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On June 17 2013 08:15 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 08:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
Now we have the actually difficult decision of lynching prphlz or vivax, where as we could have just lynched both before.
I am going to stick with my vote.
##vote:vivax Last cycle you said your vote was on Vivax because it gave info about Sent. Now that sent has flipped, what is your case against Vivax?
Vivax's flip gives info on sent because he can confirm if town vivax gave a town cop on sent which makes him look a lot better. Nothing changes with sent flipping town because scum vivax could do either alignment on him and it wouldn't matter one bit.
That is why I am frankly upset that the sentinel lynch went through given how things went down but no need to harp on it, time to move on.
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On June 17 2013 08:27 kitaman27 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 08:22 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 17 2013 08:15 kitaman27 wrote:On June 17 2013 08:00 VayneAuthority wrote:
Now we have the actually difficult decision of lynching prphlz or vivax, where as we could have just lynched both before.
I am going to stick with my vote.
##vote:vivax Last cycle you said your vote was on Vivax because it gave info about Sent. Now that sent has flipped, what is your case against Vivax? Vivax's flip gives info on sent because he can confirm if town vivax gave a town cop on sent which makes him look a lot better. Nothing changes with sent flipping town because scum vivax could do either alignment on him and it wouldn't matter one bit. That is why I am frankly upset that the sentinel lynch went through given how things went down but no need to harp on it, time to move on. Thoughts on Vivax's scum buddy?
stutters hopefully? no one really strikes out at me on that list as the last scum. Vivax even isn't that scummy it's more of a policy lynch then anything based on the I receive when he flips. I am assuming a lot of people are town right now that I maybe should or should not based on what he flips so I REALLY hope we get this lynch out of the way today.
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I don't have a case. if it makes you feel better I will just consolidate onto prphlz if you really think my policy lynch is suspect when I have went over what it would solve FMPOV.
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On June 17 2013 10:44 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 10:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't have a case. if it makes you feel better I will just consolidate onto prphlz if you really think my policy lynch is suspect when I have went over what it would solve FMPOV.
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##vote:prphlz Yea this wasn't the answer i was hoping from you. Yes you switched to the person i think it scum. But you didnt so with no content again. At least give some under lying reasons why he is scum. As kita said vote your biggest scum read. Sheeping isn't going to get us anywhere as we get closer and closer to lylo
not really sure what kind of content you want? Scum can just as well post long posts so I don't really see the need to do that when I outlined my voting for the past couple days. If I vote for vivax with no case its scummy and if I vote for prphlz its scummy, everything I do is scummy so I don't see a way I can win here
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On June 17 2013 14:28 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 13:44 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 17 2013 10:44 jaybrundage wrote:On June 17 2013 10:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't have a case. if it makes you feel better I will just consolidate onto prphlz if you really think my policy lynch is suspect when I have went over what it would solve FMPOV.
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##vote:prphlz Yea this wasn't the answer i was hoping from you. Yes you switched to the person i think it scum. But you didnt so with no content again. At least give some under lying reasons why he is scum. As kita said vote your biggest scum read. Sheeping isn't going to get us anywhere as we get closer and closer to lylo not really sure what kind of content you want? Scum can just as well post long posts so I don't really see the need to do that when I outlined my voting for the past couple days. If I vote for vivax with no case its scummy and if I vote for prphlz its scummy, everything I do is scummy so I don't see a way I can win here While yes scum can post long posts as well. I believe its a bit harder the them. Cause they arent actually scum hunting they are faking it. Thats why some peoples scum meta is simply to lurk cause its easier for them. And they dont have to actually produce content. I want your posting to prove that you are genuinely town. If you dont know how to play a game of mafia and establish your townieness with your posting then go look at WoS. He produces content so it easy to see that hes most likely town. I don't think im asking you something extraordinarily difficult. Also the fact that you have no prefrence between prplhz and Vivax kinda intrigues me. Why dont you care which one dies. You say that you believe Vivax's scum buddie to be stutters. But at the same time you change your vote for prplhz. Time to start caring about the game ##Unvote ##VoteVayne
You know that WoS posts a lot as scum too right? just look at Les Mis, Trying to meta me will just lead you to a mislynch, end of story. If you want to say that im posting no content then fine, but don't try to act like its alighment indicative.
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On June 17 2013 14:36 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 14:35 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 17 2013 14:28 jaybrundage wrote:On June 17 2013 13:44 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 17 2013 10:44 jaybrundage wrote:On June 17 2013 10:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't have a case. if it makes you feel better I will just consolidate onto prphlz if you really think my policy lynch is suspect when I have went over what it would solve FMPOV.
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##vote:prphlz Yea this wasn't the answer i was hoping from you. Yes you switched to the person i think it scum. But you didnt so with no content again. At least give some under lying reasons why he is scum. As kita said vote your biggest scum read. Sheeping isn't going to get us anywhere as we get closer and closer to lylo not really sure what kind of content you want? Scum can just as well post long posts so I don't really see the need to do that when I outlined my voting for the past couple days. If I vote for vivax with no case its scummy and if I vote for prphlz its scummy, everything I do is scummy so I don't see a way I can win here While yes scum can post long posts as well. I believe its a bit harder the them. Cause they arent actually scum hunting they are faking it. Thats why some peoples scum meta is simply to lurk cause its easier for them. And they dont have to actually produce content. I want your posting to prove that you are genuinely town. If you dont know how to play a game of mafia and establish your townieness with your posting then go look at WoS. He produces content so it easy to see that hes most likely town. I don't think im asking you something extraordinarily difficult. Also the fact that you have no prefrence between prplhz and Vivax kinda intrigues me. Why dont you care which one dies. You say that you believe Vivax's scum buddie to be stutters. But at the same time you change your vote for prplhz. Time to start caring about the game ##Unvote ##VoteVayne You know that WoS posts a lot as scum too right? just look at Les Mis, Trying to meta me will just lead you to a mislynch, end of story. If you want to say that im posting no content then fine, but don't try to act like its alighment indicative. I'm not trying to meta you. I don't usually use meta cause im lazy. I'm calling out your bad play for what it is scummy. Your posting no content and its scummy.
The one time I have ever played well on this forum I was scum. If you're calling me bad you're basically calling me town if you want to go the meta route so make up your mind 
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On June 17 2013 14:42 jaybrundage wrote:Show nested quote +On June 17 2013 14:37 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 17 2013 14:36 jaybrundage wrote:On June 17 2013 14:35 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 17 2013 14:28 jaybrundage wrote:On June 17 2013 13:44 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 17 2013 10:44 jaybrundage wrote:On June 17 2013 10:25 VayneAuthority wrote:
I don't have a case. if it makes you feel better I will just consolidate onto prphlz if you really think my policy lynch is suspect when I have went over what it would solve FMPOV.
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##vote:prphlz Yea this wasn't the answer i was hoping from you. Yes you switched to the person i think it scum. But you didnt so with no content again. At least give some under lying reasons why he is scum. As kita said vote your biggest scum read. Sheeping isn't going to get us anywhere as we get closer and closer to lylo not really sure what kind of content you want? Scum can just as well post long posts so I don't really see the need to do that when I outlined my voting for the past couple days. If I vote for vivax with no case its scummy and if I vote for prphlz its scummy, everything I do is scummy so I don't see a way I can win here While yes scum can post long posts as well. I believe its a bit harder the them. Cause they arent actually scum hunting they are faking it. Thats why some peoples scum meta is simply to lurk cause its easier for them. And they dont have to actually produce content. I want your posting to prove that you are genuinely town. If you dont know how to play a game of mafia and establish your townieness with your posting then go look at WoS. He produces content so it easy to see that hes most likely town. I don't think im asking you something extraordinarily difficult. Also the fact that you have no prefrence between prplhz and Vivax kinda intrigues me. Why dont you care which one dies. You say that you believe Vivax's scum buddie to be stutters. But at the same time you change your vote for prplhz. Time to start caring about the game ##Unvote ##VoteVayne You know that WoS posts a lot as scum too right? just look at Les Mis, Trying to meta me will just lead you to a mislynch, end of story. If you want to say that im posting no content then fine, but don't try to act like its alighment indicative. I'm not trying to meta you. I don't usually use meta cause im lazy. I'm calling out your bad play for what it is scummy. Your posting no content and its scummy. The one time I have ever played well on this forum I was scum. If you're calling me bad you're basically calling me town if you want to go the meta route so make up your mind No Im calling you scummy cause you dont post content and thats scummy. I dont know what meta your talking about. Meta implies looking at things outside of the game. Which i haven't done. Also you conveniently forgot to answer these questions. These are other reasons i think you might be scum. Show nested quote +jay- Also the fact that you have no prefrence between prplhz and Vivax kinda intrigues me. Why dont you care which one dies. You say that you believe Vivax's scum buddie to be stutters. But at the same time you change your vote for prplhz.
Ok well I never post the "content" you're looking for so I guess you'll just have to attempt to lynch me and find out for yourself. I have clearly outlined many times that my preferred lynch is Vivax but you don't seem to care about that, only your own agenda of trying to make me look bad as if you're trying to set up a future mislynch but not necessarily on this day. From what I recall you're only PR claim is a cop check on layabout as town so I guess I need to re-examine your filter as your strange push on me at this certain point in time is intriguing, mainly due to your contrived reasons for voting me.
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I don't really see the point in continuing the conversation, I have explained in my posts my motive for doing every move and I do not have a scumread on prphlz but people seem to not want to lynch vivax for whatever reason.
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I could be completely wrong here, but if fuba says he got hit as vet and stutters was on him as medic doesn't that mean that one of them is lying?
So is fuba/stutters scum or both or am I wrong here
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oh so if fuba can confirm the hit then it would have to be either Fuba and stutters are scum or neither, assuming mafia didnt no kill.
Guess that makes stutters unlikely scum.
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Yea I forgot that mkfuba claimed before stutters so its completely worthless information, disregard.
Just going to ignore the PR shit for now and look at who is scummy after the flip.
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On June 18 2013 07:45 prplhz wrote:
doesn't matter, it's 15 mins until deadline. there's absolutely no chance of me not getting lynched.
anyway, i was town.
you can still not get lynched if we can consolidate on vivax fast enough, he's simply a better overall lynch but no one wants to for whatever reason
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On June 18 2013 07:41 mkfuba07 wrote:
There are too many people left in this game for me... I can't get my mind straight. I've been reduced to little more than null on too many people after the sent mislynch. I'd been down to sent, vivax, prplhz, and a bit stutters, but was so sure of sent. Now it's like I'm just shooting blindly into a crowd. I don't feel like scum vivax would give a town read to sentinel when he was such an easy mislynch. I also feel like prplhz seems really sincere in his recent posting, but I'm often really swayed by these last minute appeals, so I usually keep myself from posting all that much.
I don't know... I feel like we're walking into another mislynch, but I don't know who we should lynch instead. I'd feel better with a Vayne lynch, probably, but that might just be because he's been bothering me all game. I've flip-flopped all over him, and can't come up with a town read unless I interpret his typical nonchalance as a town tell (which I have been until now). I don't like how much faith he seems to be willing to put into the night actions, when I personally feel like it's very difficult to trust anything about them. His willingness to lynch vivax just to get information from night actions, when night actions could have easily been manipulated by scum in some way, is something that I don't really expect from town. Then there's how positive he was of sent being town, when most people were either null/unsure. I really don't like any of it.
Is anyone else up for a vayne lynch? I doubt we have enough time/people to switch it, but this lynch feels wrong...
##Vote: VayneAuthority
at least be consistent if you're going to write a case on me. Scum vivax can't give a town read on sentinel but scum vayne can give a town read on rayn?
Just one of the many logical fallacies in your post, it's like reading a lawyer manuscript
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On June 18 2013 07:58 mkfuba07 wrote:
What are you talking about? I don't see how those two situations are in any way similar or related. I didn't even say anything about you giving rayn a town read. Scum vivax, with the cop role, could have given a town read to anyone in the game. He instead gave it to the one person most likely to be mislynched (imo). That would have been a silly play for scum.
they are pretty much exactly the same. A scummy person giving a town read on some one that most of the game thinks is scum.
Everyone was voting rayn and I gave him a town read
everyone was suspicious of vivax/going to vote him and he gave sentinel a town check, some one that the game also thought was pretty scummy.
what is the difference
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2 days vivax has escaped death now, all i can say is wow! the last 2 scum are sure influencing this game. This wasn't as bad but lynching the green check was hilariously bad.
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Jaybrundage greenchecked layabout^
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At this point I feel like I have to re-adjust my view of the game after vivax finally gets lynched hopefully.
I feel like at this point stutters could be town with how jay/mkfuba are slowly but surely re-inserting scumreads on me, as if to to slowplay a future mislynch. They can just come back here and be like "look, im consistent!"
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On June 18 2013 08:10 mkfuba07 wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 07:59 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 18 2013 07:58 mkfuba07 wrote:
What are you talking about? I don't see how those two situations are in any way similar or related. I didn't even say anything about you giving rayn a town read. Scum vivax, with the cop role, could have given a town read to anyone in the game. He instead gave it to the one person most likely to be mislynched (imo). That would have been a silly play for scum. they are pretty much exactly the same. A scummy person giving a town read on some one that most of the game thinks is scum. Everyone was voting rayn and I gave him a town read everyone was suspicious of vivax/going to vote him and he gave sentinel a town check, some one that the game also thought was pretty scummy. what is the difference The difference is the ACTUAL ALIGNMENT OF THE FLIPPED TOWN READ/CHECK! And also the complete lack of any reasoning whatsoever on your part. Town vivax was cop, he checked his scumread, scumread comes back town, he says in the thread that he's town. There is reason for town vivax to believe it. Exactly as much reason as you would have had to believe the check if we lynched vivax and he flipped town, as a matter of fact. Scum vivax, on the other hand, was giving a town *check* on someone who is likely to be lynched. That *doesn't* make sense. You gave a town *read* on someone for no reason whatsoever. That person ended up flipping and was revealed as the scum power role. You had no reason to give a town read on rayn as town (as shown by the fact that you didn't actually have a reason for your town read). As scum, however, the reason is obvious. That is how the two are different.
if you want your reason here it is: There is zero benefit to a scum player trying to buddy up with a player that has no pull in the game, so the fact that he tried that with me as opposed to some one that could actually change his lynch was baffling.
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On June 18 2013 08:15 WaveofShadow wrote:Show nested quote +On June 18 2013 08:13 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 18 2013 08:10 mkfuba07 wrote:On June 18 2013 07:59 VayneAuthority wrote:On June 18 2013 07:58 mkfuba07 wrote:
What are you talking about? I don't see how those two situations are in any way similar or related. I didn't even say anything about you giving rayn a town read. Scum vivax, with the cop role, could have given a town read to anyone in the game. He instead gave it to the one person most likely to be mislynched (imo). That would have been a silly play for scum. they are pretty much exactly the same. A scummy person giving a town read on some one that most of the game thinks is scum. Everyone was voting rayn and I gave him a town read everyone was suspicious of vivax/going to vote him and he gave sentinel a town check, some one that the game also thought was pretty scummy. what is the difference The difference is the ACTUAL ALIGNMENT OF THE FLIPPED TOWN READ/CHECK! And also the complete lack of any reasoning whatsoever on your part. Town vivax was cop, he checked his scumread, scumread comes back town, he says in the thread that he's town. There is reason for town vivax to believe it. Exactly as much reason as you would have had to believe the check if we lynched vivax and he flipped town, as a matter of fact. Scum vivax, on the other hand, was giving a town *check* on someone who is likely to be lynched. That *doesn't* make sense. You gave a town *read* on someone for no reason whatsoever. That person ended up flipping and was revealed as the scum power role. You had no reason to give a town read on rayn as town (as shown by the fact that you didn't actually have a reason for your town read). As scum, however, the reason is obvious. That is how the two are different. if you want your reason here it is: There is zero benefit to a scum player trying to buddy up with a player that has no pull in the game, so the fact that he tried that with me as opposed to some one that could actually change his lynch was baffling. How was he trying to change his lynch exactly by 'buddying' you? I remember you bringing that up earlier and thought to myself that it was strange that you'd think of ti that way. You, my friend, have warranted a re-read. In fact I think I want to start actually putting some effort in now since my lategame play is notoriously bad. Kita, thoughts on the mislynch please?
At this point I doubt this town will ever win, much too fickle. At least I have a clear cut plan on how to approach this game instead of just randomly killing off town.
You don't think its weird that scum that is set to be lynched would randomly say I am town when there is absolutely nothing I can do to stop him from being lynched?
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