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On May 15 2013 01:00 kushm4sta wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 00:55 Promethelax wrote: Kush, oh Kush, what do you think about people who aren't WoS? What looks like panicing from WoS? Why does panicing make someone scummy? Not sure what to think of other people because I haven't filtered anyone else. scums are more likely to panic. Panicking is indicated by posting frequency and emotionality.
What are your first impressions of other players?
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On May 15 2013 01:04 WaveofShadow wrote: I'm pretty sure I'm L-4, but who's counting?
I'd bet this has something to do with Oats' having his vote stolen. He voted you with his in thread vote but if he was telling the truth about his vote being stolen you'd be at L-5 since his vote is not actually on you.
Oats, for my sake unvote WoS and vote for me. Leave it there for at least until the next vote count.
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On May 15 2013 06:01 VayneAuthority wrote: what are the chances of there being a fool in this game with so many self voters? or is that just a thing on this forum?
This is actually a surprisingly good point. While it is rare for us to use the role (we usually call it a Jester) this is an Ace themed game and there could be a guy present who wins by being lynched. Since we don't know that to be the case though I think we have to play as though it isn't fact. Putting a guy who wants to be lynched into a game where no one knows he exists is pretty shitty. Its easy to get lynched. Even if there is a jester in the game it will be of the win alone but game continues type, not the game over jester wins type. Oh, I see Hiro said this. Bah.
Fuck I think its likely that OO is scum and want him lynched for that. Everyone stop with this policy crap though. Either vote OO because you think he is likely to flip scum or do not vote OO. There is not a third option.
OO, finding yourself in endgame with Grush and anyone is a townie dream come true. You know with 100% certainty who the last scum is and you only have to convince Grush. Seriously, what the fuck is wrong with you? If I thought this was your town play we'd be having words later.
VE, you around? I want someone to talk to whose opinions are worth something. And what I said about Vayne still holds true ongoing game blah blah but it'll be done in under 24 hours. Why do you think you can push his lynch through today when I have already told you that I oppose it?
Vayne, I have both a meta and currentgame town read on prplhz. Your arguments have done nothing to convince me of his guilt and his responses to you make him more townie. Change your vote to someone who might actually flip scum.
prp and SnB, I rather like your respective cases on Hiro and Oats.
prp: I don't have the history with Hiro to back it up though, Rockband is one of the few games played since I joined the forum which I didn't read. Could you elaborate on the connections you see between Hiro here and scumHiro there? Your gut read doesn't help me because I don't share it.
SnB: why is it that you disagree with the town tell I have brought up about Oats? How much have you played with him before? The kid is a bit all over the place, though I love him he ccan be an idiot and the 180s and calling out his own scumminess are both present in his town games as well as his scum games.
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We have, as of the time of this post, 4 hours until deadline. Consolidation time people.
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but I'm not talking about his activity, its about his scum hunting methods here compared to his ongoing game in which his alignment is [REDACTED] I believe a comparison of his methods here and there suggest that he is town here. I can't say if I think he is matching his town methods or not matching his scum methods due to ongoing game but I think it is worth looking at that ongoing game and thinking about what he has shown in both games, the similarities and the differences.
Now, if you insist on lynching a town read day one I think Vayne is one of the least helpful of them all and wouldn't be terribly sad to see him die however I'd still much rather watch scum swing. I really think that OO is a better lynch based on my early points and also his fucking martyring (which is more of a policy than a scum tell, to be fair). And, if you insist on lynching a town read I'd rather you did something straight stupid like lynch WoS for information or something where I could understand the theory behind it even while yelling at you that you are dumb.
What I'm saying is Vayne is 1. probably town and 2. kinda dumb. Also 3. I wouldn't even find it funny if he got lynched, just pathetic. I get that you hate his playstyle; join the club. But, as Mafia Scum dot net has taught me, having a terrible playstyle doesn't mean you are scum it just means that you are bad.
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Kinda case thing on OO (fuck you VE, I hate writing cases):
1. Early defensiveness brought up by DP (not a thing I think is a huge tell but it is different from his usual town game) 2. Eagerly explains a reason for the nightkill which no one had thought of in thread previously (I think this is a strong tell, others clearly disagree with me, Chaoser in particular) 3. Martyring and promises for future contribution at the same time (Martyring is policy lynch. Martyrig while saying "if you leave me alive I'll be useful I promise" is a scum tell since he is begging to be left alive his martyring is false. False martyring comes from scum).
My only major problem with my lynch on him is actually the wagon which has formed behind me. Hiro's vote felt eh and Rayn's only felt a little better. BH is only there for policy. The discussion has all been around WoS/Oats and I was waiting for him to come back to the thread for me to really push him since pushing afk players is both boring and somewhat useless. We have four hours though, lets discuss him now.
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On May 15 2013 09:06 VayneAuthority wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 09:03 Promethelax wrote: but I'm not talking about his activity, its about his scum hunting methods here compared to his ongoing game in which his alignment is [REDACTED] I believe a comparison of his methods here and there suggest that he is town here. I can't say if I think he is matching his town methods or not matching his scum methods due to ongoing game but I think it is worth looking at that ongoing game and thinking about what he has shown in both games, the similarities and the differences.
Now, if you insist on lynching a town read day one I think Vayne is one of the least helpful of them all and wouldn't be terribly sad to see him die however I'd still much rather watch scum swing. I really think that OO is a better lynch based on my early points and also his fucking martyring (which is more of a policy than a scum tell, to be fair). And, if you insist on lynching a town read I'd rather you did something straight stupid like lynch WoS for information or something where I could understand the theory behind it even while yelling at you that you are dumb.
What I'm saying is Vayne is 1. probably town and 2. kinda dumb. Also 3. I wouldn't even find it funny if he got lynched, just pathetic. I get that you hate his playstyle; join the club. But, as Mafia Scum dot net has taught me, having a terrible playstyle doesn't mean you are scum it just means that you are bad. and posts like this irritate me. If you guys are just gonna circlejerk all day and call me bad when frankly I have way more years of experience than most here then just fuckin' kill me already because its obnoxious as hell. A playstyle difference doesnt make you guys any better so stop jerking eachother off and get to the point.
Look bud, you want to talk experience go ahead but you are self admittedly bad while in my most recent game I pushed a day one scum lynch and manged to fight the entire thread into lynching said scum after reversing my tunnel on a townie which had almost lead to said townie getting lynched. I'm better than you. Get over it.
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Its like you want me to hate you.
Look, you may have been playing mafia for longer than me. Congratulations? You've probably been masturbating for longer than me too, that doesn't make you better at it.
What I am telling you is I have a history of catching scum and getting night killed. If you can say the same about yourself, fine I'll retract my comment about you being bad. If you want to talk about this post game when we can all be friends again I'll apologize. For now my analysis on you comes from my understanding of your play, if you are way better than I think you are please inform me of that and prove it by giving me some examples from your recent games.
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yeah, I'm done talking to Vayne.
VE you still around? I wanna talk to someone who doesn't make me want to punch myself in the face.
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So what town motivations do you see in his martyring and asking to be kept alive? The hypocrisy is strong with this one. I don't believe I have ever seen a townie do that.
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On May 15 2013 09:26 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On May 15 2013 09:25 VayneAuthority wrote:On May 15 2013 09:23 Promethelax wrote: yeah, I'm done talking to Vayne.
VE you still around? I wanna talk to someone who doesn't make me want to punch myself in the face. glad to see your still an immature piece of shit, guess your balls have to drop first I hope you appreciate the irony of this statement.
VE, hold me, I'm laughing too hard.
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You aren't a regular townie though. You are a magic card. And I can't even find the damn magic card, do you know how many random images from various mafia games pop up on google when I look for "Visceraeyes mtg"
Grush, what do you think about the lead votees?
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On May 15 2013 09:43 VisceraEyes wrote: It's in my profile bra.
Why did I just go skim through all of magic: mini!?!?!!?
Although I did find a picture of Katina which applies well to Vayne's interactions with me. Can you guess which one?
Hrio: da fuk?? We're lynching someone. We'd better be. No-lynch is fucking stupid. Tell me who you do want to lynch not who you don't want to lynch.
Grush: which of OO/Vayne is more scum and why?
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On May 15 2013 09:47 WaveofShadow wrote: Ohai guise. Vayne don't let elitist attitudes get you down, this is TL. You may want to watch the blatant insults though; that kind of thing will definitely get you banned depending on the host. I seem to recall you being similarly abrasive on the LoL subforum though I'm not sure why I remember that.
For the record I'm fairly sure you're town and don't feel comfortable voting for you today. If you find people are calling you bad based on your playstyle and it gets you lynched, whether here or elsewhere, it probably means you should change it to fit the area (or people) you're playing with since lynching/getting lynched is a population-dependent process. It doesn't necessarily mean your play is objectively bad.
Aaaaaaanyway, gonna read into OO I guess? Any other suggestions? I think I remember calling prplhz town; I'll recheck that too.
Probably best to look into Vayne (I'm pretty sure he is town but don't take my word on it). Look into Rayn, Oats, prp and Hiro I guess? We need a lynch and we need some consolidation.
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OO you begged to be left alive by promising future content if you weren't lynched. It wasn't totally direct, obviously, but that to me reads as scum trying to live, not town who is fed up.
No matter your alignment and assuming you aren't lying: I'm sorry my tone bothers you. We can talk about it post game. I don't mean to make anyone rage (besides scum). I'm not going to change who I am though.
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oh thank fuck, BH, VE and me all here at once finally. (RoL would kill himself)
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