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+ Show Spoiler [day1] + [14:38] <austinmcc> test test 01[14:41] <@HiroPro> sup [14:42] <austinmcc> not much, responding to keirathi i guess [14:43] <austinmcc> don't terribly want to drop a vote on him right now, i usually vote pretty late, but I think his explanation has holes to poke at 01[14:43] <@HiroPro> yea [14:43] <austinmcc> everything so different from this alignment 01[14:43] <@HiroPro> but it's like really nitpicking [14:43] <austinmcc> it is, but i've actually done it before [14:44] <austinmcc> i caught talismania in a game where he suggested some plan to get everyone active and then fumbled with the reasons he wanted to do that 01[14:44] <@HiroPro> eh do what you think is right for you I guess 01[14:44] <@HiroPro> s&b man 01[14:44] <@HiroPro> that guy could be third party 01[14:44] <@HiroPro> gonzaw looks kinda weird also [14:45] <austinmcc> snb was REALLY inactive in GSL 2 [14:45] <austinmcc> was travelling or something, i'm unsure how active he is 01[14:45] <@HiroPro> yea, but like drazerk's point is valid 01[14:45] <@HiroPro> s&b has played so many games with drazerk [14:45] <austinmcc> yeah 01[14:45] <@HiroPro> he knows by now that draz will hunt for third parties [14:45] <austinmcc> bah, drazerk doesn't hunt for third parties, drazerk hunts for HIMSELF. Always rolling third party 01[14:46] <@HiroPro> lol true [14:46] <austinmcc> it seems like we've got too much KP for a third party [14:46] <austinmcc> actually, i have nothing to base that on 01[14:46] <@HiroPro> nah i don't think so. everyone in town will have a role [14:47] <austinmcc> gonzaw said he was busy for a few days, snb may be busy, got a couple lurkers [14:47] <austinmcc> trying to think who poses the biggest threat 01[14:47] <@HiroPro> "Hiro goes on my town list because no anti-town faction would be dumb enough to say that. 01[14:47] <@HiroPro> " 01[14:47] <@HiroPro> rofl 01[14:47] <@HiroPro> i feel good [14:47] <austinmcc> haha [14:48] <austinmcc> i haven't played with town drazerk in a real game i don't think [14:48] <austinmcc> nor with nisani [14:48] <austinmcc> nor much with ghost 01[14:48] <@HiroPro> i played with town draz in bastard 2 01[14:48] <@HiroPro> nisani was town also in that game, ghost 3rd party 01[14:48] <@HiroPro> might want to check it out if you have time since it's a very heavy themed game also [14:48] <austinmcc> okay, I'll reread that over the week [14:49] <austinmcc> i read it as it was played, but i'll refresh [14:50] <austinmcc> Dunno if Jingle will be tunnely this game or will try to help out 01[14:50] <@HiroPro> well i'm not too familiar with him, but if ptp3 is anything to go by, he's not a threat at all [14:51] <austinmcc> yeah. That can't be his normal play though [14:51] <austinmcc> he's been in a few newbies, and I think he was standoffish in a couple but not all 01[14:51] <@HiroPro> i remember someone coming into the ban list thread to complain about him while the game was ongoing 01[14:51] <@HiroPro> might have been shady 01[14:52] <@HiroPro> if gonzaw has time he can be dangerous 01[14:52] <@HiroPro> no one will listen to him, but draz picks up on things 01[14:52] <@HiroPro> ghost and s&b can be decent 01[14:53] <@HiroPro> mementoss too i guess 1[14:54] <@HiroPro> matt is really up and down, dunno what he's going to be like this game [14:54] <austinmcc> yeah, i was remembering shady and jingle sniping at each other in the one game [14:54] <austinmcc> hmmm [14:54] <austinmcc> i agree on gonzaw [14:54] <austinmcc> i guess we see how this game feels, but he's someone to take out before he can spam [14:54] <austinmcc> although he also seems to get off track sometime and just clog up thread 01[14:54] <@HiroPro> thing is right now the game is kinda dead [14:54] <austinmcc> if snb's super inactive i'm not overly worried about him 01[14:55] <@HiroPro> gonzaw is a good guy to correct that [14:55] <austinmcc> yeah [15:46] <austinmcc> ooooh [15:46] <austinmcc> looks like we might get PTP3 JingleHell 03[15:47] * iamperfection (webchat@69.177.214.63) has joined #makemoneyfast [15:47] <iamperfection> sup [15:49] <austinmcc> nothing, just scummin' it up [15:50] <iamperfection> what you think of my role seems like nerve gas will be the most usefull 01[16:25] <@HiroPro> ok i think i'll goad gonzaw into jumping on JIngle again 01[16:25] <@HiroPro> if he does that, the thread will turn into crap 01[16:26] <@HiroPro> perfection your role, uh, nerve gas is useful yeah, if we think we have a vig definetely use the 500 watt button and also stack it with austin's ability 01[16:26] <@HiroPro> that way they'll likely die instantly 01[16:44] <@HiroPro> what the hell lol 01[16:44] <@HiroPro> jinglehell actually dropped that just on 1 statement I made? 01[16:44] <@HiroPro> hrm 01[16:45] <@HiroPro> and i didn't even provide any quotes or games ol + Show Spoiler [Night 1] + [21:11] <austinmcc> check check 1 2 [21:11] <austinmcc> i don't have very long, but i can hop in here for a bit 01[21:12] <@HiroPro> hey 01[21:13] <@HiroPro> wait so what exactly where you trying to say with the mattchew thing? 01[21:13] <@HiroPro> i didn't really get it [21:13] <austinmcc> yeah yeah, it came out wrong [21:13] <austinmcc> ugh [21:13] <austinmcc> even in QT i misspeak sometimes [21:13] <austinmcc> so [21:13] <austinmcc> my role has an anti-bus driving property [21:13] <austinmcc> if i hit a bussed player, BOTH bussed players get shot [21:13] <austinmcc> so we know there's a bus driver somewhere [21:14] <austinmcc> if we think it's just bus driver and not other protective roles, and that a bus driver would bus mattchew to protect him [21:14] <austinmcc> then me shooting mattchew makes the most sense [21:14] <austinmcc> hit 2 targets [21:14] <austinmcc> but i think that we can't rely on no protective roles [21:14] <austinmcc> and we can't rely on a protective mattchew bus 01[21:15] <@HiroPro> hm, so what exactly do you want to do? [21:19] <austinmcc> i think we can leave mattchew up [21:19] <austinmcc> sorry, trying to also get back into another game, was so focused on this game today [21:19] <austinmcc> i think we can leave gonzaw up tonight [21:19] <austinmcc> i think we can leave mattchew up tonight [21:20] <austinmcc> i'm down with a memntoss kill\ [21:20] <austinmcc> killing Crossfire is a waste. snb is a waste (but could be fun for sheer oddness). JH is a waste. Nisani is a waste. That's 6 people entirely out if you count us out 01[21:20] <@HiroPro> drazerk is pointless. [21:20] <austinmcc> leaves ghost, mattchew, gonzaw, drazerk, keirathi, mementoss [21:21] <austinmcc> i agree with drazerk, and there are some suspicions on him as well [21:21] <austinmcc> so ghost, mattchew, gonzaw, keirathi, mementoss [21:21] <austinmcc> i don't think we should shoot ghost [21:21] <austinmcc> or gonzaw or matt [21:21] <austinmcc> i kind of come down to keirathi or mementoss [21:21] <austinmcc> for the actual factional KP 01[21:21] <@HiroPro> definetely prefer shooting mementoss 01[21:22] <@HiroPro> keirathi has actual suspicion on him and is kind of zoned in on nisani [21:22] <austinmcc> agree as well [21:22] <austinmcc> we're all good on factional then. And I don't think mementoss seems like a good protect target or anything tonight [21:23] <austinmcc> as for my shot, i've never actually been lynched, so I think I can avoid it [21:23] <austinmcc> at least for tomorrow 01[21:23] <@HiroPro> ok we need that [21:23] <austinmcc> so we need someone we want to kill next night 01[21:23] <@HiroPro> the burn then right [21:23] <austinmcc> i don't think we can possibly aim at someone being bussed [21:23] <austinmcc> it's just a .5 KP shot [21:23] <austinmcc> so i can fire 2x on one guy 01[21:23] <@HiroPro> no but it's free right? 01[21:23] <@HiroPro> you can use it twice in one night? [21:24] <austinmcc> ach night you may target a player and fire .5 silent kp at them (target will not be notified they were hit or protected from a hit). If the target is bussed with another player, both players will take the .5 kp because portals don't care about bullets. 01[21:24] <@HiroPro> yea you can't save that shot 01[21:24] <@HiroPro> you need to fire 0.5 each night [21:24] <austinmcc> yeah, but it won't kill until tomorrow [21:24] <austinmcc> so we've got to slightly think ahead [21:24] <austinmcc> i could want mattchew or gonzaw gone after 2 days maybe 01[21:24] <@HiroPro> yes [21:24] <austinmcc> i'm also slightly worried about some of the oblivious town players 01[21:25] <@HiroPro> well i think i can manipulate gonzaw [21:25] <austinmcc> JH is super duper towny to me but maybe not to others 01[21:25] <@HiroPro> doesn't matter if he is townie or not [21:25] <austinmcc> and Crossfire looks townie to me, if i'm viewing things objectively [21:25] <austinmcc> well, it matters late [21:25] <austinmcc> you're our best chance for endgame [21:25] <austinmcc> and you're set up well [21:25] <austinmcc> but if it's you and the two of them left 1[21:25] <@HiroPro> jh is so irritating and obssesed with himself that townies will suspect him [21:25] <austinmcc> i'd be lynching you in a heartbeat [21:26] <austinmcc> because they're so silly and towny. Everyone else might feel otherwise though and want to lynch JH for being JH 01[21:26] <@HiroPro> i'm going to go into endgame with crossfire and drazerk [21:26] <austinmcc> lol [21:26] <austinmcc> i wouldn't be surprised to see someone take drazerk out before then 01[21:26] <@HiroPro> yea it's possible [21:26] <austinmcc> or at the very least someone can bring up lynching him for the good of endgame 01[21:26] <@HiroPro> fine i'll take gonzaw and jingle lol 01[21:26] <@HiroPro> i'm not scared of gonzaw 01[21:27] <@HiroPro> matt might still be able to figure me out [21:27] <austinmcc> i'll be interested to read the thread if you guys are the final 3... 01[21:27] <@HiroPro> oh man that shit would be awesome lol [21:27] <austinmcc> i'm not overly scared about gonzaw either, but he's more threatening right now than someone like snb 01[21:28] <@HiroPro> yea s&b will get lynched 01[21:28] <@HiroPro> the guy has no thread presence 01[21:28] <@HiroPro> he came in today close to the lynch and all he said was drazerk is scum 01[21:28] <@HiroPro> didn't say a word about perfection 01[21:28] <@HiroPro> that kind of stuff will seem really scummy [21:28] <austinmcc> yeah [21:29] <austinmcc> he's been entirely missing the last couple games i've played with him, while he was at CERN or coming back 01[21:29] <@HiroPro> nisani can be lynched too i think [21:30] <austinmcc> i think nisani, snb, drazerk, JH without me on the vote, and even maybe ghost/keirathi can be lynched [21:31] <austinmcc> gonzaw has some neat little suspicions on ghost, but i don't know that they'll catch. Keirathi had that comment about iamperfection looking townie off meta [21:31] <austinmcc> which added to his other stuff makes him feel lynchable [21:31] <austinmcc> also, gonzaw and ghost seem to find him scummy, and iamperfection's flip shouldn't make him seem more townie, even if they don't care about his iamperfection read 01[21:31] <@HiroPro> yes 1[21:32] <@HiroPro> so who's the burn target? matt? crossfire? gonzaw? i'm leaning to matt 01[21:33] <@HiroPro> actually the frame might be even more important 01[21:33] <@HiroPro> if I can just try to figure out who the cop would target 01[21:34] <@HiroPro> probably nisani/s&b/drazerk right? 01[21:34] <@HiroPro> well you and kei are possibilities too 01[21:34] <@HiroPro> but my frame only makes people look guilty, not inno [21:35] <austinmcc> i don't see a cop checking snb N1 [21:35] <austinmcc> I could see cop checking nisani, drazerk, me, kei 01[21:36] <@HiroPro> we need to breadcrumb hunt 01[21:36] <@HiroPro> ugh it's so tiresome lol [21:37] <austinmcc> i don't even know how you'd crumb in this game [21:37] <austinmcc> i guess you can crumb the equivalent of your role in a normal 01[21:37] <@HiroPro> they'll do names 01[21:37] <@HiroPro> or yea equivalents 01[21:37] <@HiroPro> names of people [21:37] <austinmcc> like if I crumb some portal word [21:38] <austinmcc> nobody knows what that would be 01[21:38] <@HiroPro> names of people [21:38] <austinmcc> but yeah, crumbing targets and equivalents [21:38] <austinmcc> also, i'm guessing there are a lot of roles [21:38] <austinmcc> everyone loved aperture for the roles 01[21:38] <@HiroPro> yea def and we have no rber left lol [21:38] <austinmcc> people will be so disappointed if they join Aperture 2 and get no role 01[21:38] <@HiroPro> yep 01[21:38] <@HiroPro> i bet there's one troll green though 01[21:39] <@HiroPro> like the lemon thing 01[21:39] <@HiroPro> or the one that got a report of who was going to die at night at the daypost [21:40] <austinmcc> i'm going to shoot matt i think [21:40] <austinmcc> either matt or snb/crossfire [21:40] <austinmcc> if one of those two die [21:40] <austinmcc> i can claim vig or something, weeding out lurkers [21:40] <austinmcc> or weeding out people we don't want in endgame 01[21:40] <@HiroPro> you can't claim vig, we only have 1 kp itll be too obvious 01[21:41] <@HiroPro> oh wait 01[21:41] <@HiroPro> yes you can [21:41] <austinmcc> yeah 01[21:41] <@HiroPro> but its not a good idea [21:41] <austinmcc> i held my shot N1 [21:41] <austinmcc> or 01[21:41] <@HiroPro> like role!=alignment [21:41] <austinmcc> i couldn't shoot til x [21:41] <austinmcc> yeah [21:41] <austinmcc> but [21:41] <austinmcc> how you use the role can show alignment [21:41] <austinmcc> why would scum weed out a lurker [21:41] <austinmcc> that town didn't want to take to endgame, but probably wasn't going to lynch [21:41] <austinmcc> why wouldn't scum kill a stronger town player [21:42] <austinmcc> i only like those as kill options because I think they provide a strong argument that the use of the role is townie 01[21:42] <@HiroPro> not crossfire 01[21:42] <@HiroPro> people would lynch you if you claimed that 01[21:42] <@HiroPro> cause he voted for perfection [21:42] <austinmcc> yeah, true. only gonzaw suspicious of him [21:42] <austinmcc> remember he didn't know it was plurality [21:43] <austinmcc> so gonzaw's right, even though silly, about crossfire's vote not being a great towntell 01[21:43] <@HiroPro> no but someone will go, "that's a sign of him not having teammates to tell" 01[21:43] <@HiroPro> which is true 01[21:43] <@HiroPro> like if your teammate is up for lynch 01[21:43] <@HiroPro> you're going to know the damn voting rules [21:43] <austinmcc> yeah [21:43] <austinmcc> okay so [21:43] <austinmcc> mattchew or snb [21:44] <austinmcc> mattchew gets rid of townie. mattchew might be protected. mattchew might also be bussed [21:44] <austinmcc> actually, i don't care AT ALL about bussing 01[21:44] <@HiroPro> wait your thing will have flavor dude i just realized [21:44] <austinmcc> because i only do .5 kp. Horribly unlikely i'd be able to finish the person off 01[21:44] <@HiroPro> like if someone cross checks with aperture 1 01[21:44] <@HiroPro> they'll think you're scum [21:44] <austinmcc> sure [21:44] <austinmcc> sure [21:44] <austinmcc> well, less sure there [21:45] <austinmcc> i can claim to be a converted sentry gun [21:45] <austinmcc> or whatever else 01[21:45] <@HiroPro> -_- [21:45] <austinmcc> like...i can either claim a slightly different name [21:45] <austinmcc> converted sentry [21:45] <austinmcc> huggably soft sentry gun 01[21:45] <@HiroPro> that sounds so dumb lol [21:45] <austinmcc> renegade sentry gun [21:45] <austinmcc> this is how my mind thinks lol [21:46] <austinmcc> or claim like...sentry gun remote [21:46] <austinmcc> i dunno 01[21:47] <@HiroPro> wait so we have 12 people right 01[21:47] <@HiroPro> 11 after tonight [21:47] <austinmcc> yeah [21:47] <austinmcc> asked grey in QT about kill flavors 01[21:47] <@HiroPro> how many mislynches do we need? [21:47] <austinmcc> if it just says "x got shot" and not "x got shot by a sentry turret" then kill flavor won't matter [21:47] <austinmcc> even like "riddled full of holes" is fine 01[21:47] <@HiroPro> yea [21:47] <austinmcc> assuming no protects and no vigis 01[21:48] <@HiroPro> if your thing is flame [21:48] <austinmcc> 11 tomorrow, mislynch 1 to 10, 8 with NKs, mislynch to 7, 6 with NK, mislynch to 5, game ends that night [21:48] <austinmcc> my thing is bullets [21:48] <austinmcc> i'm an infinite bullet sentry turret 01[21:48] <@HiroPro> oh ok [21:48] <austinmcc> so that's 3 mislynches [21:48] <austinmcc> to win 01[21:48] <@HiroPro> 3 mislynches? [21:48] <austinmcc> assuming no third party [21:48] <austinmcc> no vigis [21:48] <austinmcc> no protects [21:48] <austinmcc> no nothings 01[21:48] <@HiroPro> and we need 2 of your kills or 1? 01[21:49] <@HiroPro> 1 right? [21:49] <austinmcc> 1 kill [21:49] <austinmcc> the second kill would take us to 3 players left with 2 of us being scum, so we'd win whether i get that kill or not 01[21:49] <@HiroPro> i don't think we can get 3 mislynches if you shoot s&b [21:49] <austinmcc> if I die before that last night [21:49] <austinmcc> then we'd need 4 i think [21:49] <austinmcc> okay [21:49] <austinmcc> i'm good shooting mattchew [21:49] <austinmcc> that's true that we're going to need good mislynch targets 01[21:50] <@HiroPro> yea [21:50] <austinmcc> and i guess it frees up tomorrow night's factional for anyone who comes out too strong 01[21:50] <@HiroPro> yes 1[21:51] <@HiroPro> and ill carry out the kill on memen 01[21:51] <@HiroPro> my role might be an issue later on... cause i won't know what i show up as visiting 01[21:52] <@HiroPro> cause i copy the visits of the person who i visit lol 01[21:52] <@HiroPro> but it does give me their alignment so i should still use it [21:54] <austinmcc> yeah. as long as you don't use it on me you'll come off town to DT checks. the only risk is...what. someone rolechecking the person you target and getting back your role [21:54] <austinmcc> then, if things go late, you might get tripped up if a roleclaim was forced [21:55] <austinmcc> even if you had a fakeclaim name, you couldn't really show you'd done anythign to anyone [21:55] <austinmcc> that's so far out there that it isn't worth orrying about though [21:55] <austinmcc> okay so [21:55] <austinmcc> kill mementoss [21:55] <austinmcc> .5 KP mattchew [21:55] <austinmcc> i'll write a case on mementoss tomorrow [21:55] <austinmcc> and some other normal night stuff | ||
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On October 12 2012 12:44 gonzaw wrote: But both scum thought I was legitimately scum as well :/ It's not that they thought I was town and tried to get an easy misslynch on me....scum thought I was from the other scum team (both of them I think) ....I don't know what to think of that lol N2 was the one where me and Jingle started that shitstorm right? I don't think there was nothing to do that night other than that though. Then you didn't read very well. Neither austin nor I thought that you were scum. We just thought that you weren't revealing exactly what your role was (in terms of wincon). | ||
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If I framed someone, I bussed my watch/track results with their watch/track results. | ||
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Edit: Well actually no you shouldn't have. It's entirely possible that scum were hiding their roles and someone else targeted me that night. Unlikely, but possible. My behavior should have gotten me lynched, but that's a different story. | ||
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On October 11 2012 11:46 JingleHell wrote: I'ma pull out a gonzaw defense for that wall of text. I don't remember that, I don't agree with that, you didn't understand me, why do you want me dead, I don't want to play mafia anymore. Did I do it right? | ||
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On October 12 2012 14:10 Crossfire99 wrote: Heck that's what made it scary to use Jingle's ability on someone to target me. We had no idea what their ability was. I figured there would have been a DT because there were 2 scum factions and at least 5 total. Also, I figured there would be more than just 1 town vig with that many scum, but meh. idk You needed to play townie enough to get some protection. | ||
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But it is very variable. Like a lot depends on the interaction of night actions. | ||
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On October 12 2012 14:13 gonzaw wrote: I would have thought he would have gotten protection on N1 though. I mean, he was like "confirmed town" by that point, wasn't him? Why didn't any of the 4 "medics" (Nisani, Kei, S&B, Mementos) protect him? lol Why would he get protection? He was pretty useless. Plopping a vote down doesn't make you "confirmed town" and it certainly doesn't merit receiving protection. | ||
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And having kanti be town when he was mentioned as a "being of great power" in balrog's PM was pretty funny too. | ||
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On October 12 2012 14:33 gonzaw wrote: He hammered a scum from the (at that point assumed) only scum faction in the game on D1. If he was town, scum would have it almost impossible to get him lynched and he would be considered pretty much confirmed town (like many did) because of that fact, whether he's useless or not. That's enough for scum to shoot him (if he were town), which is enough to get him protection (to avoid a scum shot), at least from 1 of the 4 medics. I'm glad they didn't though of course Did S&B/Kei target me or one of them that night? I don't really get how that's being invincible. If let's say S&B was shot that night...I'd get shot instead and die, right? It's not like they're aware that there are 4 medics.... And it's always better to protect the people who are actually scumhunting well (which on d1 was matt/mementoss). | ||
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So he couldn't defend himself and he couldn't move his vote. Not possible to save someone in that situation. If he had come back and given a defense, I would probably have backed off. | ||
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