazy's post. Right so you think town would claim SAM? So unless you think town would claim SAM its the exact same as a red check. And crazy post I liked because it called your post out, gave his thoughts which I thought townie, and while I want him to scum hunt and follow up on that post it made me feel townie from him. Of course, town could claim SAM. You think scum is more likely to claim SAM than town? Why? | ||
FirmTofu
United States1956 Posts
August 24 2013 06:22 GMT
#1751
1) Koshi is SAM and claims SAM OR 2) Koshi is scum and claims SAM BOTH are unlikely. There is no realize reason to claim in both scenarios, so it is clear that Koshi made a bad play. However, I do not think the play was alignment indicative. Bad town play is synonymous with bad scum play in that neither alignment want to be doing it. If you can explain to me why scum Koshi would claim SAM, I may consider your theory. | ||
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