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On June 06 2013 14:00 Xzavier wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 13:51 iVLosK! wrote:On June 06 2013 13:49 Xzavier wrote:On June 06 2013 13:43 fferyllt wrote:On June 06 2013 13:38 Umasi wrote:On June 06 2013 13:37 fferyllt wrote: All this earnestness is very touching. I'm firming up some more reads, I think. Tell us what you think so far, I will start writing my list. Most of what I'm seeing so far looks town-on-town. And I see trepidation about how serious early votes are, which looks pretty newb to me. Everybody in the game could vote the same player in this next hour and it might not mean a thing in terms of who eventually gets lynched. iVLosK! is provoking lots of reactions and that is good. It gives other players stuff to think about and analyze about every player involved, not just iVLosK!. This actually makes sense. if i think about it like that then its a pro-town and pro-mafia motive. more likely pro-town cuz mafia would be scared shitless. this convinced me. You sir, are town and a buddie. ( why would mafia want to stop this banter) Scared shitless? I have no fear, regardless of alignment. I fart in the face of death. Scared shitlesd to Post that much early and draw THAT much attention. I'm just an attention whore. I don't like it when you talk about that bitch Rachel. I should be what's on your mind.
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Umasi, I told you that your shitty list of reads were shitty. A response to that would be nice so we can make sure you don't disappoint me in the future.
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On June 06 2013 14:11 iVLosK! wrote: Umasi, I told you that your shitty list of reads were shitty. A response to that would be nice so we can make sure you don't disappoint me in the future. I don't deal with disappointment well, sometimes it results in... Lynchings.
Anyways, that's all for me tonight, folks. Work in the morning, usually work 9-10 hours, should be on around 8ish CST.
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On June 06 2013 13:54 Umasi wrote: My vote rests on you, but in light of Xzav pulling out, I'd be open to other lynch candidates. I'd 100% rather lynch you than some lurker though. This interests me, if you think I'm scum, say you think I'm scum. Don't consider other lynches "In light of Xzav pulling out." Why does Xzav have any impact on who you think is scum?
Afraid to go it alone? Keeping our options open? It appears that way to me.
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On June 06 2013 14:41 Umasi wrote: Yeah, I'm afraid to go it alone. I want to win, and I'm not confident in myself, so other people expressing doubt like that makes me feel more uneasy. I guess I have shitty reading abilities, but I'm actively trying to improve it. I'm not mindlessly tunneling you, I feel like I've tried to read what you had to say in a pro-town light, but I don't see why you are saying what you're saying. And my list may have been shitty. If so, ignore it and move on. If you don't ignore it, and it helps you achieve some understanding of the game, then it wasn't useless! If it confuses you, it was bad! So was it bad, null, or good. Did it confuse you, did you ignore it, or did it help you understand the game.
Everything you say pisses me off, and that makes me think you're mafia. It's possible you're town! There's always a possibility! It's a possibility my role pm lied! And keeping my options open is important, because someone could come and make a convincing case you are town. I'm not going to just continue tunneling you, that's STUPID. If there is a better lynch than you, I will HAPPILY VOTE IT. At this point, I think you are the best lynch, and have the highest chance of flipping mafia, according to my shit reading abilities. Your list is t shitty because its confusing. It's shitty because its scummy. Lists with like 1 sentence on each player are incredibly easy ways for mafia to appear to contribute. Most of your reads are "null." The only reason to post a bunch of null and town reads is to appear like you're doing something. You're just filling space. Find scum, or I'm not interested.
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EBWOP: Your list is NOT shitty because its confusing.
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On June 06 2013 14:44 Umasi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 13:59 iVLosK! wrote:On June 06 2013 13:54 Umasi wrote: My vote rests on you, but in light of Xzav pulling out, I'd be open to other lynch candidates. I'd 100% rather lynch you than some lurker though. "pulling out" teeheehee. Oh yeah? Well as soon as that random OMGUSer shows up, Im gonna take my vote of him and put it on you. The accumulated filth from all your badness and lack of player reading ability will foam up about your waist and you will look up and shout "Save me!" ... and I'll whisper "No." How does that make you feel? It makes me feel annoyed that you take a cocky self assured attitude, but I can't OUTWARDLY TELL WHY YOU ARE BETTER THAN ME. And before you say it's because I'm bad that I can't tell why you're better, I want you to explain it somehow. Hold my hand. If you're town, get along with a townie and hold my hand along this process. Show me your fucking godlike abilities at mafia, and I'll happily sheep, if I think it's how we will win. Why does my badness and lack of player reading ability mean that you should lynch me? Son, one thing you will learn is that I am shit at mafia.
The next thing that you will learn is that I am purposefully abrasive for the shits and giggles.
The very next thing you will learn is you should still probably listen to me, because otherwise I will lynch you into oblivion. Ask the OMGUSer with the impossible to remember username.
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Oh good, you're sticking to your guns for once.
I like that. I'll lynch you last (maybe). I might lynch you first, but I kinda like you and wouldn't mind keeping you around.
Looking at others motivations is good. Posting your own motivations without even being asked is dumb. But dumb is not scum.
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Bed time for real this time.
Austin Powers Voice: Do behave, baby.
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On June 06 2013 15:08 Onegu wrote: I think it is apperant that ivlosk is town at this point. I dont uderstand why you keep saying he is scum. I also dont get why making a list of observations is useful at this point when over half of the people havent posted yet. Like I said. It fills space and appears as contribution to the uninitiated and unobservant.
I don't address your points because there's no reason for me to. I've already spoken my piece and you weren't satisfied, no skin off my bones. I don't point you to the correct lynch because I haven't yet decided. We've really only seen a decent amount of content from 4 or 5 players and that's certainly not enough. That and, it's not my job to decide who you vote for.
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Also, as town. It's your fault you're wasting your vote on me, not mine. Quit acting like its my responsibility to ordain where your vote should lie.
I'm perfectly happy to let your vote rest on me today. Again, no skin off my bones.
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I thought that was odd, too. Incriminating me for using the word "brofists" when I wasn't even the one to bring it into the conversation was funny too.
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On June 06 2013 15:28 Umasi wrote: I'll operate under the assumption that you're town, because everyone else thinks so, and it seems like more will get done this way. oh, and before you poke fun at me for pulling off of you, let me offer this preemptive rebuttal (see the irony?) shut up and stop using stupid wordplay. fun as it is for you, it may be confusing for other people (specifically me) and that's bad.
##UNVOTE iVLosK! Word play rhymes with Thursday and thirsty, If I'm thirst-AY! I change the pronunciation of words, per se. The English language gotta do whatever my verse say.
We are like 6 hours in and that was my very first posting of rap lyrics. OMGUS would be proud.
But seriously, how am I using wordplay? Does being right count as wordplay? If that's the case, fuck, my posts are filled with wordplay.
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On June 06 2013 20:19 Skanjab1s wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 11:00 iVLosK! wrote: Who is the motherfucker who recognized me from OMGUS?
I will find you, mystery motherfucker. I'm the finger down your spine when all the lights are out. I'm the name on all the men's room walls. When I pout, the whole world tries to make me smile. And everyone always wants to know, who... is... that girl? Okay guys, listen up. I can read vloski like a Dr Seuss book. And he is without a doubt town. I've like, never been wrong about him. So, ##vote: SpicydinosaurFor all his posts being about game theory (lynching lurkers, etc.) and none of them having any intention of finding scum. You motherfucker you know who I am but I don't know who you are. I don't like that.
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If you're tweek, you have totally been wrong about me before.
My gut tells me you're WWF.
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On June 06 2013 21:25 Skanjab1s wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 21:11 iVLosK! wrote: If you're tweek, you have totally been wrong about me before.
My gut tells me you're WWF. That was the first game ever, after that I got a taste for VTK and my tastebuds dont lie. Okay so this is Tweek. Despite his aforementioned gaffe in helping to lynch a vigilante me in his first game, he has become one of the better readers of VTK. Shame no one listens to him.
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On June 06 2013 21:38 Spicydinosaur wrote:
@Skanjab1s You throw a vote on me for theory yet your only post is just to throw a vote with nothing else. Town read for now.
What is it that causes you to have a town read on Skanjab if all he's done is "throw a vote with nothing else?"
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On June 06 2013 21:48 Spicydinosaur wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 21:43 iVLosK! wrote:On June 06 2013 21:38 Spicydinosaur wrote:
@Skanjab1s You throw a vote on me for theory yet your only post is just to throw a vote with nothing else. Town read for now.
What is it that causes you to have a town read on Skanjab if all he's done is "throw a vote with nothing else?" Town read because it would be an incredibly stupid move if he were mafia. His reason for voting me is extremely weak and given his position of having 0 posts before this... it draws too much attention to him. He's not trying to blend in with the crowd and feels more akin to a new townie player than anything else. What if he was successful in lynching you? That seems a pretty good reason to come out of the fold.
Also this "mafia like to hide" shit bothers me, because you're making sweeping generalizations about what everyone does in the same situation. If all mafia acted alike this game would be super easy. Some mafia are just as in-your-face as I can be at times. And it's not just you that's said it, so don't think I'm picking on you.
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On June 06 2013 21:53 Skanjab1s wrote:Show nested quote + @Skanjab1s You throw a vote on me for theory yet your only post is just to throw a vote with nothing else. Town read for now.
Umasi comes across as a townie to me, albeit one that was gotten to by ivloski. He is one of my many conquests, you must refer to him as such. >
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On June 06 2013 16:19 Umasi wrote: That's the thing, he felt so abrasive it was hard for him to be scum, but backing down and being like "he's probably town" is annoying, because I feel like he'll bring it up again pointlessly, merely to spite me. And my gut instinct then will be to say "he's mafia!!!!" which is WRONG. And it's BAD for him to do that. regardless. The first thing was his preemptive reasoning, which I took as an excuse, and still kind of do. there's nothing for him to be afraid of if he's town, so it's kinda scummy! Might as well talk about it. When he comes back and tells us to vote on him, I couldn't think of any possible fucking reason other than "he's stirring the pot, and that's scummy." Apparently, it was to generate discussion, but I still don't know why he'd go back and bring it up again in the manner that he did. It felt like he was just drilling it in that he wasn't giving an excuse (and I still think that he FUCKING WAS, because it gives him reasoning to fall back on, and quickly assuages peoples doubts of him, but that doesn't make him mafia). When Xzav pulled off of him, I don't know why he kept poking me to go at him. That's stupid! Why would he want me to stay on him? That's....bad. It means my vote is on the wrong person. This confused me. And threatening to lynch me if my list of reads was unsatisfactory is stupid if he's done fuck all anyway.
What really makes me feel he's town though is that he says he's abrasive for shits and giggles, because it fits in with the way he'd been playing, because he never felt antagonistic, just trolly, which isn't necessarily scum.
I think that made sense.
Also, iV, me wasting my vote isn't your FAULT, but it sure as shit is your CONCERN, because you want scum lynched. Not just merely to spite you. Someone who is unsure of their convictions, just testing the waters without laying down anything concrete is probably scum. That's why I asked you to vote me. That's why I repeatedly said "If I'm scum, say I'm scum." and "Why does x's actions affect who you think is scum?"
I'm a scummy guy, it's my MO.
The manner that I did it generated exactly the discussion I wanted.
See the above.
I will still lynch you if you continue to have shitty reads.
On June 06 2013 15:51 Umasi wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 15:22 Yavanna wrote:On June 06 2013 13:01 Umasi wrote:On June 06 2013 12:58 iVLosK! wrote:On June 06 2013 12:56 Xzavier wrote: ##vote:iVlosk! Ill take this vote back when you defend yourself with logic over brofists Keep it there, then. I like my brofists. Just explain why you think what you do, why you made a preemptive excuse, and why you like your brofists. Liking brofists is BAD. Brofists are emotional. We, as town, do not want emotional. We want thought and logic. I need a little clarification on the bolded point Umasi. You are calling iV's play emotional, yet he seems to be keeping a pretty level head in this shit storm that's started up. The only emotional vibes I'm getting are from you. Are you meaning to be contradicting? I am not meaning to be emotional, what I realized is that he was stirring me up, and that's what I was referring to. For a while I felt like he was egging me, and then I realized he was DEFINITELY egging me.. but I came to the conclusion that doesn't make him mafia or town, it just makes him annoying and antagonistic. I was wrong when I thought he started the use of the word brofists, but I do not like how he ran with it. It still annoys me, because it's nothing but misdirecting to me and the main reason I had for thinking he was scum, was his stupid antagonism. That's just me being a whiny emotional bitch. The reason I've gone afk for about an hour at a time is I've been trying to cool my head, and then I get back and he posts some shit about me drowning in my own mediocrity and I think "ARE YOU FUCKING SERIOUS" So although I'd still like to lynch him, god knows I'd like to lynch him, out of spite, I've decided it's a bad idea. I originally pressured him on that stupid and inconsequential point (preemptive excuses) because I wanted to get discussion rolling, and I got overly emotional, in the face of him. I'm rambling, it's late, but I'm not tired. so I'll try to consolidate if anything is confusing.
What you're referring to is this post:
On June 06 2013 13:59 iVLosK! wrote:Show nested quote +On June 06 2013 13:54 Umasi wrote: My vote rests on you, but in light of Xzav pulling out, I'd be open to other lynch candidates. I'd 100% rather lynch you than some lurker though. "pulling out" teeheehee. Oh yeah? Well as soon as that random OMGUSer shows up, Im gonna take my vote of him and put it on you. The accumulated filth from all your badness and lack of player reading ability will foam up about your waist and you will look up and shout "Save me!" ... and I'll whisper "No." How does that make you feel? That is a reference from a movie and not something to take too seriously. I reference a lot of movies and music, the only problem is the type of people who play mafia are usually not the kind of people who get my references. If something seems out of place, only mildly relevant, or if it rhymes. Assume it's a sports reference, movie reference, or a rap lyric. Jab can testify that I post a lot of rap lyrics as a "Come at me, bro!"
If I call myself: Mista Mista Quick-ta-get-witcha chick if she got off quick, with this she be like "Yeah, Yeah, Yeah." Like "Yeah, Yeah, Yeah."
Just know that I'm probably not being serious.
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