hrmm
can kill adam for being stupid
can kill kier for being useless
must ponder that.
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hrmm can kill adam for being stupid can kill kier for being useless must ponder that. | ||
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We need to lynch scum and for those saying killing both isnt taking a stance it is. It means i can see arguments for either one being scum. | ||
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On February 27 2013 00:59 Alderan wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2013 00:56 iamperfection wrote: if he here one more thing about oh we need information or crap like that i swear to god im going to jump off a bridge. We need to lynch scum and for those saying killing both isnt taking a stance it is. It means i can see arguments for either one being scum. Taking a stance?... wat.... Hey town, how about we not take a stance on things like double lynching townies. Neither of those are good enough reasons to lynch. So again, let's NOT "take a stand". you know something i dont? | ||
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On February 27 2013 01:09 Alderan wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2013 01:06 iamperfection wrote: On February 27 2013 00:59 Alderan wrote: On February 27 2013 00:56 iamperfection wrote: if he here one more thing about oh we need information or crap like that i swear to god im going to jump off a bridge. We need to lynch scum and for those saying killing both isnt taking a stance it is. It means i can see arguments for either one being scum. Taking a stance?... wat.... Hey town, how about we not take a stance on things like double lynching townies. can kill adam for being stupid can kill kier for being useless Neither of those are good enough reasons to lynch. So again, let's NOT "take a stand". you know something i dont? I know that one being stupid and one being useless is not reason enough to lynch both. If I see some significant scum evidence on BOTH then I would advocate a double lynch, but because it's fairly certain they are not both scum then what you are proposing is essentially a random lynch. i dont know what your expecting some sort of smoking gun evidence that so and so is mafia it isnt gonna happen This is an educated guessing game after all. Kier doesn't care about this game. He is not interested in finding scum Adam did something stuipd that acro points out should be punished. both can be mafia | ||
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On February 27 2013 04:05 Alderan wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2013 03:36 Acrofales wrote: On February 27 2013 03:19 Alderan wrote: On February 27 2013 03:16 Acrofales wrote: On February 27 2013 03:11 thrawn2112 wrote: i might switch to double lynch if some of the adam voters will too Err, it's instant majority, so unless you won't be around to hammer Keir if he approaches the 8 votes needed to lynch, you can safely make that statement by unvoting. Mind explaining how unconcerned you seemed about the duel? You were around at the time, so give us your story. Did the duel come out of the blue? It did for me as I was reading it. You seem pretty calm: On February 26 2013 16:45 thrawn2112 wrote: ##Vote: Keirathi adam mind explaining why you had to call for the duel right now? Mind explaining your thought process at the time? This tunneling on the idea of the double lynch is incredibly scummy. Let it go, there's no way we're double lynching today, stop dissuading people from placing votes... I like the idea of a scumhunt challenge, just wish it was actually happening. Interesting. Why is it scummy to want to double lynch? Got off on a rant the first time I answered this question and accidentally closed the tab. Do you really need to explain to you why lynching twice on the first day is less effective than lynching once? yes | ||
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On February 27 2013 07:42 thrawn2112 wrote: so we have two people up for lynch. we have to lynch at least one of them. 1) both scum. this is dumb but if it's true then it's not a possibility worth worrying about. win-win 2) both town. if this is the case then we are fucked either way. lose-lose 3) one town, the other scum. win-lose Option 3 is the only option worth worrying about. If 1 is true, it's a win-win and if 2 is true we're in a lose-lose. So there's not much use in considering either option as a real possibility. 1/2 might be true but in either case there's nothing we can do about it. So now we are in a position where it makes sense that for the rest of the cycle, we might as well at least assume that only one of them is likely to be scum. Don't place your votes based on which option you think is the lesser of two evil, I want reasons for why the person you're voting for has a higher chance to flip scum than the other. Which explanation makes more sense: A townie haves an emotional omgus reaction and duels his accuser or a mafia player making a similar omgus styled play? Then you have to look at each of their filters. Even if you like keir's point about adam's possible self-promotion, you cannot ignore that it's all keir has talked about. He's said a few things about how I wasn't playing up to my town meta, and lately he's said that I've been hopping around on thread sentiment. These points are lazy and anyone could make them. And those 2 'reads' are keir's entire contribution to the game thus far. I am having a hard time believing that out of all the things that have happened in the thread, an early meta read on me and the tunneling of a single point about adam is all he would be able to come up and be suspicious of if he were town. i change my mind about thrawn what a useless post. your scum aren't you? | ||
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On February 27 2013 11:57 thrawn2112 wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2013 11:50 Acrofales wrote: On February 27 2013 11:45 thrawn2112 wrote: dienosoe let's walk though that summary of kei's play On February 27 2013 11:33 Dienosore wrote: Keirathi + Show Spoiler + Timeline: - disagrees with Thrawn's stance to just 'let things happen as they will' - says Thrawn is currently his biggest scumread - puts suspicion on Adam due to his rogue bravado - tries to advance our dueling policy - says he is willing to duel Thrawn - argues a bit more with Adam about dueling policy - gets called out by Adam - general defending Summary: As I said earlier, I was completely surprised by Adam snapping on Keir. I've gone through Keir's filter a few times since the duel was called, but I still can't find anything that sticks out as obviously scum motivated. Other than a bit of back and forth banter mostly discussing dueling policy, he has kept a relatively low profile. The only real aggression shown has been directed towards a scummy looking Thrawn. It's true his activity has been a little slow, but not so much that I'd see any reason to raise any alarms. Overall, I'd say he has been playing it overly safe, if anything. anyone. Here are your main points about keir, taken from that bottom paragraph: "Other than a bit of back and forth banter mostly discussing dueling policy, he has kept a relatively low profile" "The only real aggression shown has been directed towards a scummy looking Thrawn" "Overall, I'd say he has been playing it overly safe, if anything." Those things are not suspicious? wtf What is your conclusion? that dienosore is hella scummy for not being suspicious of obviously scummy keir. keir's actual alignment probably doesn't even factor into it. town dienosore should not be looking at someone who hardcore lurked and only introduced 1 unique point to the thread and seeing them as not scummy. i approve of this post. i change my mind again on thrawn. | ||
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On February 27 2013 12:02 The Macho Man wrote: Show nested quote + On February 27 2013 12:01 Dienosore wrote: [B]On February 27 2013 11:57 thrawn2112 wrote: that dienosore is hella scummy for not being suspicious of obviously scummy keir. Maybe I am blind and have been missing something, but why is Keir obviously scummy? I'm not trying to argue here, I'm just looking for an honest discussion. If you have a good reason why Keir should be shot over Adam, I'm all ears. As it stands now, I just don't see it. because he isn't doing anything and it doesn't look like he cares about the game..... | ||
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We get to know kier's and we get to know adam's alignment how much more information could you want!!!! | ||
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On February 27 2013 13:01 Adam4167 wrote: By that logic iam, you should want to kill everyone, to generate the most 'information'. what do you care your super scum kier dies with you no? Some times we have to make sacrifices for the town.... unless your survival is super important to you adam...................................... | ||
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On February 27 2013 13:05 Adam4167 wrote: Survival is important to every alignment, so that's irrelevant. you would think the guy that was so sure that someone was scum that he stifiled all conversation to be hero would be willing to be the Jesus Christ that we need | ||
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On February 27 2013 16:44 yamato77 wrote: So let me break the game down here, because I have a decent idea of what's going on. Based on the complete uselessness of both parties involved in this lynch, Adam and Keirathi, I think the likelihood of them both being town is high. Mafia in this position would be more concerned with the possibility of being lynched here, and do something about it. Neither of these players seems to be trying particularly hard to live, so by default they're probably just town. It's unfortunate that one, or perhaps both, might die in this situation, but if I had to pick one, I would pick Adam. Keirathi, I think, is the better town among the two, and could potentially be valuable to us later on if left alive. That said, at this point, it doesn't matter too much to me which one lives, because I don't think either of them is particularly useful this game. THAT said, I don't want both to die. The mere thought of a double lynch is hilariously stupid in this situation, and I don't like the idea of not choosing either of them at all. Mafia have an unprecedented ability to hide in this situation, because they don't even have to FAKE a read on a player and justify it, they can just say they think they're both worth lynching and not vote, causing a double lynch. So who is doing this? Iamperfection. I initially thought he was fairly townie, but his interest in this lynch is tremendously low. Like, I don't think he's given a read on either of these people that was longer than a sentence or deeper than "He's mafia because XX and I said so." In fact, that's basically how all of his reads have been so far, town or scum. But what is really damning, to me, is the fact that he's pushing this double lynch thing with no good logic to back it up. Acro, I can believe. Iamp is just kinda on that wagon and has pushed it without a clear motive like Acro's. If these two really are townies, like I think, then mafia is more likely to be disinterested in picking sides, and has clear motivation to want them both dead. It's the same heuristic I used to catch on to Snarfs in Nomination; mafia players don't care which townie dies, and won't spend much effort picking one. Only iamp isn't even picking one. Hilariously scummy. lol herp derp two guys not contributing........ therefore they must be town. what game you playing? adam dumped some reads after this post so at least he seems like he cares. How anyone can think kier is town at this point mind boggling. | ||
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I think the mafia team has probably gotten together at this point and know they cant touch me. | ||
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On February 27 2013 23:33 Oatsmaster wrote: Lol Iamp when is the last time you got mislynched? also double lynch? :D i have never been mislynched and never will | ||
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On February 27 2013 16:05 Dienosore wrote: Wait, hold on... Did I read this right? Show nested quote + On February 27 2013 15:38 Oatsmaster wrote: I dont think that Keirathi is gonna flip scum, but on the slight chance that he is trying not to draw flack for his play, I am in favour of lynching him. Quoting this for preservation purposes. this kid is mafia by the way. quoting for preservation purposes you kidding me......... would scum oats say something like this guy is town but fuck him kill him anyways. probably not. this post looks like scum just finding something controversial and not doing anything with it. | ||
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On February 28 2013 01:44 Acrofales wrote: Show nested quote + On February 28 2013 01:38 zarepath wrote: Acro, you ARE INSANE. Why do you believe both to be scum??? One of them DUELED the other when somebody else was already WILLING to. Why in the world would scum duel each other day 1? Double-lynching when one of the people dueled the other of his own volition is idiotic in this game. Anyone who is either not voting or is voting specifically for a double-lynch need to realize that they are relying completely on mafia being utterly retarded and not playing to their win condition in any way. Oh, dafuq. What is it with you people and your lack of reading comprehension Adam is an evil 3P who cares jack shit about the wellbeing of this town Keirathi is evil scum who needs to die Both must die. I will duel the next person who asks for my reads on adam and keir, because I hereby declare a policy lynch on people not reading the thread. This post has the iamperfection seal of approval. stop being scared little girls and lets put some heads on stakes. | ||
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