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On February 02 2013 00:39 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 00:35 Toadesstern wrote:On February 02 2013 00:10 annul wrote: also, i would really like to lynch toad. and in fact i am going to do so. people have just given him an absolute pass due to his sheriff position. he has made some anti-town decisions and some very strange plays all game such that i would not be surprised if he got into power as a red.
i also will vote adam because of day 1 shenanigans re: election votes etc. one of these two are red. name one and I will ignore that I have been:telling people to lynch into either oats / prplhz d1 telling people to lynch into chez / BKE d2, changing to gonzaw once the red flip came in telling people to lynch into chez / BKE d3 was the guy to tell everyone to lynch axle d4.if you're able to do that I'll just lynch you without being mean. *coughs loudly* Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 19:24 Toadesstern wrote: That being said Axle isn't a medic although he claimed it 4 times in a thread, so he's back to null to me. Show nested quote +On January 29 2013 21:01 FiveTouch wrote: Then we should absolutely be lynching Axle.
His activity has dropped off a cliff.
##Vote: Axlegreaser
well look at the logs between yamato and me :p I even called the lynch before the day started, while still being certain that everyone that isn't "confirmed town" needs to be lynched.
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On February 02 2013 00:44 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 00:39 FiveTouch wrote:On February 02 2013 00:35 Toadesstern wrote:On February 02 2013 00:10 annul wrote: also, i would really like to lynch toad. and in fact i am going to do so. people have just given him an absolute pass due to his sheriff position. he has made some anti-town decisions and some very strange plays all game such that i would not be surprised if he got into power as a red.
i also will vote adam because of day 1 shenanigans re: election votes etc. one of these two are red. name one and I will ignore that I have been:telling people to lynch into either oats / prplhz d1 telling people to lynch into chez / BKE d2, changing to gonzaw once the red flip came in telling people to lynch into chez / BKE d3 was the guy to tell everyone to lynch axle d4.if you're able to do that I'll just lynch you without being mean. *coughs loudly* On January 29 2013 19:24 Toadesstern wrote: That being said Axle isn't a medic although he claimed it 4 times in a thread, so he's back to null to me. On January 29 2013 21:01 FiveTouch wrote: Then we should absolutely be lynching Axle.
His activity has dropped off a cliff.
##Vote: Axlegreaser well look at the logs between yamato and me :p I even called the lynch before the day started, while still being certain that everyone that isn't "confirmed town" needs to be lynched. but yeah, shouldn't have said "told everyone in the thread to lynch him" I guess
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On February 02 2013 00:39 Vivax wrote: Yeah Toad you're a giant baller. Weib und Ruhm for you. Everyone in this thread wants to meet you now to get your signature on their pet Toads. all I'm saying is that to think I am not confirmed town you need to be a guy who replaced in 10 seconds ago and hasn't read a single post so far.
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On February 02 2013 00:50 austinmcc wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 00:42 FiveTouch wrote:On February 02 2013 00:41 austinmcc wrote: I don't think it's time to lynch into elected officials yet. But yeah, neither elected dude is actually "confirmed." There is still the chance that one of you is the remaining scum and figured that once you got elected you could bus yourself to endgame.
Everything right now is circumstantial, and we're not yet at a point where mafia FT puts us at endgame, but we need to be aware of that. It's one explanation for why a claimed cop has been left alive - neither of you can be checked, so part of the risk to mafia of an active cop is gone. It's one explanation for why Gonzaw didn't get pushed over the top into an elected position - mafia already had one of the spots (For all the talk about what would/wouldn't have looked suspicious, they could have voted him harder earlier on, it's not like they HAD to last-minute vote like Chez did). We need to have some words after the game, austin dearest. I held it in this long! I've only been internally paranoid, and i DON'T want to lynch into you guys yet. You've got to admit that you're not afraid to bus teammates. You've got to admit that an elected position provides cover from the policy lynches you've been receiving - mafia would have had to expend a lot more than normal to kill you early. You have ridden town cred to scum victory before, being right in your reads.
which is why I said I'd rather leave oats alive for a couple of days but since I said it it's rendered useless, as mafia could just as well wait a couple of days now...
It's really odd that they're leaving vivax and bodyguards alive though.
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On February 02 2013 00:53 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 00:50 austinmcc wrote:On February 02 2013 00:42 FiveTouch wrote:On February 02 2013 00:41 austinmcc wrote: I don't think it's time to lynch into elected officials yet. But yeah, neither elected dude is actually "confirmed." There is still the chance that one of you is the remaining scum and figured that once you got elected you could bus yourself to endgame.
Everything right now is circumstantial, and we're not yet at a point where mafia FT puts us at endgame, but we need to be aware of that. It's one explanation for why a claimed cop has been left alive - neither of you can be checked, so part of the risk to mafia of an active cop is gone. It's one explanation for why Gonzaw didn't get pushed over the top into an elected position - mafia already had one of the spots (For all the talk about what would/wouldn't have looked suspicious, they could have voted him harder earlier on, it's not like they HAD to last-minute vote like Chez did). We need to have some words after the game, austin dearest. I held it in this long! I've only been internally paranoid, and i DON'T want to lynch into you guys yet. You've got to admit that you're not afraid to bus teammates. You've got to admit that an elected position provides cover from the policy lynches you've been receiving - mafia would have had to expend a lot more than normal to kill you early. You have ridden town cred to scum victory before, being right in your reads. Yes, but it's retarded. Just look at my play. The same argument I made for Toad being town could have been made for me, by the way. As Axle's team-mate obviously I tell him to claim medic... By the way, Show nested quote +It's one explanation for why Gonzaw didn't get pushed over the top into an elected position - mafia already had one of the spots Given 3/5 of the mafia were on gonzaw, looks like they were trying pretty hard to get gonzaw into a position.
not to mention it's actually 3/4 and not 3/5 because clearly they could not have used prplhz as a legit vote with him flipping d1.
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screw this, let's lynch Annul first. Who are you on right now FT? Was it fuba + oats?
I'm willing to let go of Adam for 1 or 2 days although I don't give a crap about anything meta a player is able to figure out himself because if they're aware of it they can just not do it as mafia...
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On February 02 2013 01:01 FiveTouch wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2013 00:57 Toadesstern wrote: screw this, let's lynch Annul first. Who are you on right now FT? Was it fuba + oats?
I'm willing to let go of Adam for 1 or 2 days although I don't give a crap about anything meta a player is able to figure out himself because if they're aware of it they can just not do it as mafia... There's being able to figure it out, and there's being able to do something about it. If you look at all Adam's games, he's reserved, lurky (more so than here), and detached. Even when you 'figure this out', it's very hard to fake not being all these things, because they're emotional, attitude things. Most people aren't like you and me (or gonzaw, bugs) where we're very good at being able to fake town emotions for quite a long time. that seems so weird. Why would you not be able to do that... I'd say it's rather because people just aren't able to figure out their own different styles in the first place but whatever, trusting you on this one.
Annul + fuba, or Annul + oats, or fuba + oat? With me hinting at I want to keep oats around for 1 or 2 more days to see if mafia shoots him there's clearly no reason to do that anymore because mafia knows about that as well as I was forced to explain my reasoning, so wouldn't mind lynching into oats as much as I was 2 or 3 hours ago...
Still not sure what to make of Vivax and I'm not only talking about the possibility of him being mafia. He got us a red check on d1 when a lot of people mentioned gonzaw being a good target for the d2 lynch way before he mentioned it. It might have been a bus after all, especially considering his choice of targets afterwards... bugs, debears, austin, all 3 people who conveniently either died before his check got in or already claimed. It's the perfect oder to "check" people as mafia fakeclaimer. He could have EASILY proven to be a town DT by checking someone who hasn't claimed yet but didn't do so. If he's not mafia himself it is REALLY weird that he's still around. Why would mafia leave him alive? I just don't see them shooting people like Yamato instead of Vivax unless it's really a 3GF-setup, which would be bullshit.
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On February 02 2013 01:16 Vivax wrote: Toad, don't be ridiculous. I tried to figure out opinions about gonzaw before I claimed, and you, Bugs and FT all were opposed to lynching him. Bugs didn't get it after I asked him to look at gonzaw, and he voted Oats after saying the whole time that he is town. One of the reasons I checked him btw.
Being sure that yamato was scum thinking I'm DT and preparing to write a bus post, I claimed while you, Bugs and FT decided to lynch Oats already. oh sry my bad, I didn't post the logs between bugs and me yet, did I?
In fact I was around at the deadline (2am my time) when the kills came in and both bugs and I instantly said that we should reconsider gonzaw and consider him a lynch the second we saw the night hits. I mean, you even mentioned that my opinion on gonzaw changed so drastically when you thought I'm mafia d2 because I thought gonzaw to be town d1 and mafia on d2.
But yeah, guess it's understandable without the logs being posted. When did bugs or I say gonzaw is town post-d2?
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On February 02 2013 01:17 FiveTouch wrote: Who even cares if it's Vivax? It's impossible for him to win if it is.
So we leave Oats alive today, then they kill Vivax? Then what do we do?
Or we leave Oats alive today, and they kill debears? Then what?
it would give us some information about why they keep him alive. It could be he's mafia or it could be some of our "confirmed" townies isn't confirmed because it's a 3GF scenario.
I agree we shouldn't lynch him today though.
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On February 02 2013 01:27 Vivax wrote: Well he said something along the lines: "I will contact that DT after he got his check off this night" I lied because you almost made me claim bugs / axle (who I thought to be medic at that time) and didn't want you to know bugs is the DT?
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oh and bugs and I had phrases + keywords figured out for future checks so I could just claim anything that is red
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On February 02 2013 01:33 FiveTouch wrote: Also Stutters is very likely not-mafia, because if he's mafia he just signed up for a plan that would end up killing him. duh, told you I'd rather lynch into one of the green checks than lynch into stutters right now.
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grush is pretty certainly town as well for some reason I forgot, am in a game of dota right now.
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On February 02 2013 03:10 mkfuba07 wrote: The remaining scum isn't afraid of a DT. They found a mason who was tunneling austin to be a more important NK.
What does that mean to you? they might want us to think they're not afraid of the DT because they know they can't win any other way? Or the DT is mafia himself.
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Mafia was given a maximum of 4 non-mason roles that they were allowed to allocate, correct? As in: They didn't get a number like "4" and were told they can choose what the roles are on top of that, correct?
Probably best to quote the right one and say something along the lines of "yeah, that one" :p
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On February 02 2013 06:10 austinmcc wrote: I will not, however, argue that I have played a VERY unfortunate game of mafia up until this point. I don't like posts like that. Makes it look like you're going to change, which won't happen
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I think even Sandroba mentioned Chez as leaning slightly town at the end of n1 if I remember correctly. And he said he feels somewhat comfortable judging him because they both have been playing here for so long.
And that says something if even he was wrong on him.
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vivax is go getting the WTF-award for his dt claim
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