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On October 11 2012 01:35 VisceraEyes wrote: What sucks about it is that scum can just leave him alive and kill ME tonight, setting town up for a mislynch if he IS town. X(
BC your play doesn't match what I see optimal as veteran play. You went AFK/passive early on when you should have been trying to get scum to shoot you.
Before you say it, yes I'm aware that whatever you did "worked" because you got shot. I'm just saying in general that you seemed...too passive to be Veteran. Explain.
Day 1 I didn't even know the game started for the first entire day, came home from work into the second day of it and saw my role pm. I then caught up on the thread and began posting. You are right in that I was more passive for day 1, but a ton of people were. The time I was around I attempted to move the lynch off of shady and kingjames while proposing new lynch prospects. Given that at the time of my posting people were slowly peeling from both kj and shady I thought I had done well then had do RL stuff and head back to work. The points I have been around I have made sure to be as productive as I can as well, my life is far busier then it used to be. It obviously makes me look off given my history as a player but I have done what I could. My play day 1 was suboptimal given my role, yet Scum still shot me, likely fearing what I can do as an active poster.
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On October 11 2012 01:43 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 01:42 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On October 11 2012 01:36 iamperfection wrote: but if we believe that mementoss is lying that would suggest that the scum role blocked one of their own correct. No one else made a claim of rb right?
I would say the scum team would invest a lot for this to be true. Memen making a fake claim and scum team wasting a role block. eh? You just don't use a rb, then have a scum member claim being hit by it. It adds an air of "confirmation" to a fakeclaim. As for alot to invest? Its day 4 and they just have had 3 red checks on them in a row. They would need something like this to try and do a comeback. they didnt know about the 3rd check.
True. However given the progression of the game thus far who's been harassed non stop and likely to have been up for a lynch? People have been pushing at kush every day, and each day a confirmed red took precidense. The only person they could hope to make a claim in any regards over and attempt to push to have killed is me given the information they would have and what at least two of them pushed as an idea in thread.
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VE, in which world does framer do more then swap someones role from green/blue to red? Like near universally it turns a green townies into mafia goons, and typically does the same to blues. It doesn't in any game I can remember turn a player from vanilla town into mafia power role. -_- Had kush flipped as a town paramedic, town coroner, or something similar I could understand him being labeled as red for it, but given that we have not had medics whos sanity was confused, (note a sanity change on you don't explain why he appeared as a power role) known watchers that act normally, vigi's that act normally, vets that act normally, why the fuck would the dts be different? Also why would the mafia have a role that only fucks with from what I can gather 1 role in the game.
You have a claim that makes no fing sense.
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On October 11 2012 22:59 Kreb wrote:Show nested quote +On October 11 2012 22:47 iamperfection wrote:On October 11 2012 21:53 Mementoss wrote: also if all roles are in this game, like you imply and no one counter claims VE there is no reason to lynch him am I right? ive been thinking on this. I dont think we can assume that private investigator is a town role. I think a mafia role cop is a possibility. Dudedudedudedudedudedude. This totally had me thinking. Look at this: + Show Spoiler +1. iamperfection2. Thrawn2112 ToutEstChaos, the Medical Examiner, has been killed Night 2! 3. BloodyC0bbler4. marvellosity, the Godfather, has been lynched day 2! 5. mkfuba07, the Paramedic, has been killed Night 2! 6. ShiaoPi7. austinmcc, the Concerned Citizen has been killed Night 2! 8. Mattchew9. risk.nuke10. Coagulation11. Z-BosoN12. Risen, the Paramedic, has been killed Night 1! 13. Keirathi14. Sharrant Promethelax, the Vigilante, has been killed Night 3! 15. VisceraEyes16. talismania DarthPunk17. slOosh18. annul, the Concerned Citizen, has been killed Night 1! 19. Node Hapahauli, the Enforcer, has been lynched Day 3! 20. Kreb21. Mementoss22. Shady Sands, the Concerned Citizen, has been lynched Day 1! 23. kushm4sta, the Concerned Citizen, has been lynched Day 4! 24. kingjames01, the Concerned Citizen, has been killed Night 1! 25. BroodKingEXE, the Concerned Citizen, has been killed Night 3!
Set-up: And this: + Show Spoiler +Lucky Citizen Vigilante Concerned Citizen Enforcer Hitman Paramedic Private Investigator Medical Examiner Coroner Detective Godfather Paranoid Arsonist
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And look at VEs claim: Show nested quote +On October 10 2012 06:28 VisceraEyes wrote: Well let me add...illusory weight to the Kush wagon. I'm a Private Investigator and last night I received Mafia Coroner when I checked kushm4sta.
N1 I was roleblocked.
N2 I checked Coag and he came back as town "Concerned Citizen".
Now e'erybody climb onboard the VE Failtrain of Glory(holes). Is it possible VE added the prefix Mafia to an existing role (could be both town or mafia)? Theres no Mafia prefix on any role BM ever mentioned. If so, thats a pretty telling slip.
Not a slip given that
On October 08 2012 13:01 BlackMamba24 wrote:Night 3 Breaking news tonight coming out from Liquid City: Prominent business owner and community figurehead Hapahauli was found dead today after being brutally beaten in his home in the late afternoon. Sources close to the scene of the crime witnessed a small group of people enter his home and kill the man while he was eating dinner. The head of the LCPD investigation unit issued this statement concerning the crime and Mr. Hapahauli himself: Show nested quote +Mr. Hapahauli was indeed killed by a group of local Liquidites. Upon further investigation of his household, he was found to have connections to the now passed mafia boss, Don Marvellosity. It is likely that these citizens took it upon themselves to dish out vigilante justice in light of these recent mafia related killings. We at the LCPD urge citizens to NOT become vigilantes, but instead report any suspicious activity to your local police department. It is indeed shocking to learn that someone of Hapahauli's status and prominence in the community was involved in clandestine crime. Once again, we here at Liquid City News urge citizens to take extreme caution while the police department investigates this crime family. Hapahauli, the Mafia Enforcer, was lynched! Flip: + Show Spoiler +You are the Enforcer. Your job is to carry out hits for the mafia. You have no additional powers. Night 3 has begun. You have 24 hours to send in all night actions to this account.
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On October 12 2012 05:33 Coagulation wrote: whats up bc. you should night kill ve for us
If I had a gun I woulda shot your useless ass days ago. Sadly I just had 1 extra night life. Lucky you.
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On October 12 2012 06:08 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 12 2012 05:17 BloodyC0bbler wrote: VE, in which world does framer do more then swap someones role from green/blue to red? Like near universally it turns a green townies into mafia goons, and typically does the same to blues. It doesn't in any game I can remember turn a player from vanilla town into mafia power role. -_- Had kush flipped as a town paramedic, town coroner, or something similar I could understand him being labeled as red for it, but given that we have not had medics whos sanity was confused, (note a sanity change on you don't explain why he appeared as a power role) known watchers that act normally, vigi's that act normally, vets that act normally, why the fuck would the dts be different? Also why would the mafia have a role that only fucks with from what I can gather 1 role in the game.
You have a claim that makes no fing sense. That's strange...because Godfathers only fuck with, from what I can gather, 1 role in the game... Anyway, it doesn't matter what world because we're playing a game in this world. And in this world, I received "Mafia Coroner" as my report from checking kush. If you don't believe that, that's fine. But that's a fact.
You see why I find the framer and sanity thing fucked up though? The only thing I can think of is that mafia has an ability to hide one of their own flips, but I don't know why they didnt use it on marv day 2 -_-
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On October 12 2012 06:17 Coagulation wrote: BC thats like exactly what I said less than a page ago. How are you gonna call me useless one post and then fucking parrot shit I already said with your very next post. Also how the fuck do you think mafia would benefit using it on marv when he pretty much all but claimed being mafia after he was caught.
he didn't have to troll if they have a power like that. He raged based on the role that caught him. If they had such a power at their advantage losing him wouldn't have been a "huge deal" regardless of how he was caught. Also, I call you useless because you have done pretty well dick all this game. You can't deny that.
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On October 12 2012 15:38 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm never checking BC you hear me? NEVER.
Just so you guys know, this is where VE gave his scumtell.
Why would a DT who gets back role / alignment not check the only player in the game suspected thus far of being third party who could out me if I am lying? Why would he only check someone we had the alignment of? The single only way for him to prove his sanity and thus the existence of a mafia framer was to check the one player in the game everyone believes is not town or mafia? Why? Because of all the people VE named last night as his check options I was most likely to be framed. Of all of them pushing me to be lynched right after to confirm framer existence would remove a player most of you believe to be anti town.
Instead he "checks" a player who has already claimed a role in thread thus to prove that a framer must exist. A town player would choose someone believed to be anti town as if that belief was correct a check would reveal a role that has not flipped.
Also, contrary to popular belief I was not shot, roleblocked, or any other form of night targeted that would kill me or inform me I was targeted.
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Also,
Myself, Kreb, Zboson, risk.nuke, keir, imperf and possibly coag are all likely town. Given the night actions and the way VE is currently playing, MMtoss is also likely town. Shiaopi is a null read to me.
Making remaining scum in the
VE (for sure) Sloosh Mattchew dp
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On October 13 2012 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 09:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On October 12 2012 15:38 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm never checking BC you hear me? NEVER. Just so you guys know, this is where VE gave his scumtell. Why would a DT who gets back role / alignment not check the only player in the game suspected thus far of being third party who could out me if I am lying? Why would he only check someone we had the alignment of? The single only way for him to prove his sanity and thus the existence of a mafia framer was to check the one player in the game everyone believes is not town or mafia? Why? Because of all the people VE named last night as his check options I was most likely to be framed. Of all of them pushing me to be lynched right after to confirm framer existence would remove a player most of you believe to be anti town. Instead he "checks" a player who has already claimed a role in thread thus to prove that a framer must exist. A town player would choose someone believed to be anti town as if that belief was correct a check would reveal a role that has not flipped. Also, contrary to popular belief I was not shot, roleblocked, or any other form of night targeted that would kill me or inform me I was targeted. It was because I was high and when I decided you're probably third, I saw "Paranoid Arsonist" and assumed that you can only fuck with people who target you. So no, I'm not checking you bro. Don't tell me who I would check. I told town that I didn't check someone I thought was scum already. I don't care if you don't like that.
Incorrect. Checking me proved if framer existed / confirmed me or you. Why? Because If I am third party and you revealed the wrong role I would out you and you'd die in a 1 for 1 trade with me. This would benefit the town. Stress THIS WOULD BENEFIT TOWN.
In any exchange I would always be offed first given the massive suspicion on me and it would confirm your theory while removing what everyone believes an anti town influence from the game. Yet instead you opted to check SOMEONE WHO HAS ALREADY CLAIMED. Who no one has doubted the claim of. Unlike any other player in the game, it has been proven I cannot be scum, thus if you are mafia and believe I am third party you would have to guess at my role. If you are town you would receive my role.
As for you just claiming that you thought I was paranoid arsonist and assumed I can only fuck with people that target me? Why did node not die the moment he targeted me? Why did I not off him before he was replaced? Does this mean you doubt MMtoss claim because he also visited me and nothing has happened to him?
Please enlighten me.
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On October 13 2012 09:22 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 09:20 BloodyC0bbler wrote: Also,
Myself, Kreb, Zboson, risk.nuke, keir, imperf and possibly coag are all likely town. Given the night actions and the way VE is currently playing, MMtoss is also likely town. Shiaopi is a null read to me.
Making remaining scum in the
VE (for sure) Sloosh Mattchew dp You're being ridiculous. How do I go from "Dude he's obviously contributing, generating discussion and etc etc" to "Dude he's obviously scum" Work with me here - you're not going to get town to lynch me. I promise you.
You made the biggest scumtell I have ever seen. Easily. Anyone can look back into the thread and see your only defense is the existence of a role that is meant to only fuck with you. You did speculation of sanity, a possible framer, or a role that essentially hides the flip of a player. Guess what? I don't believe any of these roles exist. There was already a GF and given that I highly doubt mafia had a secondary role that only fucked with 1 blue role in the entire game that was already useless towards one mafia player.
Then you opt not to check the only player in the game that has been confirmed NOT SCUM. Thanks but you slipped, hard, and you don't get away with it.
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On October 13 2012 09:30 VisceraEyes wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 09:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On October 13 2012 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 13 2012 09:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On October 12 2012 15:38 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm never checking BC you hear me? NEVER. Just so you guys know, this is where VE gave his scumtell. Why would a DT who gets back role / alignment not check the only player in the game suspected thus far of being third party who could out me if I am lying? Why would he only check someone we had the alignment of? The single only way for him to prove his sanity and thus the existence of a mafia framer was to check the one player in the game everyone believes is not town or mafia? Why? Because of all the people VE named last night as his check options I was most likely to be framed. Of all of them pushing me to be lynched right after to confirm framer existence would remove a player most of you believe to be anti town. Instead he "checks" a player who has already claimed a role in thread thus to prove that a framer must exist. A town player would choose someone believed to be anti town as if that belief was correct a check would reveal a role that has not flipped. Also, contrary to popular belief I was not shot, roleblocked, or any other form of night targeted that would kill me or inform me I was targeted. It was because I was high and when I decided you're probably third, I saw "Paranoid Arsonist" and assumed that you can only fuck with people who target you. So no, I'm not checking you bro. Don't tell me who I would check. I told town that I didn't check someone I thought was scum already. I don't care if you don't like that. Incorrect. Checking me proved if framer existed / confirmed me or you. Why? Because If I am third party and you revealed the wrong role I would out you and you'd die in a 1 for 1 trade with me. This would benefit the town. Stress THIS WOULD BENEFIT TOWN. In any exchange I would always be offed first given the massive suspicion on me and it would confirm your theory while removing what everyone believes an anti town influence from the game. Yet instead you opted to check SOMEONE WHO HAS ALREADY CLAIMED. Who no one has doubted the claim of. Unlike any other player in the game, it has been proven I cannot be scum, thus if you are mafia and believe I am third party you would have to guess at my role. If you are town you would receive my role. As for you just claiming that you thought I was paranoid arsonist and assumed I can only fuck with people that target me? Why did node not die the moment he targeted me? Why did I not off him before he was replaced? Does this mean you doubt MMtoss claim because he also visited me and nothing has happened to him? Please enlighten me. Arsonist primes target - chooses when to ignite or whether to ignite. Or something. I don't know BC. All I know is that "Paranoid" is in the title. I understand that my check didn't benefit town. I've already explained it was for me. I suspect you of third because you're not scum and you're not PLAYING like any townBC I've ever seen. But I'm not interested in "removing you from the game" because I don't KNOW that you're third...and I don't fucking CARE BC because I'm looking for SCUM. Why do you "know" that I'm scum now? That's so against everything you've been saying all game.
For the same reason I fucked Mattchew last game. You fucked up. You made the biggest slip in this entire game. One thats only going to be caught by a seasoned player. Simple. You are using role speculation as a reason to not check the only person in the game that
A) is believed to be third party B) Confirmed not mafia.
This simple check as much as you "dont want to remove me from the game" would have removed a potential third party thus not town, while confirming the existence of a framer or a mafia cover up role while CONFIRMING YOUR FUCKING ALIGNMENT.
This is the best and most efficient use of the gd role you claimed while removing a believed anti town and confirming yourself. It then *gasp* confirms coag removing 3 players from the fucking pool of people to be analyzed, forcing mafia to shoot into a pool of players etc....
You take any bit of control they might be getting in thread and remove it. Instead you "checked" for your personal use, Dts don't check for themselves, they check for town. Unless you are scum, then you check to ensure the watcher was a real watcher and not bullshitting, or you check your scumbuddy and confirm his "claim"
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Compound into you have done near nothing townlike this entire game day, and instead are flailing around and calling people out. Refusing to actually continue to argue with zboson? Why would a townie do that? If you believe hes scum the more heated you get the more likely he outs himself and his team.
Instead you bail, afraid youll slip up yo?
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On October 13 2012 09:47 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 09:36 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On October 13 2012 09:30 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 13 2012 09:25 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On October 13 2012 09:19 VisceraEyes wrote:On October 13 2012 09:16 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On October 12 2012 15:38 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm never checking BC you hear me? NEVER. Just so you guys know, this is where VE gave his scumtell. Why would a DT who gets back role / alignment not check the only player in the game suspected thus far of being third party who could out me if I am lying? Why would he only check someone we had the alignment of? The single only way for him to prove his sanity and thus the existence of a mafia framer was to check the one player in the game everyone believes is not town or mafia? Why? Because of all the people VE named last night as his check options I was most likely to be framed. Of all of them pushing me to be lynched right after to confirm framer existence would remove a player most of you believe to be anti town. Instead he "checks" a player who has already claimed a role in thread thus to prove that a framer must exist. A town player would choose someone believed to be anti town as if that belief was correct a check would reveal a role that has not flipped. Also, contrary to popular belief I was not shot, roleblocked, or any other form of night targeted that would kill me or inform me I was targeted. It was because I was high and when I decided you're probably third, I saw "Paranoid Arsonist" and assumed that you can only fuck with people who target you. So no, I'm not checking you bro. Don't tell me who I would check. I told town that I didn't check someone I thought was scum already. I don't care if you don't like that. Incorrect. Checking me proved if framer existed / confirmed me or you. Why? Because If I am third party and you revealed the wrong role I would out you and you'd die in a 1 for 1 trade with me. This would benefit the town. Stress THIS WOULD BENEFIT TOWN. In any exchange I would always be offed first given the massive suspicion on me and it would confirm your theory while removing what everyone believes an anti town influence from the game. Yet instead you opted to check SOMEONE WHO HAS ALREADY CLAIMED. Who no one has doubted the claim of. Unlike any other player in the game, it has been proven I cannot be scum, thus if you are mafia and believe I am third party you would have to guess at my role. If you are town you would receive my role. As for you just claiming that you thought I was paranoid arsonist and assumed I can only fuck with people that target me? Why did node not die the moment he targeted me? Why did I not off him before he was replaced? Does this mean you doubt MMtoss claim because he also visited me and nothing has happened to him? Please enlighten me. Arsonist primes target - chooses when to ignite or whether to ignite. Or something. I don't know BC. All I know is that "Paranoid" is in the title. I understand that my check didn't benefit town. I've already explained it was for me. I suspect you of third because you're not scum and you're not PLAYING like any townBC I've ever seen. But I'm not interested in "removing you from the game" because I don't KNOW that you're third...and I don't fucking CARE BC because I'm looking for SCUM. Why do you "know" that I'm scum now? That's so against everything you've been saying all game. For the same reason I fucked Mattchew last game. You fucked up. You made the biggest slip in this entire game. One thats only going to be caught by a seasoned player. Simple. You are using role speculation as a reason to not check the only person in the game that A) is believed to be third party B) Confirmed not mafia. This simple check as much as you "dont want to remove me from the game" would have removed a potential third party thus not town, while confirming the existence of a framer or a mafia cover up role while CONFIRMING YOUR FUCKING ALIGNMENT. This is the best and most efficient use of the gd role you claimed while removing a believed anti town and confirming yourself. It then *gasp* confirms coag removing 3 players from the fucking pool of people to be analyzed, forcing mafia to shoot into a pool of players etc.... You take any bit of control they might be getting in thread and remove it. Instead you "checked" for your personal use, Dts don't check for themselves, they check for town. Unless you are scum, then you check to ensure the watcher was a real watcher and not bullshitting, or you check your scumbuddy and confirm his "claim" Why?? Because he's right or because he's wrong?
It outs him fully and completely regardless of his alignment. It also potentially outs a third party.
How in any sane mind is it ok to not confirm a potential non town player while confirming not just yourself, but two other players in the process? You in 1 fell swoop remove 4 players from a pool of potential mafia and thus have a serious ground to scumhunt and leave the town in a Insanely superior position.
There are 13 players alive by my count.
Removing 4 of those from a pool of suspects? you have 9 players that could combine the remaining scum. Not just that based on the amount of shots on average per night, it looks like top kp is 2 atm by scum. IE of 3 remaining players from the situation I outlined, at least 1 would still be alive or two depending on the situation. It also allows everyone to begin analyzing on the only people in the game that matter as they would be the only remaining players that could be scum. Any player who gives a shit as town would at least attempt to prove them self not scum in some manner, while scum would be eventually fucked quite quickly.
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On October 13 2012 09:54 VisceraEyes wrote: Or in other words:
"He didn't check who I would have checked, ergo, scum."
Welcome back. Also no, you didnt check to benefit town, ergo scum. You admitted it.
Also you spent to much time on setup speculation rather then real scum hunting. Even now your play is not remotely town. Giving up because people are pushing at you? You would know that you put yourself in that situation with the kush flip. A town player would have done anything to prove himself instead of "ima do what I want and youll accept it"
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On October 13 2012 09:56 Z-BosoN wrote: Then why didn't he just say he confirmed you as 3rd party? If he realized this, as scum, he would have said exactly that, no?
He would have to know exactly which role third party was, does third party appear as a different role to dt checks, etc....
A third party role at this point in time is a complete unknown as no one knows what it will flip. Thus it is the only role that could clear him from all suspicion while clearing all of his current checks. Given that the best shot for said check was me, why would he not do it? Why would he try to only benefit himself instead of trying to benefit the entire town? He has no way to know that he won't die at night thus should be using his checks as efficiently as possible to benefit the town, yet he hasn't.
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On October 13 2012 10:19 Z-BosoN wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 10:06 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On October 13 2012 09:56 Z-BosoN wrote: Then why didn't he just say he confirmed you as 3rd party? If he realized this, as scum, he would have said exactly that, no? He would have to know exactly which role third party was, does third party appear as a different role to dt checks, etc.... A third party role at this point in time is a complete unknown as no one knows what it will flip. Thus it is the only role that could clear him from all suspicion while clearing all of his current checks. Given that the best shot for said check was me, why would he not do it? Why would he try to only benefit himself instead of trying to benefit the entire town? He has no way to know that he won't die at night thus should be using his checks as efficiently as possible to benefit the town, yet he hasn't. Why not just say something like serial killer? Regardless of what he'd said you would have gone after him calling him scum because you are actually town, no?
Most definetly, but I would have been killed and him confirmed. Along with two checks. He has outright said he is playing in his own self interests as opposed to that of the town, He has outright admitted he doesn't give two shits for the town and will do as he pleases. This is not a townie mentality.
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On October 13 2012 10:21 iamperfection wrote: .....BloodyC0bbler you accuse ve of not playing his role properly yet you yourself are the one that LIED causing the shit storm of what claims we should believe. Your lying showed you cared of one thing and one thing only your survival. You can die now 3rd party. We should of lynched you the second we found out about your lie it makes no sense from a town perspective. Your lying only pushed forward your interests of survival.
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I lied about a medic prot. I have already addressed why and near universally its a normal play. Please tell me how not letting the mafia know they shot a vet and make them try and figure out how many protective roles are in the game is at all a bad play? The only people who should honestly care about the # of blues is mafia unless the # gets astronomically high that it just doesn't add up. Then town cares.
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On October 13 2012 10:29 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 10:24 Kreb wrote:On October 13 2012 10:21 iamperfection wrote: .....BloodyC0bbler you accuse ve of not playing his role properly yet you yourself are the one that LIED causing the shit storm of what claims we should believe. Your lying showed you cared of one thing and one thing only your survival. You can die now 3rd party. We should of lynched you the second we found out about your lie it makes no sense from a town perspective. Your lying only pushed forward your interests of survival.
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O.o Wait, what? How did BCs lie cause MMToss or VE to claim? And what the shitstorm about it anyway, everyone is (supposedly) playing towards their wincon, Town by rightfully claiming Town, scum by making false claims. Shitstorm? Elaborate please. Ve claimed he was a veteran but first he claimed medic protection. He lied kill him. Its not optimal play no matter what he says it just leads to confusion. Why should i believe anything BloodyC0bbler say in relation to anything. And i didnt say it caused somebody to claim i said it just adds to confusion because his lie causes confusion with relation to other players claims.
How does it cause confusion? The confusion with Mementoss was not my lie, it was the timing of his claim, mixed with his checks, the roleblock, how he did it.
The issue with VE is he claimed dt, his target appeared nothing related to his claim, and he spent time wifom possible setup speculations on why that was. He acts as a confirmed blue where he is not. Currently the confusion isn't my claim, the confusion was brought to both players by me given blind belief in ones claim should not be taken. Whereas my claim is the most confirmed given that of VE and Mementoss, one has confirmed I was infact visited by a mafia goon, thus I could only have been shot.
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On October 13 2012 10:32 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On October 13 2012 10:28 BloodyC0bbler wrote:On October 13 2012 10:21 iamperfection wrote: .....BloodyC0bbler you accuse ve of not playing his role properly yet you yourself are the one that LIED causing the shit storm of what claims we should believe. Your lying showed you cared of one thing and one thing only your survival. You can die now 3rd party. We should of lynched you the second we found out about your lie it makes no sense from a town perspective. Your lying only pushed forward your interests of survival.
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I lied about a medic prot. I have already addressed why and near universally its a normal play. Please tell me how not letting the mafia know they shot a vet and make them try and figure out how many protective roles are in the game is at all a bad play? The only people who should honestly care about the # of blues is mafia unless the # gets astronomically high that it just doesn't add up. Then town cares. you should have said nothing if you were town instead playing gambits it just adds to the confusion. Why should i believe you? it seems from my point of view you only cared about your survival.
Said nothing? And not inform the town of all the hits in one single night? The only person who benefits from hiding KP from the town is third party or scum.
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