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On June 12 2013 11:28 fferyllt wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 11:26 iVLosK! wrote:On June 12 2013 11:25 Spicydinosaur wrote:On June 12 2013 11:22 iVLosK! wrote:On June 12 2013 11:20 Spicydinosaur wrote:On June 12 2013 11:17 fferyllt wrote: Who got a message on night 1? I did. roleblocked and jailed. You receive both messages. Didn't want to tip off scum that there was a jailor D2 so thats why I wrote this. Which mod sent you yours? Mine is from OO and it just says "You were roleblocked." End of message. 2 separate messages. First from Sylencia saying i was jail kept. Second from Acrofales saying that just in case I didn't know, I was roleblocked. Mine is just one message. They probably figured I didn't need the "In case you didn't know...". But it was a role block, not a jail keep message? Yes. The entire message was "You were roleblocked." The end. No more. Some mods simply inform of RB's upon jailing, in my experience. Apparently OO is one of them.
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Just so we can get this off the table and go back to looking for scum/SK.
If I lied about being jailed, then where the fuck is the shot?
If no one counters my jail claim then it is confirmed.
/end.
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On June 12 2013 09:00 ObviousOne wrote:Day 3 I may have to start watching this show...
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On June 12 2013 11:43 Onegu wrote:Show nested quote +On June 12 2013 11:33 iVLosK! wrote: Just so we can get this off the table and go back to looking for scum/SK.
If I lied about being jailed, then where the fuck is the shot?
If no one counters my jail claim then it is confirmed.
/end. Well there are other possibilities such as scum afk or target was a vet. But what you say is the most likely option. True, however neither of those scenarios explains the lack of a counter jail claim.
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Hey Umasi, is it cool with you if we lynch you today?
Okay, cool. Thanks bro.
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I say we lynch what's left of the Gotard wagon (Umasi and Xzavier) and then lynch the two who weren't on firere (Onegu and Stimm). Game over. Glorious town victory.
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On June 13 2013 07:08 fferyllt wrote: iV you're giving me hives. You've switched from StimAddict to Umasi without explaining what makes Stim less likely to be scum today than yesterday. And you've suggested a partially unprioritized lynch list. I've pretty much always said I didn't like Umasi. Go check my filter, that shit goes back to likw N1. That's why he's higher priority than Stimm. Stimm is townies because my scummies reads are pushing his lynch, in the case of Xzavier, by rationale that could also lynch them.
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*scummier
Not scummies.
Don't know why my auto correct thought that was appropriate.
Anyways, I'm off to Night school and then I've got a date with a half bottle of McCormack's. I don't think I'll miss much.
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I should mention I don't live alone so that the last post isn't nearly as pathetic. Hahahaha.
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On June 13 2013 15:27 fferyllt wrote: Case for iV being scum (some of these may be null)
- argued against the yavanna case - hopped the Firere bandwagon as it started to gain steam and look inevitable. Had a list of 3 for the day 1 lynch - Skanjab died after masoning him night 1 - Stayed off the Lonemeow wagon. Voted Xzav, then Umasi - JK means he may have been the protected victim, may also mean he was the blocked killer - Has floated a few names on day 3 and apparently has no plans to POE his list of 4 before wagonning. - Is not leading, despite being perceived as town by p much all. - warmed up to yavanna as potential scum only after day 1, when she was a modkill possibility. - minimized possibility that kill went missing because he was blocked.*
Case against iV being scum
- Day 1 gambit got the game rolling in a good direction - Good protown general advice on stuff not to do in mafia. - Skanjab read him as town, masoned him, self-proclaimed track record of reading him correctly**
* could be a style thing. If I were JK'd I'd make sure that possibility was kept in mind. ** strongest reason to think he's town IMO.
I'm still working on my Onego case.
Let me just point out that KP is not roleblockable. Because apparently nobody knows. If I was jailed and I had KP, my KP would still go through. KP is something that's held by the mafia faction, not any individual player.
- argued against the yavanna case And repeatedly asked the mods why she had not been modkilled, at one point demanding that she either be modkilled or they explain why she hadn't.
- hopped the Firere bandwagon as it started to gain steam and look inevitable. Had a list of 3 for the day 1 lynch I work all day, if you guys manufacture a wagon while I'm at work there's no way for me to be there "early" in the wagon. Get used to it.
- Skanjab died after masoning him night 1 Skanjab had a town read on me and trusted me with his life by masoning me. I would have manipulated him all game long with that kind of trust. Scum don't kill people who are positive of their town-ness.
- Stayed off the Lonemeow wagon. Voted Xzav, then Umasi Someone needs to explain to me how this is scummy. What I see here is "told everyone LM was going to flip town. Was correct. Voted for far scummier people."
- JK means he may have been the protected victim, may also mean he was the blocked killer Again, KP is not roleblockable.
- warmed up to yavanna as potential scum only after day 1, when she was a modkill possibility. Pretty much everyone had a town read on her until she went AFK.
- minimized possibility that kill went missing because he was blocked.* I don't even know what this means...
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I'll narrow it down for you.
Xzavier and Umasi have been giving me a shitty feeling all game long and I believe that one of them is scum.
Let's lynch one of them, now.
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On June 13 2013 10:34 Umasi wrote: okay onegu, I will try to explain why. This is literally the best I can do, to tell you why I'm town I'm not responding to your posts, I'm responding to...I don't know what I'm responding to. But rationalize this question: two things, actually:
A: If I am scum, why have I drawn so much attention to myself, and
B: Why have I not been lynched yet.
What about me is towny enough that people are not voting me? This defense. Is the worst defense. In all of mafia-dom.
"If I'm scum, how come people keep noticing me?" Because you're mafia.
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On June 13 2013 11:07 fferyllt wrote: As scum, I would not hesitate to bus a scum partner. If I thought the wagon was going to go through, I would get on it before it was a foregone conclusion.
I have literally done this minutes before the town pile-on started and looked like I was in front and leading the way. More than once.
If I were scum, I most likelly would have been on the Firere wagon. I would have gotten on it a little bit later than when I did, but early enough not to look like I"d given up on the wagon fading away.
This stuff about nobody bussing Firere is not surefire.
Not
at
all
The firere lynch was not a foregone conclusion. He was lynched by 1 vote. Any mafia voting for firere could have bullshitted any sort of reason for switching to gotard. Like "going with my gut," for instance.
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On June 13 2013 22:14 Spicydinosaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 13 2013 21:41 iVLosK! wrote:
Let me just point out that KP is not roleblockable. Because apparently nobody knows. If I was jailed and I had KP, my KP would still go through. KP is something that's held by the mafia faction, not any individual player. What are you basing this off of? As far as we know there is only 1 scum left so he has to carry it out the kill himself. Hypothetically if u were last scum and jailed, your kill will not go through. My own experience. Unless things are run drastically different here on TL, KP is not roleblockable unless explicitly stated in the rules.
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On June 13 2013 22:11 fferyllt wrote: iV, based on your positions and opinons through night 2, who do you think would perceive you as the greatest danger to their win/survival? Umasi and Xzavier, most likely.
But scared scum target loud town voices regardless of who they're FOSing, for fear that the loud voice might change and be directed at them. It doesn't make them much more scummy in my book.
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On June 14 2013 03:53 Onegu wrote: I still have serious doubts about umasi and xzavier, but not posting all the masoner chat, the no kill the second night is really suspious. Or in other words, the worst reason for a vote ever. You're setting a bad example for the noobs.
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I'm not going to be lynched today so you've succeeded in wasting your vote 3 days in a row now.
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