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On March 14 2013 00:22 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 00:21 Crossfire99 wrote:On March 14 2013 00:19 Vivax wrote: This is fruity mafia risk. 2 Pages of filter, talks about irrelevant stuff. Attacks Acrofales on the assumption that yamato is town.
Also yeah the shot on marv was fake. I announced I got a power today, just like Foolish and Crossfire did and marv knows it. Who said anything about me getting a power today? Scumslip. He and foolish both scum. um, if Vivax is scum and you're town, how would he know you got a power, if you did? how is that a scumslip? Foolish never claimed being given a nuke. How could vivax have known that either foolish or I got a nuke if we did? Neither of us said anything in thread, yet he instantly assumes that both of us were given the nukes to use. That means he is in secret communication with one of us because I know that I received the nuke last night to use. (He could have also been the one to give the nukes but why would he give the nuke to me who he would lynch today.) Yeah that requires an assumption that foolish got his nuke like I did, but I already think he's scum and I know I'm town (and not in secret communication with vivax). Whatever it's not a 100% scum claim that everyone can know. But knowing what I know, I know that foolish and vivax are scum together. It's the only thing that makes sense. That's not as 100% objective as I'd like as I now realize typing it out, but meh. I still think it's the most likely scenario.
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Do you not trust the nukes, Hiro? Especially after that message?
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Marv, what's making you doubt vivax being scum?
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On March 14 2013 01:19 marvellosity wrote: Crossfire why wouldn't you nuke Vivax? *sigh* If we lynch him, he dies. If I nuke him and it's real, he dies. What's the difference?
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On March 14 2013 03:34 slOosh wrote: Sup dudes, caller here. Oh wat?
The Plan Give various people NUKEs. Two reasons a) See how people use it. Do they treat it carefully? Do they trust it? Do they just shoot whatever? b) If multiple scum members received it, there will be information leak. They know that multiple NUKEs were given. Information pump yea? c) My last night post was designed in a way where it seemed like they had to fire the NUKEs or it blows up on themselves. Dunno how well this worked or not, but there is more information if people use it rather than if people don't. d) I have ANTI NUKE countermeasures so it doesn't matter if I hand them to scum - in fact it is better because we see true motives come out. e) (for him who knows) You town. I'm glad.
I'm saying this all now because enough information has passed and we need time to properly look over it (I'm still doing it myself).
p.s. Vivax please cut back on the spam. I understand where you are coming from, I really do, but it is disrupting what we are doing here. The way that marv is handling this NUKE business is one of the most sensible of the lot. Leave him alone for this day cycle please. Are the nukes real? If you have anti nuke countermeasures you probably want to use them on foolish's and vivax's nukes. Also, point c worked cause that's why I didn't wait to fire until another day.
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Acro, I would switch to cora, but I am also comfortable with Vivax dying, so I have no real preference as long as one of them dies.
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On March 14 2013 03:40 slOosh wrote: If you honestly think I ruined it I apologize, but I think I brought about a wealth of useful information.
I have ANTI NUKE countermeasures. Proper discussion of player behavior and actions and justification does not require me to explain further.
Deciding who to lynch of course does, so I'll explain clearly at like, midday or something. Just tell us if they're real so we can let foolish die from my nuke or lynch him instead if they're fake like marv wants to do.
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On March 14 2013 03:42 slOosh wrote: Ah mah gash so much information.
Crossfire, explain clearly what you thought when you received your NUKE and the thought process leading up to deciding how to use it. I figured you were planning on killing me today with your post earlier, so I knew I had to use the nuke before you did something to me. Foolish was my top scum read, plus I saw that he nuked yamato who I believe is town. I also saw that people seemed to be just voting foolish because everyone knew he had to die, so I figured I would help everyone out by nuking scum. This will allow us to lynch another scum and have better discussion.
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On March 14 2013 03:48 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 03:46 Acrofales wrote:On March 14 2013 03:41 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2013 03:40 slOosh wrote: If you honestly think I ruined it I apologize, but I think I brought about a wealth of useful information.
I have ANTI NUKE countermeasures. Proper discussion of player behavior and actions and justification does not require me to explain further.
Deciding who to lynch of course does, so I'll explain clearly at like, midday or something. So to clarify again, all the nukes are real but you can cancel whichever you choose? This. Please state clearly: you can choose which nukes are going to land and kill their target? Can you cancel just one? Or any number of them? If you don't cancel, will they kill their target? lol. Talk about the people who used the NUKEs and how they responded. I already said multiple times I'll explain, so you don't have to worry about voting stuff, and I don't see how knowing more helps anyone but scum in forming their plan. Also, Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 22:47 Acrofales wrote: So if the nuke is real, then Yamato dies at the end of the cycle. I think we should leave Foolishness for tomorrow: I see no reason for scum to nuke a scumbuddy right now. If Yamato flips red, then Foolishness is probably town.
How does this make sense? Sloosh if the nukes are real, why give them to scummy people like me, vivax, and foolish. Most likely it will be a waste, e.g. vivax and foolish nukes. Why not give them to top town reads and use them to kill scum? You obviously aren't afraid of bad decisions because you have countermeasures, so why not try to kill 3 scum by giving them to good townreads?
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On March 14 2013 03:52 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 03:48 slOosh wrote:On March 14 2013 03:46 Acrofales wrote:On March 14 2013 03:41 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2013 03:40 slOosh wrote: If you honestly think I ruined it I apologize, but I think I brought about a wealth of useful information.
I have ANTI NUKE countermeasures. Proper discussion of player behavior and actions and justification does not require me to explain further.
Deciding who to lynch of course does, so I'll explain clearly at like, midday or something. So to clarify again, all the nukes are real but you can cancel whichever you choose? This. Please state clearly: you can choose which nukes are going to land and kill their target? Can you cancel just one? Or any number of them? If you don't cancel, will they kill their target? lol. Talk about the people who used the NUKEs and how they responded. I already said multiple times I'll explain, so you don't have to worry about voting stuff, and I don't see how knowing more helps anyone but scum in forming their plan. Also, On March 13 2013 22:47 Acrofales wrote: So if the nuke is real, then Yamato dies at the end of the cycle. I think we should leave Foolishness for tomorrow: I see no reason for scum to nuke a scumbuddy right now. If Yamato flips red, then Foolishness is probably town.
How does this make sense? If yamato is scum, then why would foolish have nuked him? It would be a monumentously stupid thing to do as scum. So if yamato is scum, foolishness isn't. It really is that simple. Pretty much, especially if they could have forced a mislynch today because they'd still have 3 kp tonight.
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On March 14 2013 03:55 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 03:52 Acrofales wrote:On March 14 2013 03:48 slOosh wrote:On March 14 2013 03:46 Acrofales wrote:On March 14 2013 03:41 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2013 03:40 slOosh wrote: If you honestly think I ruined it I apologize, but I think I brought about a wealth of useful information.
I have ANTI NUKE countermeasures. Proper discussion of player behavior and actions and justification does not require me to explain further.
Deciding who to lynch of course does, so I'll explain clearly at like, midday or something. So to clarify again, all the nukes are real but you can cancel whichever you choose? This. Please state clearly: you can choose which nukes are going to land and kill their target? Can you cancel just one? Or any number of them? If you don't cancel, will they kill their target? lol. Talk about the people who used the NUKEs and how they responded. I already said multiple times I'll explain, so you don't have to worry about voting stuff, and I don't see how knowing more helps anyone but scum in forming their plan. Also, On March 13 2013 22:47 Acrofales wrote: So if the nuke is real, then Yamato dies at the end of the cycle. I think we should leave Foolishness for tomorrow: I see no reason for scum to nuke a scumbuddy right now. If Yamato flips red, then Foolishness is probably town.
How does this make sense? If yamato is scum, then why would foolish have nuked him? It would be a monumentously stupid thing to do as scum. So if yamato is scum, foolishness isn't. It really is that simple. Why wouldn't you lynch Foolishness today? BECAUSE HE'S GETTING NUKED
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On March 14 2013 03:57 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 03:51 slOosh wrote:On March 14 2013 03:47 austinmcc wrote: slOosh, if you want to go ahead and play the game, I'd like to know what you think about strongandbig.
If the person who is controlling prplhz's vote is town and can say so without giving away a ton of information, then that person should state that they're responsible for the vote. Vote controlling not the most townie looking action, and this is information that would be important in figuring some things out. Politician is in no way a town move unless you intentionally take a scum's vote to decide a close lynch. Clearly the way that it was used today was not that. I'll give you a blurb on my thoughts on SnB soon but I'd rather focus on the NUKErs the NUKEees and surrounding conversation. Right, I'm trying to rule out the possibility that it was town, or compulsive, or whatever stupid non-scum explanations there are. If nobody comes out of the woodwork, it's most likely a scum politician, and it means vivax is more likely to be town. I hate that conclusion (and the thought of Vivax being alive and in thread for longer), and the whole bit where SOMEONE'S VOTE WAS STOLEN got lost in all the other stuff. Not necessarily true. WIFOM is always a possibility.
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On March 14 2013 03:59 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 13 2013 22:47 Acrofales wrote: So if the nuke is real, then Yamato dies at the end of the cycle. I think we should leave Foolishness for tomorrow: I see no reason for scum to nuke a scumbuddy right now. If Yamato flips red, then Foolishness is probably town.
I'm glad I can read the thread. People - is this a scumslip or people who can't read? Dude it's like a minute after my post. He probably didn't refresh.
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On March 14 2013 04:01 slOosh wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 04:00 Crossfire99 wrote:On March 14 2013 03:59 slOosh wrote:On March 13 2013 22:47 Acrofales wrote: So if the nuke is real, then Yamato dies at the end of the cycle. I think we should leave Foolishness for tomorrow: I see no reason for scum to nuke a scumbuddy right now. If Yamato flips red, then Foolishness is probably town.
On March 13 2013 23:46 Crossfire99 wrote: ##NUKE: Foolishness
I'm glad I can read the thread. People - is this a scumslip or people who can't read? Dude it's like a minute after my post. He probably didn't refresh. That makes absolutely no sense and you need to spend more time reading. There is an hour gap between the two posts, and you can't gain information by not refreshing. He assumed that Foolishness will be NUKED before it was posted that he would be NUKED. Sorry, I misread the number 2. Uh...yeah you're not reading either. He never assumed that at all. he's saying it makes no sense for foolish and yamato to be the same alignment because foolish nuked yamato.
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On March 14 2013 04:08 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 03:47 austinmcc wrote:On March 14 2013 03:41 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2013 03:40 slOosh wrote: If you honestly think I ruined it I apologize, but I think I brought about a wealth of useful information.
I have ANTI NUKE countermeasures. Proper discussion of player behavior and actions and justification does not require me to explain further.
Deciding who to lynch of course does, so I'll explain clearly at like, midday or something. So to clarify again, all the nukes are real but you can cancel whichever you choose? I think you are town. I also think you should stop fishing for role information. If DI is a medic and protecting you in some non-normal way, he shouldn't be spelling out what's up. Don't ask him. how about you don't tell me how to play ever again. deal? Until slOosh explains exactly what's going in with nukes, I don't see much point in engaging with him. He's made what is quite clearly an anti-town move in giving nukes to volatile, lurky, or suspicious players. If slOosh genuinely had KP to give out, why wasn't he giving it out to his strongest townreads? I know slOosh respects my judgement, why wouldn't he give me a KP to kill mafia with? This whole plan stinks, and his inability just to say "yes" to my clarification is very concerning indeed. Agreed. Sloosh you gotta answer this now. You obviously claimed everything and aren't afraid of the nukes, so just explain now. Seriously.
On March 14 2013 03:52 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 03:48 slOosh wrote:On March 14 2013 03:46 Acrofales wrote:On March 14 2013 03:41 marvellosity wrote:On March 14 2013 03:40 slOosh wrote: If you honestly think I ruined it I apologize, but I think I brought about a wealth of useful information.
I have ANTI NUKE countermeasures. Proper discussion of player behavior and actions and justification does not require me to explain further.
Deciding who to lynch of course does, so I'll explain clearly at like, midday or something. So to clarify again, all the nukes are real but you can cancel whichever you choose? This. Please state clearly: you can choose which nukes are going to land and kill their target? Can you cancel just one? Or any number of them? If you don't cancel, will they kill their target? lol. Talk about the people who used the NUKEs and how they responded. I already said multiple times I'll explain, so you don't have to worry about voting stuff, and I don't see how knowing more helps anyone but scum in forming their plan. Also, On March 13 2013 22:47 Acrofales wrote: So if the nuke is real, then Yamato dies at the end of the cycle. I think we should leave Foolishness for tomorrow: I see no reason for scum to nuke a scumbuddy right now. If Yamato flips red, then Foolishness is probably town.
How does this make sense? Sloosh if the nukes are real, why give them to scummy people like me, vivax, and foolish. Most likely it will be a waste, e.g. vivax and foolish nukes. Why not give them to top town reads and use them to kill scum? You obviously aren't afraid of bad decisions because you have countermeasures, so why not try to kill 3 scum by giving them to good townreads?
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Man, I really wish they were real, so foolish would die. I'm now also willing to lynch foolish.
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On March 14 2013 04:18 Crossfire99 wrote: Man, I really wish they were real, so foolish would die. I'm now also willing to lynch foolish. Assuming that sloosh actually had countermeasures lol, otherwise it would be terrible.
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This game...seriously...supersoft...wtf + Show Spoiler +
Don't listen to supersoft. Ugh. Lynch foolish. I'm actually pissed right now. I know I played bad earlier, but seriously...
I'm gonna attack part of foolish's "case" cause I don't have time to do the whole thing, but it doesn't really matter. I'll get my point across. Responses in the quote are blue.
On March 14 2013 08:07 Foolishness wrote:Okay this really needs to be my last post for a while cause I have a research paper due tomorrow. I will try to explain everything here. To make it easier for the people who have trouble reading I have decided to keep the analysis in a simple Q&A format. Okay, it's definitely clear that yamato77 is mafia, but what of your other reads?I will talk about marvellosity in a bit. After the nuke incident I believe that Crossfire is mafia. His nuke against me was an incredibly rash thing to do, especially after people in the thread were saying to hold off on killing me one more day (the same people who include a mod-confirmed townie). It makes sense from a mafia perspective. I just nuked one of their teammates so they are screwed, since dodging a nuke is near-impossible. They see this and realize that I'm on the right track in figuring them out (say for example I'm correct about marvellosity) so they nuke me immediately to prevent me from causing further damage. I myself, as mafia in past games, have done this many times. Some person comes out in the thread and kills a teammate or posts a big analysis that's very bad for our team, I shoot them immediately to stop them from doing further damage. Also consider the fact that crossfire was in no danger of getting killed at the moment. If he was about to get lynched I can see sending out a nuke as a last ditch effort to survive or make something happen (hey I just kinda did it, though my motivation is way different). It was completely out of the blue, just as yamato's day vigi was completely out of the blue. Yeah you obviously aren't reading the thread where I explained I thought sloosh was going to kill me...+ Show Spoiler +On March 14 2013 03:47 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 14 2013 03:42 slOosh wrote: Ah mah gash so much information.
Crossfire, explain clearly what you thought when you received your NUKE and the thought process leading up to deciding how to use it. I figured you were planning on killing me today with your post earlier, so I knew I had to use the nuke before you did something to me. Foolish was my top scum read, plus I saw that he nuked yamato who I believe is town. I also saw that people seemed to be just voting foolish because everyone knew he had to die, so I figured I would help everyone out by nuking scum. This will allow us to lynch another scum and have better discussion. I analyzed this guy day 1 but didn't come up with anything conclusive. On one hand he hadn't done anything to exhibit being mafia, but nothing striking to say he was for sure town either. With his nuke shot we now know where his agenda is and what side of the town he's on. I brought up some of his posts before; I would like to reemphasize a few of them now to build the case stronger: Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 12:22 Crossfire99 wrote: So I'm off to bed. It sucks wbg wasn't scum and was just a survivor, but it helps. I'll have to take a more thorough look at some people tomorrow when I have time. He made this post after wbg flipped. I find this post incredibly unnatural and forced. He knew he needed to post something but wasn't sure what, so he says something incredibly generic that adds nothing of value that everyone already knew. It was just a fluff post. Townies don't make fluff posts.Watch out there, pot, it looks like you're calling the kettle black. + Show Spoiler +On March 11 2013 13:14 Foolishness wrote:And it is so on this brightest of white days that I stroll into Personality Town. I clutch the assignment paper in my pocket as I walk into the main parts of the town. The paper that was handed to me not moments ago from the gate guard Greymist. Though I had arrived late to the town, I had already knew exactly where I was proceeding to; a destination known, but not known for I had only just arrived and getting my bearings down would take some effort. But on the right side of the street I came across a wonderful grove; full of vibrant trees that radiated through the yard. I stopped for a moment to take in the scene. I was not the only one so moved by the scenery, as many people buzzed through their way through the many trees. Not a minute had passed before a fine gentleman approached the grove as well. Though I gave him no inclination to, he stood beside me and struck up conversation. "They are cherry pickers you see," he said, pointing at the people wandering in and out of the grove. "Cherry pickers?" I asked. "Yes," BloodyC0bbler replied. "But they only pick cherries. Ask them to pick from the apple trees, and you will be met with resistance." "That must make it difficult to accomplish anything." "Aye. You best be moving on. If you stare too long you too will succumb to the ripe taste of the cherry. And then we will have lost another soul." "But what about you?" I questioned him. "I am the shepherd of these people. It is my job to lead them down the path of the scumhunt; to steer them away from the cherry trees. They are my responsibility." Without another word I departed the poor man and made my way down the street. And I wondered about the shepherd as I walked. Surely his cause is noble, but is that all there is too it? For a few minutes I pondered this question as I walked, until I came across a man sitting on a bench. "Excuse me," I asked the man, "could you tell me where I can find the house of Vivax?" "Ahhh, the house of Vivax you say? Well I could not know where anything is in this town. You see I am blind, and I have not interest where anything is in this town during my stay," Ver replied. "Blind?!?!" I was shocked at this finding. "But how can you possibly hope to accomplish anything?" "Oh ho ho sir! You only think to see with your eyes. But you have other senses with which you can see. You must learn to use all your senses in this town, not just what you see with your eyes. And then you will see! You will see that there is much to learn from your other sense. Why I have learned so much in this short time without my eyes. Sometimes, your eyes bias your mind, and you see things that are not really there. You only see them because your mind wants to. I do not have such issues. And thus, what I see is truly......pure." Truly pure. I was at a loss for words from his short speech. What could I say to that? I gave a quick goodbye and went on my way, pondering his vision about seeing; seeing what is right in front of you, seeing without your eyes. Was I seeing things that weren't really there? Was I just seeing them because my mind wanted to see them? I ducked into a coffee shop and parked myself at a table. I looked back through notes of the case. Except this time, I did not read with my eyes, but I read with my mind. And I saw something different this time. I saw what couldn't be seen with my eyes. I saw exactly what I needed to see. It was beyond what I saw the first time, the first time with my eyes. I saw a depth that was previously not there. I saw all the motivation (or lack of it), all of the ineptitude, all through a hidden agenda. It was...pure. With the knowledge of my mind lingering in my head, I packed up my things and continued on my way; destination in hand, more determined than ever. ##Vote: Vivax + Show Spoiler + On March 11 2013 13:26 Foolishness wrote:Do you read with your eyes, or do you read with your mind? + Show Spoiler + On March 14 2013 05:36 Foolishness wrote: I sneakily crept through the second story window. It was a difficult maneuver, having previously gotten to the roof and needing to hang off the ledge to get access inside. But it was always a favorable choice; people always expect break-ins to be on the first floor. I was above and beyond that.
I took a moment to take in my surroundings. I was in a guest bedroom, the neatness of the scene made that apparent. From looking into the first floor before my entry it was quite apparent that the boss was not a tidy person. Though I did not expect him to be, one who is so conceited and selfish need not care about public perception and generally perceived "good" qualities. I approached the door to the bedroom, and stopped for a few minutes to listen. I could faintly hear music off in the background but it seemed eons away. There did not seem to be any movement so I slowly turned the knob to open the door.
"SCREEEEK!" the door screamed back at me. I halted in my tracks, hand still on the knob as I listened. Faint music could still be heard but my mind was not processing it, I was only listening to the noises that mattered. After it was clear that was no disturbance I took a deep breath and pulled on the door once more. Luckily the door stayed silent this time, and I made a wide enough gap for me to slip through.
The hallway was dark, not that that was unexpected. There was a faint light radiating across the carpet a distance ahead. As I moved towards it, the music grew in volume but my mind was not listening to it. I stopped at an intersection and waited before proceeding. Again there were no disturbances. I turned to the right and proceeded down my path. I stopped at the door to the room of my goal. Appropriately shaded a dark red, perhaps in forbearance to the events about to take place. But I could not help but notice the detail and construct of it all, the beautiful square design, the way the golden handle brought life to the red door, almost as if saying that it is within this room that life happens.
With the philosophical moment passed, I stood up and readied the knife in my hand. There was no need to be sneaky anymore; there was a job to finish, dead or alive. I hesitated before giving the golden handle a nice twist in the clockwise direction. I gave the door a little push and it almost seemed to open itself; as if inviting me to experience the true essence of life.
"I've been expecting you," he said from his chair. He was already facing me; it seemed he knew his fate had already been decided. "How cliche," I replied. "Unfortunately your time is at an end. Like the red of your door your hands have been stained."
He stood up and made his way over to me. I was alert, ready for any trick that might be up his sleeve. But he was not in a trickster mood. I felt that he was just playing his part, trying to play it cool and not show his true colors.
"But are you sure you are making the right choice good sir?" Apparently his trickery was only with words, the same trickery he used on the rest of the town. There was no need to delay this further with meaningless words. I put the knife straight into his chest. "You don't understand, I am the legend, you can never hope to outwit me." "I...I...I don't understand. Just who are you?!?!" marvellosity said his last words. "I AM THE GOD DAMN BATMAN!" And I plunged the knife further into his chest.
I don't care if you're "unlynchable as long as you tell a story" (trololololol), you don't have to make such fluffy stories or the other post.Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 11:19 Crossfire99 wrote: Uh is there anything specific you guys want me to focus on to make sure I spend some time on before the lynch? I'm trying to catch up, but need to know what would be the most helpful. The other thing I find very disturbing is that before getting lynched he asks the town what he should do last minute. I don't find this consistent with a townie player. In my experience when inactive townies are about to die (like in his situation) they post something like, "oh shit sorry guys, I know I sucked, but I'm pretty sure X and Y are mafia" and then they give a sentence or two on their reasoning. I've never seen a townie ASK the town what they should do. Townies don't need to ask each other what to do, they already know what to do! Find mafia and post cases! Yeah way to cherry pick from my filter. Here let me help you out there. + Show Spoiler + On March 12 2013 11:00 Crossfire99 wrote: Sorry I played so terribly. I deserve to be lynched. Watch vivax because he pegged me as town even though i played like crap. Watch out for dandel. he might be scum but i'm not sure cause i've only been scum when i've played with him. On March 12 2013 11:00 Crossfire99 wrote:That's all i got with the 1 minute i had. Sorry town. On March 12 2013 11:02 Crossfire99 wrote: Am I dead? I only checked the vote thread and saw a lot of votes for me, so I assumed I'm dead. On March 12 2013 11:04 Crossfire99 wrote: Oh, but isn't it 10pm est now? On March 12 2013 11:05 Crossfire99 wrote: Whatever I'll try and catch up real fast to update my reads in case i die. On March 12 2013 11:19 Crossfire99 wrote: Uh is there anything specific you guys want me to focus on to make sure I spend some time on before the lynch? I'm trying to catch up, but need to know what would be the most helpful. On March 12 2013 11:25 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 08:41 supersoft wrote:new alternative to Crossfire: Dandel Ion
On March 12 2013 08:35 marvellosity wrote: you've had all day to read. and if the deadline is earlier you still wouldn't have pushed us towards any lynch.
*shrug* that's true, but i was lazy and i miscalculated the time i'd need to find a proper target. 1 hour wasn't enough i guess... Did anything come of this? I can't find him following up on the dandel thought at all which is really weird especially if he thinks dandel is a better alternative to me. On March 12 2013 11:26 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 11:20 iamperfection wrote:On March 12 2013 11:19 Crossfire99 wrote: Uh is there anything specific you guys want me to focus on to make sure I spend some time on before the lynch? I'm trying to catch up, but need to know what would be the most helpful. saying who you think is scum and why would probably be the best place to start...... No duh. But it could be useful to know whether people want me to spend 10-15 minutes analyzing someone to figure out their alignment rather than skim over the entire thread and just post cursory thoughts while catching up. I'm not the fastest analyzer. On March 12 2013 11:28 Crossfire99 wrote: I would vote for viv if only cause he pegged me as town when no one should have. On March 12 2013 11:31 Crossfire99 wrote:Show nested quote +On March 12 2013 11:20 VisceraEyes wrote: If you're serious about putting in effort, some thoughts on wherebugsgo vs Yamato would be a plus. Ok. I'll spend some time looking at that right now cause they seem like the only viable lynch targets so far. On March 12 2013 11:48 Crossfire99 wrote:Yeah I am unsure on Yamato, so I don't want to lynch him. There's some good and bad. It's good that he calls out super. It's good that he wants to lynch bugs. It's good that he claimed his kill of kurumi. It was bad that he actually killed kurumi. It's weird that he want from instantly voting me at the very beginning of the game, to me only be a possibility of a lynch later on + Show Spoiler +On March 12 2013 02:02 yamato77 wrote: The delay for my role was built in.
As for my Marv read... Hm. Gonna have to reread his filter closely.
Super, I will say, is being especially useless and obviously lurky.
Nothing has changed about Bugs.
Not sold on Cross/Stutters, but the possibility exists there. Not good lynches.
Sloosh needs more attention for being a useless pile of lurking shit, , to don't lynch me. He'll have to be looked into more. I definitely still want to lynch wbg cause he's done nothing but attack kurumi even when he knew he was modconfirmed town, plus he just trolled the thread when called out and doesn't even care about doing anything. I'm keeping my vote on wbg. So in conclusion we can be certain that crossfire is mafia as well. His actions with the nuke are clearly anti-town, and he's done nothing to warrant town behavior, especially on day 1 and night 1.
marvellosity has yet to provide a case against me (and he refuses to do so). One sentence is not a case. Read through his filter and ask yourself if he's really helping the town, or if he's pushing an agenda. I'm going to let someone a lot better than me answer this one, who was in a remarkably similar situation with foolish being scum in Parallel World Mafia (some of the quote doesn't apply but I'll leave it in for completeness's sake).
On December 19 2012 05:20 syllogism wrote: @Foolishness Short cases are often best. I know a lot of players love to write stories describing how everything about someone's play is indicative of the person being mafia or town, but in reality a lot of it is just fluff. You have been useless and wrong about everything so far. Town foolishness it not useless and rarely this wrong.
You made a completely nonsensical attack on Marvel early on and your explanation for it is not satisfactory. You have ignored role based reasons for believing someone is town; it doesn't matter if the evidence isn't conclusive, it's still evidence. In addition you have mostly ignored players who you should have been suspicious, BH/Mementoss in particular. Overall your interest in the game can be, at best, characterized as superficial.
You left your vote on Yamato despite being asked to move it by confirmed town Sandroba and it made no sense at all to leave it there based on your explanation of your role. You didn't have a read on Yamato and you claimed your role could potentially kill him. There is no way a town aligned person with your role would use it on a person they've no read on, and if you were town aligned you certainly would have a mafia read on someone. Finally you keep getting lynched to no-lynch world and there is basically no good explanation for this other than mafia not wanting you to get lynched.
The only reason I'm bothering to type even this up is because I know you've previously been, as mafia, annoyed due to being lynched/suspected when there is "no case" against you (ptp3?). Just because no one bothers to articulate a case "comprehensive" case against you doesn't mean there are no good reasons for lynching you. The main purpose when making a case is to convince everyone else, not the subject of the case.
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On March 14 2013 12:37 cDgCorazon wrote: Well, since Yamato is going to be nuked today by a North Korean nuke...
##Vote: Yamato ##Sloosh's Vote: Yamato
Once again, my plan is to lynch Yamato. He is scum and lynching him will get scum down to 2 KP. It can't get more simpler than that. Why steal sloosh's vote? Is he scum? If you're certain of Yamato being scum, you should have stolen his vote and made him vote for himself.
I wish today was a double lynch...
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I am extremely sorry guys for disappearing, but I was really busy these past few days. I am also sick so I will be going to bed after this post. I will be around tomorrow to talk some more.
I have been rereading a lot, and honestly I don't know what exactly is happening, but I do know that there are very weird abilities. Honestly, right now I actually think we have already killed 2 scum in cora and foolishness. It is what makes the most sense play wise. What doesn't make sense is the flips. I can easily get by there being 5 night kills because we know 1 came from stutters. At most this means that 4 came from scum. This is not entirely unreasonable even if there are only 2 mafia faction kp because cora died. I know specifically from themed game mafia where I was scum, we had only 2 kp but due to roles had 4 people die night 1. We also still had a dayvig, another extra kp, and a conditional suicide bomber type role yet to use. Anyway this is all to say that I think we are still in a decent spot in this and shouldn't panic. The only reason I have some confidence in saying this is because of this post by strong before he died. + Show Spoiler + On March 16 2013 09:35 strongandbig wrote:Show nested quote +On March 16 2013 08:36 strongandbig wrote:On March 16 2013 07:32 slOosh wrote: Ok. This is probably my pivotal post. The way I did it was look at the playerlist, cross out dead people, make loose associations with Foolish cora scum, and my nuke crew (3 town 1 scum), so I'm left with lurkeresque type players. I guess they got away with producing less since me and Vivax was taking the full brunt of focus, given that we were playing on scum side for sometime. But I digress.
On March 16 2013 07:54 Vivax wrote: Actually, no one might be scum tonight. What do these mean Kill vivax and sloosh until they explain themselves It sounds to me like there's something that they've been coordinating on outside the thread. Until they explain these comments they should be treated as having claimed scum. This is his last will and if you notice he calls out 2 quotes, one from sloosh and one from vivax that occurred last night. The quote from vivax is especially interesting because it sure sounds like he knew everyone was going to flip town this morning. Therefore, I agree with strong and say we should lynch vivax.
##Vote: Vivax
I also do not see how marv is scum right now. Supersoft thought he was scum, but then read his 35 page filter (at the time) and then came to the conclusion that he is town. Austin, I see your trap and walk in willingly because I just don't see marv being scum. You are going to have to have a freakin' good case for me to even consider the fact.
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