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On March 16 2013 12:40 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 12:33 Vivax wrote: Kill marv.
Currently just scum in the thread so ignore the case against stutters. He did something stupid but isnt scum unlike these other guys. I probably agree with you on Stutters. Have to reevaluate Marv before doing anything of the kind. Him being alive might be because of DI.
That thing about DI is actually true. Marv being alive isn't doesn't actually look as bad as I thought it does.
But you really need to read my case on stutters. It is actually good.
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Ok. Stutters is not lynchbait. He is actually doing a really good job of flying under the radar and not getting himself into arguments.
Lynchbait do obviously stupid stuff which scum try and lynch them for. Things like Yamato's Vig shot would be lynch bait IMO. Stutters does not. He does what he needs to to not be looked at but doesn't actually contribute much.
A good comparison would be Djodref from Mario Mini. He looked to be actively contributing, was doing enough to be called town but was actually contributing nothing and was so fucused on one small thing the whole time hid it really well.
Also I don;t care about the sleeper cell thing. That could actually be a genuine power or not. A townie could have chosen him and he just told the truth or not. That is not integral to my case. The case is that stutters has done nothing but has done it so well that he is successfully flying under the radar.
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On March 16 2013 20:11 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 19:23 risk.nuke wrote: Marv, you claimed a parity check on Ver-Foolish. What does that say now. just for balance reasons alone DP has to be mafia but i don't think i'm gonna get town to lynch on that
GTFO. seriously.
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The way that the "Vet's" have played vet balance is a joke and complete bollocks besides.
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On March 16 2013 20:07 yamato77 wrote: Stutters always does nothing, dude.
ALWAYS.
Yeha when stutters actually does nothing he get's modkilled for inactivity. Stutters isn't doing nothing. He is flying under the radar. that is doing something.
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On March 16 2013 20:14 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 20:13 DarthPunk wrote: The way that the "Vet's" have played vet balance is a joke and complete bollocks besides. find me a normal game ever that doesn't have one or two vets on the scumteam and then tell me it's bollocks thanks
So Ver is the only 'vet' other than foolishness? everyone knows you are at least as good as foolishness/ver ever was and there are lots of other very very good players in the game.
Also I KNOW it's bollocks because I KNOW the game was balanced like that.
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Acro, Hiro, prplz, you, austin, risk.nuke if they even took it into account.
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On March 16 2013 20:18 marvellosity wrote: you also have no idea how the game is balanced.
And you do?
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On March 16 2013 20:19 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 20:19 DarthPunk wrote:On March 16 2013 20:18 marvellosity wrote: you also have no idea how the game is balanced. And you do? I know that kita will not tell you how the game was balanced or setup. Why don't you ask a green question in thread hmm? How do you KNOW how the game was balanced? Explain this to me.
I DON"T I was arguing against YOU Knowing. the only way I know it wasn't balanced how you were implying is that I know ver's alignment.
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On March 16 2013 20:24 marvellosity wrote: I don't think Stutters is mafia tho
Obviously. If you think I am mafia.
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On March 16 2013 23:15 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 20:33 DarthPunk wrote:On March 16 2013 20:24 marvellosity wrote: I don't think Stutters is mafia tho Obviously. If you think I am mafia. No, go read my post from last night, and read about what other ppl said about his vigi thing. It seems more townie. The fact that both you and slOosh are pushing Stutters makes me think it's pretty likely he's town.
the vig thing could have happened to him as scum/town. So that shouldn't make any difference to a read on him. And tat is why I ignored it.
further, you are making associations before flips with at least one person whom you are wrong about (me) and the only stated reason that you have is that I am scum because "hurr durr vet balance." or that you 'don't like' my posts
Seriously you keep implying that I am scum with nothing behind it. Why don't you either make a case on me or drop it and make a case on whoever it is you want to lynch.
I am having a really hard time reading you right now because I am torn between you just playing really really badly which is not something I would expect or that you are scum with a giant filter and few slip ups. The thing is though I read a lot of that game in which you were scum with ZB and you had an enormous filter in that game. And that was a mini.
So please do something. pursue your largest scum read. It is really important for town to be able to read your alignment right now. Probably the most important thing period.
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inb4 you tell me not to tell you what to do. View it as a request at your convenience if you prefer.
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On March 16 2013 23:35 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 23:26 DarthPunk wrote:On March 16 2013 23:15 marvellosity wrote:On March 16 2013 20:33 DarthPunk wrote:On March 16 2013 20:24 marvellosity wrote: I don't think Stutters is mafia tho Obviously. If you think I am mafia. No, go read my post from last night, and read about what other ppl said about his vigi thing. It seems more townie. The fact that both you and slOosh are pushing Stutters makes me think it's pretty likely he's town. the vig thing could have happened to him as scum/town. So that shouldn't make any difference to a read on him. And tat is why I ignored it. further, you are making associations before flips with at least one person whom you are wrong about (me) and the only stated reason that you have is that I am scum because "hurr durr vet balance." or that you 'don't like' my posts Seriously you keep implying that I am scum with nothing behind it. Why don't you either make a case on me or drop it and make a case on whoever it is you want to lynch. I am having a really hard time reading you right now because I am torn between you just playing really really badly which is not something I would expect or that you are scum with a giant filter and few slip ups. The thing is though I read a lot of that game in which you were scum with ZB and you had an enormous filter in that game. And that was a mini. So please do something. pursue your largest scum read. It is really important for town to be able to read your alignment right now. Probably the most important thing period. If you want to read my alignment, you should have done so already. Go back to those posts I made in response to Foolishness, and tell me if they were unnatural or if I twisted anything in there, because I'm pretty damn sure I didn't. Don't compare a 20 page filter in 5 days to a 35 page filter after 2 either, please. The only blight on my alignment is the fact that I was wrong about Foolishness, so if you can genuinely read those posts I made in response to him as faked and my reasoning was wrong, then call me mafia. Otherwise there's nothing.
You and I both know that things changed after foolishness flipped green. especially after all that shit flinging between you two. You may think that your filter and alignment is easy to read but it really isn't. that fight with foolishness was about as enlightening as a quagmire. You will do what you want. And that is fine. But I request a case on who you think is mafia to make things easier.
Like it or not the reality is that you are as much of a question mark as I am to several people.
you have to be realistic.
bed time.
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If you want anyone to listen to you, ever. You need to post more explanation than two links and then declaring marv is town.
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On March 16 2013 23:46 marvellosity wrote: I am being realistic, go do what I say and come back to me.
don't tell me what to do. I will just ignore you unless I actually want to do it. Also I have read your filter. It was a nightmare. And I am still pretty worried about you.
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On March 16 2013 23:48 marvellosity wrote:ok, DP. Here's why you're mafia. Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 01:43 DarthPunk wrote: Hey marv. I am not going to get through everything I need to and as it's 4am I am rather tired. Could you be a dear and link me your case on foolishness and the main rebuttal? Show nested quote +On March 15 2013 01:56 DarthPunk wrote: That was really easy once I found the relevant posts.
##Vote: Foolishness Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 23:44 DarthPunk wrote:
You and I both know that things changed after foolishness flipped green. especially after all that shit flinging between you two. You may think that your filter and alignment is easy to read but it really isn't. that fight with foolishness was about as enlightening as a quagmire. You will do what you want. And that is fine. But I request a case on who you think is mafia to make things easier.
Like it or not the reality is that you are as much of a question mark as I am to several people.
you have to be realistic.
bed time.
Because I sheeped you after being in the game for three hours? and have now stopped blindly sheeping you after being far more well informed? I don't know about you but that seems totally reasonable to me and in no way says anything about me being mafia. You should know that and I do know that. It's 2 am i'm closing everything. Feel free to post as much as you want on why I am scum i'll get back to you tomorrow.
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On March 16 2013 23:49 marvellosity wrote: ##Vote: DarthPunk
You are playing really badly or are scum. Nice case. Night!
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On March 16 2013 23:55 Oatsmaster wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 23:47 DarthPunk wrote:If you want anyone to listen to you, ever. You need to post more explanation than two links and then declaring marv is town. You clearly didnt read the games. Now go back, read both filters and tell me that he is the same alignment. Go on.
I am not going to read two filters that is a ridiculous ask. Just a short summary with some relevant examples would be nice.
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On March 16 2013 23:56 marvellosity wrote: Just to make it clear in 2 bullet points
- yesterday DP read the posts on Foolish and found them so convincing that it was so easy to vote for him - today he finds them as enlightening as a quagmire
No.
If you want the truth. The reason it was so easy is because the opposing cop checked was mentioned in something I read. And I did not yet know that you had to declare it until I read through a heap more things. I had been in the game 3 hours at that point but when someone says opposing cop checks and you are town it suddenly becomes really easy.
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