On November 22 2012 10:43 Oatsmaster wrote:
WIFOM? what is the difference between that and WIFOM?
WIFOM? what is the difference between that and WIFOM?
You are using the other abolished term. Tsc Tsc Tsc.
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On November 22 2012 10:43 Oatsmaster wrote: WIFOM? what is the difference between that and WIFOM? You are using the other abolished term. Tsc Tsc Tsc. | ||
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On November 22 2012 10:44 Z-BosoN wrote: Show nested quote + On November 22 2012 10:40 sandroba wrote: Also I would like to propose we erradicate the use of term scummy. Next time you feel the urge of using it, instead use "this behavior is mafia oriented because as town you would do X, while as mafia you benefit from doing Y". I'm tired of reading that word blended into terrible cases that postulate something is "scummy" out of thin air. Are you referring to anything especific? Also, after a skim through some pages I realized you had a town read on GK, do to your skype chats and shit. Can you be more specific on what is it exactly that he said that made you think him town? From GK's filter, I'm leaning pretty null... Nothing in particular, just 90% of the "cases" that have been posted here. My leaning town read on GK has nothing to do with skype, it was a response when someone asked me if I agreed with dio on GK being scummy. | ||
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On November 22 2012 10:44 Hapahauli wrote: @ Sandro Show nested quote + On November 22 2012 10:31 sandroba wrote: On November 22 2012 09:49 Hapahauli wrote: On November 22 2012 09:41 sandroba wrote: I just woke up and there is 20 more pages, I'll respond to stuff as I read: On November 22 2012 00:01 goodkarma wrote: On November 21 2012 22:50 sandroba wrote: I wouldn't mind syllo being leader either and if I win I will give him veto power over the people I choose. I'm fairly certain he is town at this point. I found this particular quote to be upsetting. I understand, on the one hand, if you have a town read on syllo. But I don't understand why you would be willing to go so far as to allow him to veto your picks. If you're not that confident in your choices, you should as well just have him pick for you... Or better yet, let him be party leader. As current "frontrunner" I would like a response from you on this scandal. Are you looking to concede and have syllo run in your stead, or was this merely an assertion that you are super-confident syllo is town? I'm very confident he is town. We talk about reads and games constantly in skype when we are not playing in it, and we get better results when we work toghether I believe. Is there a reason you consider him so townie? I'm thinking of voting you or him myself, so any reasoning you could provide would help. I believe I gave a brief sumary to marv already some 20 pages ago. I've played and talked with him a lot and I'm pretty sure I can tell. We often discuss games toghether so I know what's up with his thought process. Hm ok, I'll look through some of syllo's stuff and see if I agree. Also, thoughts on my thoughts on Toad? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=382922¤tpage=52#1024 @ Kita As much as I enjoy flag-waving turkey's, running a joke campaign doesn't help town here. Do you actually believe Sandro/Syllo/etc aren't good candidates? I've read them and you fall in the same cathegory of many other cases here. A townie's goal is also looking as townie as possible to get elected/participating in a mission. | ||
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On November 22 2012 17:34 syllogism wrote: It's more likely than not real and he seems kind of towny, but in a crazy way that has often posed me problems. As you know, I'm convinced that at least some of the main characters either aren't in the game (and mafia knows this so they are safe claims) or some of them are simply mafia. I'll be back in maybe 6 hours Sure but when everyone already thinks you are town fake claiming seems ultra unlikely. Makes 0 sense as mafia in his pos. | ||
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@oats I had him as town way before the claim, you can check my previous post when syllo asked me for a town read. So yes. | ||
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@acro oats is one of my stronger town reads. Pretty much all his posts seem very genuine and seem to come from a streamlined thought process with no careful consideration behind it. | ||
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I took 125 dmg and got roleblocked. | ||
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I think this claim is a little too far fetched to be a fake claim. I can't fathom someone fake claiming 20+ different abilities and if he can tell us before he uses it we can verify. | ||
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As to your question, obviously, since I am town. He has been paranoid about my alignment a lot of times in the past (of the top of my head merc mini mafia and that huge 80 player game), but normally he reaches the correct conclusion soon enough. | ||
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syllo's points: 1)Mafia has to run d1, they need a strong candidate, if not sandroba who else. Assume for a moment I am town. You decide to run too because you are not certain I'm town yet. Most people believe either you or me are town. Do you think any candidate mafia would propose would gain momentum in this situation? Probably not, and if they forced it, it would probably look very unatural and suspicious. 2) I dissapeared at suspicious times and did not announce my support to him in the thread. This is obviously non alignment related, but I'm going to explain it anyway since most of the case hinders on this. We went to a bar in the afternoon and met some people. I was planning to get back home in time to play this game. We met a really nice group of girls and they were going out to a club. I came back home to change and vote then went out again. Proceeded to not sleep overnight and severly fuck my sleep schedule. God I'm fucking home friday night because I just woke up. And didn't I announce my support for you early? You gotta be kidding me on this one. I fucking concluded you were town very fast and said I didn't mind you being leader instead of me. I missed your straight up question asking for support because I wasn't home, but that implicit the whole time. Come on now. 3) My reasoning for reads feels off. I'm not giving scum reads. The first part: can you honestly say that? I'm never one to give very precise reasoning for reads and it's more of a gut feeling most of the time, about a certain post or timing or w/e. I don't even understand how you came up with this one. Second part: fair enough, I didn't bother with this day1. I'm pretty sure prom and kita are scum at this point and almost sure on clarity. I'll try to provide proof in another post. 4) I tried to discredit you instead of adressing your accusations. Honestly I don't even see an acusation in your filter before now. You had a feeling I had >50% of being mafia and complained about the way I was behaving, because you felt it was off. Is there anything I could say to "adress" it besisdes saying that you are wrong? And yes you've been paranoid about my alignment early on in some games we played, I remember you being a pain until you convinced yourself I was town. | ||
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On November 24 2012 12:07 Hapahauli wrote: Show nested quote + On November 24 2012 12:01 sandroba wrote: Pretty much his forged nonsensical cases against me, deliberately misinterpreting things to make me look scummy. I'm not quite sure yet because he could be really bad and have confirmation bias, trying to fit every single post I make in his theory. Oh come on... you're straight up OMGUS Clarity? I mean the guy is a relatively new player and has an 11 page filter... It's not omgus, I had the gut feeling he was scum before that. Many others are voting for me too and you don't see me going after each of them. However this dude is distorting things to push an agenda. | ||
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