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On October 23 2012 10:24 marvellosity wrote: iamp, living up to his name like a baws. har har so funny how long did you stay up thinking that one up. | ||
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On October 23 2012 10:41 DarthPunk wrote: Also I 100% do not want to lynch keir right now. So if that comes up as a thing. Ima shut it down as hard as I can. why | ||
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On October 23 2012 10:44 DarthPunk wrote: Is there a reason you want to know? I don't feel like I particularly want or need to share my reasons. Especially at night. well i said i thought he was scum so if you have reason he is not that would interest me. | ||
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On October 23 2012 10:53 Keirathi wrote: I used the same argument as town in Aperture 2, and I Can't Believe It's Not Themed too, as town. So...how is that relevant? You're making an argument about my "meta" without any fucking clue what my meta actually is. Or hell, what meta even is in general. It's a pattern of things repeated across multiple games. That I even have to explain this to you is so mindboggling that I can't comprehend it, since I've used it to correctly read you and tell you about it in like 4 different games, granted I was wrong in another game. I actually don't know what you're talking about with Ottoxlol. I named my scumteam in the obs thread on night 1, then checked out because the game was boring and dead. You're right. Dropping a hammer, in and of itself, is completely a completely null tell. Did I ever say I was voting him for hammering v7? No. I'm going to vote him for the REASONS he hammered v7. my point was that ottoxol got heat just because he dropped a hammer vote and the other town members herp derped for a little bit saying lol obvious scum is obvious. | ||
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and this action takes the cake. On October 23 2012 05:43 drazak wrote: About which? he gets asked a direct question and abandons the thread. i know wifom wifom wifom but come on dont you think he would be able to ask his scum buddy for some advice if he were scum. That would make more sense from my view. Even me a newish player would be able to help him a little bit. Im just not buying drazak as scum. | ||
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On October 23 2012 22:37 marvellosity wrote: that IS wifom wifom wifom and is a terrible reason for anything. Then whats his fucking strategy play terrible on purpose a scum drazak would have a partner that is a fact.i dont see anyone on the player list that would allow this to happen. | ||
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On October 24 2012 00:56 austinmcc wrote: iamperfection, Apart from the whole "what scumbuddy would allow this" train of thought, what are your thoughts on drazak? Do you still stick with "said some things too odd/dumb to be scum"? obviously i looked through his filter and its awful but his latest actions just straighten my too stupid theory. Maybe that's not textbook scum hunting but i don't particularly care I'm pretty sure I'm right. drazak looks to me like he is a lost useless townie. | ||
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On October 24 2012 01:47 Hapahauli wrote: Hey guys, I've been really busy with schoolwork for the last half-day. I do have some stuff to has out, and I'll post more complete thoughts when I get out of class in a couple of hours. Regarding Z-Bo/Kei The "99.9%" thing seems like very misplaced rhetoric. Unless there's something you're withholding from us, Z-Bo's actions so far in no way make him 99.9% scum. I see you posting a lot of "weak reasoning," but so what? Fact of the matter is, there wasn't much reasoning to discuss on the v7 lynch. He was inactive, hadn't been contributing, and therefore some of us found him scummy. I can see how this can be interpreted as scummy, but "99.9%" is farfetched at best. In fact, what do you make about the rest of Z-Bo's play? It's important to take into consideration more than just his stuff on v7. Is there anything else about his play that suggests scum Z-Bo? The context of his play, in particularly his fearlessness, points to the exact opposite methinks. But your attitude shift from "I don't wanna make a D1 read" helplessness to "99.9% scum" on Z-Boson is really really weird. I'm not sure if it makes you scummy or not, but it is strange. I'll have to mull this one over. Regarding Drazak I don't know what to make of his in-activity at all. However, I kinda think he's town due to process of elimination (see below) Regarding my Scumreads Iamperfection Marvellosity The gist of it is that Marv's posting is really detached from this game, and is something I never see in his town games, but very frequently in his "lazier" scumgames. Iamperfection also has this golden post here: ...where he basically calls Kei scum outright on Day 1 yet keeps his vote on v7 the entire day. I'm also sure I'm not mis-interpreting his "candle-light vigil" comment since he clarified his scumread on Kei here: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602¤tpage=31#607 Also, I noticed that he had an "FOS" on me right after the lynch deadline, but has done nothing so far to push his read, despite me not posting in the thread at all in the last ~16 hours or so. He's also just really really sure about Draz being town, which is odd to me. I know I had a town read on Draz before, but so clearly declaring him town is completely unjustified in light of his complete absence from the thread after early D1. i already addressed that i commented i should have pushed harder something you conveniently left off. go read gsl II if you think im acting the same way as i did there then so be it but i know im not because im town. Just because i made a little mistake of not pushing as hard as i should of doesn't make me scum and the fact that you left out that i already brought it up strengthens my read on you because you are once again twisting my words for your convenience. On October 23 2012 10:01 iamperfection wrote: people need to stop ignoring my posts when im town it happens every fucking game basically. When i say wait it means wait. Although i would of pushed v7 even if i had gotten back in time fucker had to go so im not really mad Any who another post that got ignored that i should have probably pushed harder when i made it was this one Kerihati used the same fucking argument when he was scum in gsl 1. He Basically he argues this how i always act and thats why he was doing this. My scum read on Kerihati remains and his stupid argument after the flip even makes less sense since he observed gsl II. People used shit arguments to blame ottoxol for being scum in that game just because he droped a hammer. I think droping a hammer is a null tell and the fact that kerihati blatantly abandoned all logic makes me think he is scum. Does this post not count or did you simply ignore it. And you know what i don't particularly care that i didn't push Kerihati because it had zero traction anyways his actions today speak louder where he straight up ignores everything besides z-boson basically. HE only comments on things he is comfortable with and thats me and now apparently herp derp zboson hammer must be scum he is the one that has been distant to going on's in this thread and the fact that you ignored that previous post i made concerns me a lot because i know your capable of better. From my perspective you are twisting words just to make a case. | ||
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On October 24 2012 03:42 Hapahauli wrote: @ iamperfection You not pushing your case isn't the main issue here (well it IS an issue, but not the main point). The concern I have is that you basically called Kei scum, and simply left your vote on v7 the entire time. What you post after the fact - what you said you should have done in retrospect - has no bearing on what you did. i believe i chimed in from my phone. i couldn't be involved sorry? i guess. had work. And you know what even if was here i still would have left my vote on vaderseven the guy did nothing to make me think he was town. so basically your case boils down to i didnt act like you. Vaderseven came across to me like he was full of crap so i make no apologies for leaving my vote on him. | ||
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On October 24 2012 05:23 Keirathi wrote: These are the kind of posts that are making me suspicious of iamp again. It's just so...not iamp. Town iamp doesn't give a fuck what you think about him. He explains himself when he feels like it, and doesn't care how bad the explanation is. He certainly doesnt apologize, even sarcastically. you dont understand iamperfection as much as iamperfection does. | ||
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On October 24 2012 06:31 Hapahauli wrote: No, he's capable of doing that as both alignments. He voted early as scum in Aperture 2 Mafia, and votes early as town a lot in his other games. In fact, I find him pointing to his GSL II meta in his defense really odd, since Aperture 2 was his most recent scumgame. This is a valid point, however, I still think he's scum for additional reasons mentioned in my case (strangely confident Draz town read, un-pushed FOS on me). I also liked the point about how apologetic he is that you brought up. It's very different from townie iamp. His entire defense to me also has been really really passive, which IMO confirms my read on him. who thought kush was town even after a red check from a dt. iamperfection thats who My town reads are usally right and i am confident in this one so that makes me scum fuck you and fuck you to Keirathi if i want to defend myself i will so screw you. i am very confident that one of you two is scum and now im leaning more towards hapa because hes say im being passive fuck you im right here say what you have to say. Come 1 on 1 with the perfect one. | ||
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On October 24 2012 06:35 Hapahauli wrote: @ Marv Regarding iamp's "candle-light" thing, I initially thought that was the case as well (responding to Kei). However, iamperfection's more recent post (his clarification of that post) suggests my interpretation: http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=376602¤tpage=31#607 In it, he very clearly refers to that post as having a scumread on him. Regarding misrepresenting iamp's suspicions (in particular the vote on v7 vs. Kei's suspicions) Yah that's totally my bad. However, my other points still stand, namely his random FOS on me, his town read on Draz, and more recently, his uncharacteristically passive defense. And btw, I find it funny you still haven't commented on iamperfection's alignment at all. But I'm working on a case on you anyway - it'll take a little while to type. fucking random it aint random at all you twist my words and make shit out of nothing and im supposed to think your town fuck you. | ||
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On October 24 2012 06:43 Hapahauli wrote: But one thing about Kei's observations about your "defense" is that you generally don't give a shit about explaining yourself or suspicions against you. You just went from passive to screaming "fuck fuck fuck" in the span of five minutes - that's not exactly normal for townie you. because i started to actually read what was written about me and i didn't like it. | ||
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hapa that was best case i have ever seen. | ||
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On October 24 2012 09:42 Hapahauli wrote: marv is claiming scum btw. how?? | ||
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On October 24 2012 09:53 drazak wrote: Wow, that post, I skimmed it before, but reading it again,I'm really starting to believe it, it's pretty comprehensive and those signs are pretty exact. I think if we lynch marv and he's scum, whomever the medic is has to save hapa because that wouldn't be a bus, but if marv isn't scum, maybe lynch hapa the next day? Drazak continues to show me he has no idea whats going on by saying the dumbest stuff ever. On top of it its an association before a flip which i have the greatest disdains. Hapa disagrees wit my line of think here but i still maintain this shit is way to dumb for a scum drazak. -------------------------------------------------- Hapas case i think is one of the best i have ever seen and marvs refusal to give reads is just the confirmation in my eyes. Despite what he says he is just stalling for as much time as possible in hopes that something happens. I know bullshit when i see and and his request to wait for tomorrow is bullshit. ## Vote Marvelosity I agree with hapa that i see know way in which marv flips town at this point. This comes as quite a shock to me and now im pretty confused as to what i thought was going on in this game. Im gonna go to bed and rethink everything in the morning. | ||
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