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For the record, I always assumed BC's name was a merge between butcher and shoe maker. | ||
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This game contains no mafia goons, only power roles and There is no 3p | ||
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Of the actives, Geript is the most suspicious. On one hand, he is ballsy if scum to go after DP. On the other, Geript refuses to drop the arguement that DP is scum when it clearly isn't founded that well. When someone sticks to a bad argument throughout the day, they are probably scum not wanting to budge their position. Geript is lynchbait typically, which makes me hesitate to lynch him given his current state in the game. Again out of the actives, I don't know how to read Mocsta so I'm going to assume town. WoS is leaning scum for me considering that "Why are you making yourself a good shot for scum, DP" post. I feel fucking great and accomplished when shot N1--and it's good for a townie to make themselves obvtown and scumhunt so they 1) are an obv medic save, hopefully scum will waste a KP on him and 2) they are obvtown to the townies who want to find scum by process of elimination. I'll wait for an explanation on that --- WoS has rolled survivor in the last two games so reading him is a bit wonky. Rest of the actives are pretty town. Can I get a filter list in the OP s'il-vous plait?? I'd like to get rid of Coagulation early On September 21 2013 14:28 Coagulation wrote: so summary of today DP and geript have a little pissing contest VE is cheer leading for team DP WoS Randomly gets FOSed Mocsta jumps in thread and starts pissing on team DP Mocsta trys to piss a little on pandain kush says stuff no one cares is that right? Just made a list post so far, not even about reads but about generalized thread events. If Coag is going to be a useless fuck just like in Aperture, we should lynch or vig him early on. I'm voting him. Now we just need the other half of the thread to get active, which probably contains 4 scum or something. | ||
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On September 21 2013 21:55 LoneMeow wrote: Not sure what to make of this geript vs the world thing. Mocsta jumping on Pandain (before the ninja vote) seemed weird and I am suspicious. I do want Pandain to explain his vote though. Until he does, ##Vote: Pandain On September 21 2013 22:29 LoneMeow wrote: It feels like you were just looking for someone to jump on. That doesn't feel very town way to play D1. Not enough to say I'd have a scum read on you, but I'll be watching your actions. These posts feel scummy. LoneMeow places an easy vote on Pandain, and condemns Mocsta for jumping on Pandain early. LM states that looking for someone to jump on doesn't feel very townie, but LM himself jumps on Pandain. "I'm suspicious of you, but not enough to say I have a scum read" --- it feels pretty sticky to me. | ||
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Kush is kool let's keep him around. Stutters lynch takes priority of kush 100% | ||
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On September 22 2013 02:26 Coagulation wrote: U both should stfu Hi Coag, you town? | ||
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On September 22 2013 02:29 Coagulation wrote: The towniest Give me those juicy scumreads youve been fermenting, please. I don't want to vig you if you're town bro | ||
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Why is pandain scummy to you? Just threw that out there and didnt back it up. Aside: yay me and marv share small scumread. Yamato seems town btw. | ||
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On September 22 2013 04:17 Coagulation wrote: Anyone buying marvs tryhard "taking notes" bullshit? I consider myself a bit of a marv aficionado and hes giving me bad vibes here for sure. Why is pandain scummy? | ||
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I never defended him, nor did I not do what i said prior. I can debunk the post in about 5 minutes at my comp, not really concered about it. On phone atm if anyone has simple questions. | ||
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On September 22 2013 07:04 justanothertownie wrote: Then why do you feel the need to tell us? Because im bored and at work but its hard to do things via phone that are more than one sentence. | ||
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On September 22 2013 07:21 Pandain wrote: Yes I would like you to explain. Also why you feel like voting Coag versus what you said about going for inactives. I'll try to do this on my phone as best I can. Just cannot quote at all. I'll dissect the case into three points, maybe there are more i can remember.1) I assumed DP was town when talking of Geript. 2) I defended Pandain 3) I say i wanted to lynch inactive but dont follow through. Essentially, #1 is true. I assumed DP as town if im talking of geript in the scum light. If geript is scum, he is ballsy to go after DP regardless of DPs alignment. Bus lor not, but DP would likely be town in this case. In context DPs alignment is irrelevant because its geript who was being scummy. I assume he would be town if geript scum. #2 and #3 are not true. I did not defend Pandain. I even heralded people like Mocsta pressuring him because that was scummy behavior. I was calling out LM for calling out mocsta for calling out pandain, really. I keep asking why coag thinks pandain is scum because i want coag to speak and give reasoning instead od hiding in the shadows. He mentions pandain as mafia but never says why its scummy behavior. Similarly, I did follow through on my inactive lynch. Coag is low volume poster and was such in my scumteam. This is similar behavior, he hasnt done anything which equals inactive. LM is also pseudo inactive and i could lynch him. By inactive i dont mean those who have 0 posts, i mean those who are clearly there but have 1-4 posts of uselessness. | ||
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On September 22 2013 08:12 ObviousOne wrote: I need to see him in an argument with Not-Pandain to decide. Preferably a big messy one. Then I will judge him. If it helps I came to the same conclusion for opposite reasons. What it really boils down to is that he's not trolly enough for an easy town read. I see him closer to his scum self than what I remember of his town game. Actually the more I think about it, he hasn't done the whole "bus my entire team all day every day" routine. Fuck it. Town from me as well. How do you know I'm not bussing coag/LM? Look at aperture d1. Felkyr and alakaslam were my punching bags. | ||
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Anyone have a town game of Zaragon I can read? | ||
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On September 22 2013 23:39 Mocsta wrote: Zaragon is signed up for the latest newbie and has liek 60 posts under his name Maybe he has played on other forums? CC, take on the yamato situation that unfolded like 2-3 pages ago. Does his absence affect that read? I'm gutreading Yamato as town. He doesn't always use the best logic in the world, but when he's town it shines fairly brightly. I don't really know what you mean by his absence affecting my read. | ||
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On September 23 2013 00:06 Mocsta wrote: *facepalm* OK, so you got the gut read on yam. You clearly read his last post. You clearly read others retorts to that last post. *Yam isn't on the scum list above* Walk me through where I am going wrong with my read on Yam. His scum meta just seems a lot different from his earlier postings. As soon as he entered the thread I was like "o hai, town yamato" Did the same thing in Aperture, and we had to shoot him fucking n1. NIGHT 1. I didn't think his post was that scummy tbh, just bad. | ||
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I don't really care about Yamato right now. Even if he is scum, he'll show me in the latter parts of the game where he veritably falls apart (see: Persona). I'm pretty indifferent who we lynch because everyone is just a name right now, and even the scummiest people will probably flip town because that's just how it works sometimes. Just don't lynch obvious town or really active dudes. | ||
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On September 23 2013 00:44 VayneAuthority wrote: Log Two Journal, I wandered around the streets of Noire today, the town that I apparently currently reside in. There really is no system or order here, people simply shout insults freely and murder others in the street. It's a despicable state of affairs. I was lucky to only run into a few minor altercations as I mostly kept to myself. An old man who declared himself to be "Koshi" promptly called me scum and began spitting at me when I asked him for directions to where I could purchase food. There seems to be an Australian gang that has a large hold over the town, and people regularly speak in fear of their members such as "Darthpunk" and "Mocsta." I'm pretty sure I heard a couple of kiwi sound voices in a back alleyway before I crossed the train tracks, it sounded like they were beating a man to death. I really hope my amnesia doesn't kick in if I ever hear an Australian accent again. There was one bright spot in my day, a fair maiden who called herself "Rayn" offered me shelter and food while I collect my bearings, but warned me that I need to leave within three days and get out of this town. This is where I am currently writing from, and I've written notes everywhere to remind me why I am here. It seems I am still far from finding my true purpose, but until then I must survive in this hell hole of a town. Good bye for now. Okay now I want to lynch this guy. | ||
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I was thinking the exact opposite of the opposite. Vayne are you going to be useful? | ||
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On September 23 2013 00:52 marvellosity wrote: I've been following him reasonably closely already because he's a name I don't recognise. He's an interesting one, not totally sure what to think. Sometimes he meanders, sometimes he seems quite matter-of-fact in a way that mafia find quite hard to do I think. My only real read on him atm is "interesting". I ask because last night, he posted something, and I said 'oh, it's this guys first post' in my head. Then I realized he had been posting the entire game. It feels like blending in the entire game because I haven't even noticed the guy. | ||
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On September 23 2013 00:56 marvellosity wrote: I'd noted his first post in the game down as being 'generic' and his 2nd as being 'weird'. I liked that he seemed to be on my wavelength about that Wave post I referenced (geddit). Lynching someone today who at least seems to be trying seems kinda unwise tbh. Well, that throws out a ton of potential candidates, and I mostly agree. That means we're lynching LoneMeow, correct? I think Koshi is slightly-scummy considering his meta but I'd like to lynch a rather inactive scummy dude today. ##Vote: Lonemeow | ||
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On September 23 2013 01:01 marvellosity wrote: I'm going out shortly but I'll be back in ~6 hours to find a good lynch. Players that come to mind as lynchable are Risen (seriously no-one cares that he has clearly been around but not doing anything?), Pandain (suspicions on Mr.C and OO look really misplaced, otherwise poor activity), Sentinel (weird opener, coag vote, lack of engagement), LoneMeow (reasons already given). Maybe there's more but that's the general kinda pool I'm looking at right this minute Oh, ninja'd. Risen did the same thing as, admittedly 3P, in Aperture for D1. Keep him around for a while. Otherwise the other 3 seem OK for now. | ||
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On September 23 2013 01:05 marvellosity wrote: It's kinda weird orientating yourself in a game where 5/30 people still haven't posted tbh. And 6 of 30 are mafia. | ||
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On September 23 2013 11:48 DarthPunk wrote: NO FT HAD 6 FIRST AND THE HOSTS FLIPPED THE WRONG PLAYER Hi guys just got home---->LOL DP is town btw. Ray was an OK lynch from what I saw pre-work shift, idk much of what happened after. I did see that LoneMeow was martyring hard and nobody cared, why not lynch him? I request a vig. | ||
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Zaragon is constantly playing the noob card time and time again, and his posts are a lot of fluff with not much content. He is semi-lurking and appears to be contributing when not doing much of anything. LoneMeow for obvious reasons. Lurking, being scummy day 1, and then martyring. Prime vig food. Sentinel did that giant post that voted Coag, not too bad, but the "These are the people that haven't done anything" part was scummy as balls. Apparently he also flipped his read on Ray. Pandain might also be a good target because his D1 megapost was super wrong and misinterpreted a ton of information in the thread. OO is most likely town and I'm 100% town. If Pandain is town, he would have come to a different conclusion imo. Also, I'm butthurt about him calling me mafia. I don't even care about Rayn/Marv/Koshi/DP/geript atm until I see the night kills. I'm barely skimming over their posts because everything just seems to go in a circle of accusation. I'll just say that DP is almost certainly town and should not be a vig target (geript...). I'd even go so far as to say, doc him. | ||
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On September 25 2013 06:14 ObviousOne wrote: Cheesecake is the epitome of useless this game and that makes him likely town. Saved you the trouble. Not so much useless as not posting at all. There's a difference, if you want to get into that sort of thing. Regardless, I am indeed town and would thoroughly enjoy lynching scum today. Have a handful of townreads that I'm fairly confident on. I'm OK with lynching Sent / LM / Pandain / Zaragon.... mayyyyyybe FT. | ||
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On September 25 2013 06:25 marvellosity wrote: The bold and the underline don't go together very well. I don't need to post to find scum. And there are at least 2 scum in that list | ||
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On September 25 2013 06:28 marvellosity wrote: If you really want to lynch scum, how about narrowing it down and picking out those mafia then? Or do you think you'll fulfil your goal of "thoroughly enjoying" lynching mafia by doing nothing? Considering there are 6 mafia and I picked 5 people, that's pretty good I guess. Considering I have no idea about any alignment other than my own, I have about the same confidence(Trademark: Debears) in each of those flips. I'm doing things, in my brain. Except nobody can see them. I eliminate all of my townreads from the scumpool and then look at whats remaining -- a bunch of null/maybetown/scummy people. I filter them each, and I come up that I'm content lynching into those guys and see what happens. | ||
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Ceph is just a lurker lynch, which is cool. I'll vote Pandain for great justice! ##Vote: Pandain | ||
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On September 26 2013 01:35 marvellosity wrote: This game is uncannily like the game I just played offsite. Do explain, professor Marv. | ||
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On September 26 2013 01:48 strongandbig wrote: Why is pandaman's scum? I don't know what his alignment was yet I golden sun cause he hasn't flipped so I'm not sure how's to analyze him. I like his geript post tho His first big post of the game called out myself and OO, and I'm pretty sure OO is town. His points on me were misunderstandings, really. He also called out Moc who I also have a decent townread on. Being wrong =/= scum, but gut feeling here. Felt like a misplaced scum fake-suspicion in a sea of town suspicions. Geript post is... interesting. | ||
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On September 26 2013 01:54 Mattchew wrote: Has lonemeow done anything this game when hes not pushed Not particularly. Unfortunately it's one of those cases of noob/injured/slow-typing townies versus scum. That's why I wanted him vigged but nobody complied. | ||
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On September 26 2013 02:04 strongandbig wrote: Ok found it its like five pages of your filter afo The cephiro case is better because I think bus filter looks scummier. But your point about not wanting to lynch firm off is good. But why does wanting to kill you and not explaining make him scum. That's not something scum would probably do? Like its not in line at all with his other posts. Not saying it makes him town because it downs make sense either but I don't see why it's one of your points. I don't recall Pandain being vindictive about lynching Marv. I see he mentioned it in passing when looking to check people for scum. Pandain was even surprised that scum shot who they did over someone like Marv (I'm not sure if this means Pandain initially thought Marv to be town, or if Marv is scum because he wasn't shot) | ||
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On September 26 2013 02:13 Risen wrote: That's pretty much how I play as scum. Don't see why it would be so hard for other people to play that way. Again, lynch candidates should be FT or Cephiro. I would prefer a FT lynch over Cephiro, but I do think both are scum so I'll lynch either. I quite agree with that's how scum can play. You were in Aperture; As scum I saw the entire game how people on my team were playing -- apart from the couple actives they were all lurking and barely contributing unless their hide was on the line. | ||
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On September 25 2013 12:50 Pandain wrote: Day one Senteniel is like the definition of scum. His first post is a list without content but looks like content. He's wishy washy-here Then a contradiction/wishwass/simple scum. He sounds pretty sure of himself and like he already came to a conclusion And then a sudden change after re-reading? More importantly, this contradicts with what he writes in his explanation post: Does not sound paniced. It's a possibility but I think it's weak, also FT was the other main guy who could be lynched. But day two sentinel is so good, he's reasoned and makes sense. Simply because of his day two, I'm hesitant to lynch him. It's so town in my eyes. What do you think of his D2 play Yamato? Panda, my problem with this post is that you spend the entirety of it talking about how Sentinel looks / looked like scum, and then in the last sentence say he is probably town because his D2 is good. If you don't think he's scum, why bring up the reasons for him being scum again? | ||
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On September 26 2013 02:52 Pandain wrote: My computer is about to die. I think Marv is town. I am not certain. Marv is probably town. | ||
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Now that I think about it, if he pushed Sentinel D1 they (probably) aren't both mafia. If panda is mafia and sent town, he could have just pushed a sent lynch through because he was a target of high suspicion coming into D2. It seems like everyone in the thread has a scumread of some sort on LM, but nobody wants to lynch him T.T | ||
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Koshi, stop. | ||
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Idc if we lynch him or Cephiro tbh. Pandain is a bad lynch for today. | ||
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On September 26 2013 05:25 raynpelikoneet wrote: Mr.CC and VE why are you voting for LM? Mr.CC you are switching from Pandain to LoneMeow. Why? VE is don't see you ever mention LM as scummy. Explain your vote. On September 26 2013 02:59 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: Panda is probably a bad lynch. Now that I think about it, if he pushed Sentinel D1 they (probably) aren't both mafia. If panda is mafia and sent town, he could have just pushed a sent lynch through because he was a target of high suspicion coming into D2. It seems like everyone in the thread has a scumread of some sort on LM, but nobody wants to lynch him T.T | ||
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On September 26 2013 05:26 justanothertownie wrote: Noted. I am not saying LM is town but I think it is very possible that he is just overwhelmed by the size and the players of this game. He is an easy target for scum and I don't like the people on the wagon that much. What makes him different from Cephiro in regards to being an 'easy target' | ||
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On September 26 2013 05:29 justanothertownie wrote: Cephiro is an experienced player. Players like Stutters and Sylencia are experienced players, but people often refer to them as "easy targets" or "lynchbait". | ||
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On September 26 2013 05:33 justanothertownie wrote: So? I think it is much easier for attack LM because they don't expect him to defend himself. I don't know what this has to do with LM being scum or not. I don't care if scum would pick on a player like LM if he were town. In fact, most people this game have been ignoring LM. Day 1 most of the players just forgot about him or wrote him off, same with last night and today. Scum obviously aren't putting him up as an easy lynch target or they would have done it already by attacking him nonstop. Nothing he's done this game has showed me that he's town. Therefore, he should be lynched. | ||
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On September 26 2013 06:07 ObviousOne wrote: Still reading But Where did I vote coag? If I did I am an idiot. If you're lying your read is fake. Wow. This was his main reason in voting for me. Even though it makes no sense because Coag was inactive, I think he's mixed the two of us up scumread-wise OO xD | ||
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On September 26 2013 06:09 ObviousOne wrote: And in light of previous why are you making shit up about last game and also defending the guy making shit up about me? Fuck Wtf OO? What did I make up about the last game? | ||
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On September 26 2013 06:18 ObviousOne wrote: I was the shittastic teammate last game. Everyone else was good. Lol You were shittastic, that is besides the point. My point is that most of the team lurked and was useless in the grand scheme of things. Felkyr, you, randombum, coag... austin day 1-2 and 'till the end of 3, 'slam who was obv mafia but nobody lynched him because he was an easy target. Only clarity was a town influence, and myself to a certain extent. Austin in the latter part. | ||
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On September 26 2013 06:24 ObviousOne wrote: Oh shit that's right there were 7 of us in that game. I channeled my rage at you. Sorry. You want some coffee and a German cookie? 8.German cookie sounds good. I'm mad at Pandain for shittastic cases on both of us too, but does that make him scum necessarily? | ||
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On September 26 2013 06:27 Pandain wrote: You focus on me too much. What are your other thoughts I'm trying to calm OO down about you, problem? I can let him rage and vote you if you'd like. | ||
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Hi cephiro, you're about to get lynched what say you? | ||
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On September 26 2013 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote: Ehhhhhhhhhhh.....uuhhhhhhhhh...... That's.......not townlike from marv. 23 pages of filter I hope he's town. | ||
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On September 26 2013 07:23 ObviousOne wrote: Because you bus like a boss you fucking bussing busser. Easier to post when you know you're right, is it? Well as mafia i can never be wrong. If I lynch town that's good for me and I don't feel bad. I can laugh like a maniac in the scum QT. If I lynch mafia I can also feel good because towncred and i probably didn't like the guy I was lynching anyway :D | ||
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On September 26 2013 07:26 ObviousOne wrote: Did I ever say if I think geript is town or scum? IDR. I probably said town if anything, but you just went null. That was scummy . Thanks for helping mafia by throwing away your vote in a plurality. +1 | ||
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And if I want to lynch somebody for doing distinctly non-town things people are going to shout: "Town can do that too! He's just bad town! That's so obviously not-town oriented that scum would never do such a thing!" The problem is that they are probably right, and we end up with a mislynch. If I can't trust that characteristics associated with being mafia or being not-town are true, how on Earth can I push a correct lynch? LM is playing not-town. So therefore he should be mafia, am I missing something here? And Koshi, please fuck off kindly. | ||
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JAT -- Post it. | ||
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On September 26 2013 09:04 deconduo wrote: Quick thoughts on the main lynch candidates. Mattchew: Looking pretty damn townish based on this post: I thought the same myself, and WoS would have been my top medic target. Why would scum Mattchew post that, and then go and NK him anyway. LoneMeow: Has many bad/bizarre posts, such as the martyring as well as this one: However I would read that as bad play as opposed to scum play. I don't see anything in his filter that couldn't be explained by being a newbie townie. Cephiro: These two lines in particular stand out to me. I don't see why a town would ever post something like this, it seems like a very scum-mindset thing to do. #Vote: Cephiro Who's this guy? | ||
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On September 26 2013 09:15 iamperfection wrote: replaced xzavier hasn't done shit. One of Cephiro and LM is scum. And if Cephiro is town, this mysterious man... | ||
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On September 26 2013 09:19 Koshi wrote: "Claiming alignment is enough" I think it is that part that is strange. Cuz everyboody claims alignment. Also he claims a role without claiming a role and he knows it. But w.e. Then why aren't you voting Cephiro off the island? | ||
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Let's see how scum handle my vote switch. ##Vote: Zaragon | ||
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Vote for Dec / Zara / Ceph / LM DO THIS SHIT | ||
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I'm pretty much up for anyone of these people LOL | ||
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On September 26 2013 10:17 VisceraEyes wrote: Pressuring reads isn't my forte. I don't know what to ask people, because generally I don't know what kind of stuff is important to determining their alignment. That's not how I scumhunt. I scumhunt by observing, picking up trends in their play and shit like that. Is it the best way? Probably not, but it's how I've found the most success. VE... Do you NOT remember Noir? You pressured me to all hell in that game D2. And I also remember you pressuring Hopeless. This is actually bullshit you are spewing. | ||
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On September 26 2013 10:24 Mocsta wrote: U better hope u r. Cos last night I checked Yam So GTFO Where's ur breadcrumb BRO? | ||
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On September 26 2013 10:27 Mocsta wrote: Its a parity check...why would i breadcrumb? GTFO IDK.. maybe you've been eating bread and you dropped a crumb? But srsly ceph or LM is dying... which one? Anything else is a throwaway vote at this point. | ||
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On September 26 2013 10:32 Pandain wrote: LOL never lynch Pandain ever. | ||
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On September 26 2013 10:33 Mocsta wrote: ##unviite vote: iamp Iamp is town whatrudoin | ||
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On September 26 2013 10:35 geript wrote: ##unvote ##vote coagulation WHAT. THE. FUCK | ||
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On September 26 2013 10:44 LoneMeow wrote: I obviously prefer lynching Cephiro over being lynched myself. Vote: Cephiro hi, who is mafia? | ||
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FUCK! no mention of yam at ALL in his filter either. FUUUUUUUCK | ||
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On September 26 2013 11:00 Mocsta wrote: kk. im not doc, i just wanted lone lynched sorry guise hes scum i tell you ! Wow.... | ||
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You have somebody knew to hate, iamp <3 Also we shouldn't be talking. | ||
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On September 26 2013 11:17 geript wrote: Moc that's some bullshit and you should know better. You're fully on my scum list too. 3docs, 3 gigs, 3cops vs 2 RB, 2 gf and 2 framers. There's no reason to fake counter a doc. Nice scum claim. How the hell do you even know 2 rb 2 gf 2frame | ||
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On September 26 2013 11:50 Meapak_Ziphh wrote: modkills and replacememts will be assessed at the end of n2 . Modkills best scumhunters! | ||
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I flip flop a lot, which i hardly do as scum. I take full credit for lynching LM, it's fine. Nobody else seemed to give many fucks on their lynch choice. I did believe for a second that mocsta was doc and LM wqs scum fakeclaiming. The claim was 10 min pre lynch with NO suggestion that yam was his townread, the fact that I went and looked to see is indicative of me being town because as scum i would know LM was telling the truth. I had a townread on moc and believed him until i realized how rediculous it was. The two doc thing was sarcasm speculation. If y'all disagreed with who I wanted to lynch, people should have spoken up. I barely pushed that hard and was willing to switch to other targets, because again i dont know who is scum and there were many good options. I will say my sig is true. But I'm not playing anti town just because i wanted to lynch a noob town, apparently. Im not playing super pro town either, im just playing town. | ||
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This is why i hate playing town. I get yelled at for going with my gutread and who I wanted to lynch. | ||
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Lol at rayn telling me to shape up. | ||
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Can't decide of Mocsta is just very bad at reading me, or mafia. Mocsta makes these giant long huge posts... super dedicated. Prolly town, had a town read on him most of this game really. Considering LM's flip, Stutters looks pretty awful now. D1 he looked townier than he usually does but now I could lynch him. | ||
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Give me 3 reasons I am scum like this, no evidence required. A short sentence for each. 1) 2) 3) | ||
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On September 28 2013 00:33 ObviousOne wrote: You have a town read on Mocsta and myself. VE has a scum read on the two of us. What is the long version of your opinion on VE? Weird. More likely scum than some others. | ||
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I know you're around in thug atm, what is your read on my shennanigans thus far? | ||
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Why do my action yesterday specifically make me NOT MAFIA. A lot of people think I'm mafia, including some town reads. Why am I NOT MAFIA? | ||
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I will tell you this Mocsta: You will never lynch me. I am not scum. Wasting your time with misconceptions about my play or how I think is bad. | ||
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I shouldn't have to justify my actions because I'm town, I have no idea who is scum or not and change my mind constantly based on what happens in the moment and what I'm rereading over filters. As scum my actions match EXACTLY with my words because I make sure they do: I try to never leave an inconsistency. If Ceph is my scumbuddy, say, I would have bussed him so fucking hard, OR, placed a casual vote on LM and afk'd the rest of the day. Actively pushing lynches away from scumbuddies is not what I do anyway. If you look at nomination I did that, but it was for towncred to bus another scumbuddy. In Aperture I friggen bussed my teammeate at an 8-8-8 vote: I didn't care if he was lynched. Why would I do differently here? I could have easily voted Ceph and looked townie for it. Unfortunately, I'm town and can't make myself look townie by knowing who flips what. | ||
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Your reaction is hilarious btw. Assuming I have a red check on you... Afraid of something? | ||
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On September 28 2013 01:35 Mocsta wrote: First post from stream (from case) Even though at this point in time I thought LoneMeow was more scummy of the two; a statement like this directly implies that Cephiro is a town read for you. Its cut and dry. Then when you factor in Marv, hammering in Cephiro as prime lynch all cycle.. and you avoid discussing Cephiro with the above... yeah.. the hole is VERY deep. Seriously Mocsta? I didn't even mention Cephiro! I said LONEMEOW IS MAFIA and i want to lynch my top scumread. | ||
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On September 28 2013 01:54 Koshi wrote: Mocsta so tryhard 0o If he's scum, props to him for being a bastard. But he's really annoying if town. | ||
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He also had a strong town read on me which I should have realized was bullshit earlier. | ||
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If he's scum, probably one of the later one's I'd lynch. Mocsta worries me SO much. I townread him decently at the start and he's being so damn active. So much effort--but then again, I give 10x more effort as mafia because shooting townies is awesome. But he's wrong on me, that much I know. Considering he's been throwing shit at me the entirety of D3, especially since he apparently condoned my stance on LM D2, I don't know what to think. Trying to pin the lynch on me, it seems, because everything he's done is revolve his entire argument around me lynching LM. VE is a good lynch because he's VE and I like killing him. Stutters is probably the safest bet. Early D1 I wrote him off for actually doing things and looking semi-pro town. But now he's subsided into "Stutters gonna stutt" territory. Seems like mafia that hoped on the LM late to save his bud. Looking back at his D1 contributions was just a bunch of thread sentiment as well. Lynch. | ||
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Is Malongo still in the game or has he been modkilled yet? | ||
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Stutters is also mafia I will vote him as well. VE dies today tho ##Vote: VisceraEyes | ||
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So with him and stutters thats 3 left. One of koshi / rayn two left... | ||
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On September 30 2013 11:43 geript wrote: I've had a townread on Mocsta since like forever. I'd much rather lynch Risen than anyone else in the thread. Lynch VE instead of Risen plx. I had a townread on him forever as well which is why I don't particularly favor lynching him right now. Just realized looking votecounts that Risen has throw away his vote on both d1/d2 lynches. | ||
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On September 30 2013 11:49 geript wrote: Scum generally spread the vote out and "throwing away" the vote on D1 when no one knew when the fucking deadline was could easily mean that he just never drew it elsewhere. Also... Didn't Risen end up on neither Ceph or LeonMeow on D2 and he actively pushed "Not Ceph" D2 while having the mysterious scum read on him. Isn't that suspicious to you at all? Show me where he pushed "Not Ceph". I see he wanted FT/Ceph lynched. | ||
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On September 30 2013 11:56 geript wrote: But the fact that he was pushing FT over Ceph while he had a mysterious scum read on Ceph isn't scummy to you? Does anyone even fucking read what I post? You can have a scumread on a guy but push your top scum read, it's not the end of the world. And nobody reads what you post because you are fucking anti-town the entire game and when you finally decide to start playing nobody wants to hear it anymore. Sorry. | ||
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On September 30 2013 12:02 geript wrote: Fine then your loss for being anti-town for not listening at all. Lynch who you want. I'm fucking down. MZ/Sol please modkill me I'm done with this shit and am not going to post ever again in this thread I just fucking said I understand where you were coming from. Quit bleeding out of your vagina because you decided to troll the entire game and start playing finally. If you posted content like this from D1 I'd be listening intently. And now maybe I'm listening. | ||
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Mocsta, Pandain, Cephiro, geript, ObviousOne This list is shit. This isn't town VE's list. | ||
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On September 30 2013 12:22 Risen wrote: This list is almost identical to mine, but he's scum and I'm town? That makes no sense. Where did I say you were town. | ||
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On September 30 2013 12:44 Risen wrote: You said I was a strong town read, which is as close to town as possible. It's like when I call geript scum, I don't know 100%, he's a scum read. I said I had a strong town read on Mocsta which is why I am hesitant to lynch him. Not you. | ||
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VE Stutters Maybe FT. I'm having trouble piecing the puzzle together in the votecount department eh. | ||
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On September 30 2013 13:02 Pandain wrote: Cheesecake since I think you might be town and I'm busy can you do an analysis of Rayn for me You couldn't give me a klondike bar to analyze Rayn... but ugh. I'll try. All I know is that he voted Cephiro D2 which is good for him. | ||
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On September 30 2013 13:04 geript wrote: First off, now you've modconfirmed I'm town and Risen is scum Second off, getting myself modkilled in no way helps town since there's no way I'd get lynched ever Third, go ahead and get me banned. I don't give a fuck about that. This game as been so awfully run that I wouldn't want to continue regardless Fourth, are you on fucking crack? 1) Don't even go there again. Not after the game where you were 'modconfirmed' and only won due to that. 2) Dude just chill out seriously. | ||
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I think he's leaning in the right directions if town. Wants to lynch stutters / VE. Looking at Risen. Thinks I'm mafia, healthy skepticism. | ||
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On September 30 2013 13:19 iamperfection wrote: risen can you please be town because this becomes hilarious if your are. +1 | ||
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On September 30 2013 13:08 Risen wrote: EBWOP: Though that blatant disrespect for a host warrants a modkill. I'm now convinced Geript is just horrible town, good riddance. On September 30 2013 13:26 Risen wrote: I'm town, and I can't believe Geript is town. Horrible. This makes me lol. | ||
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U can totes lynch VE/stutters/ft right? | ||
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On September 30 2013 13:45 Pandain wrote: Hey CC I gave you a somewhat town read which is more then I've had the whole game of you. somewhat town read. AKA "Hmm idkhelookstownbutidkguysmaybescum" Iamp defended me. | ||
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On September 30 2013 13:51 Pandain wrote: Right now based on contribution I would have to say Risen, CC, and I are most likely town. Which is a good starting point at least since I do consider almost everyone scummy, including you guys. Despite your early play I think you're pretty town right now. If you were right on OO I will crap my pants, though. | ||
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On September 30 2013 13:54 Pandain wrote: On him being town? What makes you think he's scum? I meant on him being scum, early game you thought hemaf | ||
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But yeah getting VE lynched will be fun. His reactions are usually telling. It's possible I'm just bad and should be lynching stutters or something, but killing VE is always fun. | ||
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Risen's overreaction to this is scummy as hell. | ||
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On September 30 2013 14:50 Risen wrote: Why? Because he's defending you? If you're town shouldn't you be questioning why he immediately defended you? He's the reason I find it almost impossible to trust that you could be town making a horribly bad judgement call. 1) It's common knowledge nobody would check Coag. He is confirmed town via confirmed doc save on confirmed town and he has a confirmed vigi shot on confirmed dead vayne. Checking him is a joke. 2) Coag was doing nothing, pandain asked him if he had anything to add, coag replied "not usually". I joked about having a check on him and lynching him. It's not even an alignment indicative joke. 3) If you think that's serious you need your head examined. It makes no sense as some weird-ass ploy that Risen is making up. It's just a joke for gods sake. HOW IS MAKING A JOKE A HORRIBLY BAD JUDGEMENT CALL HOLY FUCK YOU ARE SO BAD IF TOWN | ||
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Now stfu and lynch VE. | ||
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This discussion is over. Find scum or don't post. | ||
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Come VE, show us your great martyring abilities! On September 26 2013 10:24 VisceraEyes wrote: Guys I'm just not in a "lynch-drivey" kind of mood this game. I'm in more of a sit-back-and-commenty kind of mood. That's not a crime last time I checked. COMMENT ON YOUR DEMISE. Who do you think is suspicious for driving this lynch? | ||
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But if he just screws off all day he's claiming scum. | ||
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On September 30 2013 23:44 strongandbig wrote: Why are people voting VE - is it just because he is still alive? Like, that's a good argument and I find it kind of compelling but has anyone actually analyzed his play? I want to kill risen ATM. Geript's case was good. How are people just ignoring it? Don't want to kill mocsta. If he's scum then he can trololol his head off for all I care. Our best chance of winning is to kill the clearest scum around. ##vote: risen If you look at VE's filter D2, it is pretty horrendous. He hasn't pushed any lynches like I would see a town VE do. I like Risen for scum as well, btw. | ||
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You're scum. Prove me wrong. Don't just incessantly quote your garbage scumteam and do nothing else. | ||
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On October 01 2013 00:12 VisceraEyes wrote: Garbage scum team? Dude that's THE scumteam. If you disagree with me feel free to keep dumbly voting for me or whatever. I haven't seen you give a decent shred of evidence this game as to why that is THE scumteam. GERIPT is confirmed town now. OO I've had a town read on all game. I'm townreading Pandain now. Mocsta remains to be seen, but if I'm right about you, he's town too. | ||
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You have done nothing to convince the town other than say Pandain / OO / Geript scum in those regards, and with Mocsta it's a bunch of shitflinging between you and Risen alternating shifts. | ||
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On October 01 2013 01:12 justanothertownie wrote: Koshi, seriously. Stop assuming things about the hosting. You did this in the Newbie game we played together too and you were horribly wrong. This is not true. I am all for pressuring VE but the bolded part is wrong. Is it? I was under the impression that it was so. LM died by 4 extra votes and people were leaning that way regardless. hmm | ||
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I'm seriously considering just policy lynching Mocsta. | ||
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On October 01 2013 01:52 Koshi wrote: Just kill Mocsta... Vote VE until he does something. | ||
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Did VE really PM people? -.- I didn't get one. | ||
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I'm parity cop and VE was different than Umasi. Umasi was the same as BH. -.- Fucking framer bullshit is so stupid. Should known since MZ sent me "Same" and then 2 minutes later said "Wait, he's different nvm" ..... ##Unvote: ##Vote: Stutters And mocsta is pretty confirmed mafia as well, would kill. | ||
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On September 26 2013 09:14 Mr. Cheesecake wrote: + Show Spoiler + On September 26 2013 09:04 deconduo wrote: Quick thoughts on the main lynch candidates. Mattchew: Looking pretty damn townish based on this post: I thought the same myself, and WoS would have been my top medic target. Why would scum Mattchew post that, and then go and NK him anyway. LoneMeow: Has many bad/bizarre posts, such as the martyring as well as this one: However I would read that as bad play as opposed to scum play. I don't see anything in his filter that couldn't be explained by being a newbie townie. Cephiro: These two lines in particular stand out to me. I don't see why a town would ever post something like this, it seems like a very scum-mindset thing to do. #Vote: Cephiro Who's this guy? ^ look in the spoilers | ||
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And my scumteam made sense in my head with VE being mafia. | ||
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Lynch mocsta / stutters / risen | ||
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2: raynpelikoneet 3: WaveofShadow 4: Blazinghand 5: yamato77 6: Kitaman27 -> good analysis post on D2, good replacement 7: Koshi 8: ObviousOne 9: Chairman Ray 10: FirmTofu -> Who knows? 11: Pandain-> seems townie now 12: Cephiro 13: Mr. Cheesecake 14: Decondou -> tentatively green for voting Cephiro D2 15: Coagulation 16: Stutters695 17: iamperfection 18: Malongo 19: [UoN]Sentinel - Need to see flips first 20: VisceraEyes 21: VayneAuthority 22: geript 23: Risen 24: LoneMeow 25: marvellosity 26: Zaragon 27: Mattchew 28: Umasi 29: justanothertownie -> roleblocked, seems genuinely townie 30: Mocsta Probably mostly wrong. In before mafia fake roleblocked all of their own (JAT, OO). Risen, mocsta, rayn were all pushing for my lynch, terribly. Stutters useless scum. Iamp maybe scum. FT maybe scum. | ||
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Anyway, I'm just going to coast. | ||
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Stutters is 100% mafia, would lynch. | ||
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Risen is without a doubt the dumbest person in the thread. If Risen is town, he seriously needs to rethink his play. Lynch stutters and get free scum gogo | ||
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On October 01 2013 23:35 Mocsta wrote: I would prefer if you had said the content was good. & Why is your vote on me again? If Stutters is 100%, shouldnt you be tallying his vote count to (2)?? It's on stutters. | ||
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Told people to lynch stutters. People didn't lynch stutters. /complain. | ||
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I digress. I can't believe Coag hasn't died yet despite being confirmed town -- mafia just know he's that useless rofl. | ||
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On October 03 2013 23:30 kitaman27 wrote: I'd like to mention that I'm also medic, but I determined that none of you guys were worth saving. OMG WHY ARE YOU CLAIMING AS A JOKE THAT'S SO SCUMMY WTF U MUST BE MAFIA ##Risenlogic | ||
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OKAY KOSHI DIES LEL ##unvote ##vote: Koshi | ||
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On October 04 2013 02:04 justanothertownie wrote: I think that doesn't go too well with those reads. Then lynch me. | ||
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You know what? I'm just going to vote stutters again. Lynch him, don't be retarded. ##Unvote: ##Vote: Stutters | ||
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Stutters. Is. Mafia. Lynch. | ||
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