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On September 23 2012 06:26 Mementoss wrote: A lil wifom, remember Hiro made his first case on GK (Palmar) and Palmar was pushing Hiro pretty hard before he died. not sure what I make of this. Now we have a little context on this. BH last words. He must been right about more than 1 in his top 4 to die because honestly he was pretty wrong on prplhz and didn't contribute that much after that fact. to be fair bh had no extra information and we now know that palmar is scum. And kind unfortunatly bh gave bluelightz almost a free pass to do whatever he wants if he is scum. | ||
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On September 23 2012 06:41 Hapahauli wrote: Guys guys guys. Guys. Bluelightz? Still think he's scum, can someone comment on this? http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=369250¤tpage=59#1171 Also: its hard to say but the unvote from palmar to ange has absolutley no reason for it unless he can predict the future. | ||
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On September 23 2012 06:49 austinmcc wrote: (1) hooray (2) still not scum is it ok if we dont take your word for it? | ||
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@ hiro Why didnt you dump reads when you should have been shitting your pants about to be lynched? | ||
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On September 23 2012 02:33 ghost_403 wrote: V-V-V-V-VOTE COUNT: Ange777 ( 5 ) austinmcc, bluelightz, Hapahauli, HiroPro, iamperfection marvellosity ( 1 ) Palmar Palmar ( 4 ) Ange777, Marvellosity, Mementoss, Zephirdd With 10 alive, it takes 6 to lynch! Presently, no one is set to be lynched! 3.5 hours remain in Day 2! @ hapa i think palmar was counting on me, you and mementoss not switching our votes. I think this would imply that ange is likely town. I said at one point i wasent going to switch my vote so it leads me to believe that he was counting on it. Also like we have stated i think the suspicion on ange was founded so i think he was counting on an ange mis lynch. He would have counted on that and it leads me to believe the final 2 scum are within austin blue and hiropro. I think that is the most likely conclusion. | ||
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On September 23 2012 22:53 austinmcc wrote: I still think ange is scum, that's independent of palmar. I think the question about confirming the mason claim + not responding to that at all + seemingly lynching whether they claimed mason or not = scum in my mind. The rest is all super hypothetical, but I'll spew some nonsense. I'm assuming 3 scum no SK at this point, that's "most likely" afaik. Thoughts: Ange's response to my mountain question was really cagey. When grush has responded, he's tended to follow a pattern of "what is the equivalent of that descriptor in mafia terms (tallest = what in mafia game?, like that), and then answer based off of what he thinks a descriptor means in terms of mafia. Sometimes he's failed to answer, but still provided the reasoning for what he thinks a descriptor means. Ange's answer was just names. THIS IS NOT A GOOD REASON TO LYNCH SOMEONE OR FIND SOMEONE SCUMMY. BUT, I can't help but interpret her answer. The short, cagey answers make me worried. No reasoning, no explanation, no nothing. Ange hasn't played in either of the games I've asked grush similar questions. I haven't explained why I ask those questions. Her answers, as I see them, show that she doesn't want to reveal her hand at all, and just gives names. I worry about that, and the fact that she does so makes me think that IF she's scum, then the remaining scum (assuming 3) is someone who HAS played in PTP3 or LVII, or at the very least obsed them (If I got those questions from someone, I'd have no clue why they were asking. Ange didn't play in either of those games. Ange should find those questions VERY ODD. She answered them, which to me indicates that someone in QT told her about that stupid questions I've been asking Grush). Therefore, IF scumange, THEN scumsomeonewhoplayedinoneofthose games, leading me to sort of discard bluelightz as scum (I believe iamperfection, marv, hiro, zephir all played in or read those games). Another ange thought, her response to votes when she came back was very long, very thorough, pretty well thought out. Gut read - that post was crafted, and someone with at least a little experience in playing scum helped shape that in QT. That doesn't really get me anything though as I know palmar was alive at the point that answer was crafted, so ange's post doesn't necessarily give away anything about the 3rd scum if 3 scum. I need to fully reread Hiro. I just lynched him for being off/less active in PTP3 than I remembered him in town games. That's the reasoning we have for the lynch here. I'm going to be hesitant to lynch on that reasoning (or loosely on that reasoning) when I mislynched on the same grounds last game. So I need to figure out where I went wrong, and see what Hiro shakes out this game. I have a mild townread on Hiro based on that Palmar entrance comment, so right now I would NOT put him as my third scum. That leaves...marv, zephir, you (bluelightz is out based on mountain answer, hiro out atm). For NOW, the most likely scenario is NOT marv. marv would normally not get too much cred from me for his read on palmar. but the rb helps craft a better marv town/palmar scum story, and I'll go with it for now. Since you asked it "most likely," I've got to admit that holding the rb and marv claiming it is less likely than marv town. I think it's absolutely plausible that they'd play games with the rb, but certainly not 50+% likely. Also, like I noted at the end of N1, marv/ange interactions D1 were maybe a little wonky. Guh, I really seem to want to make marv scummy here, but no. Most likely town. So now I've got zephirdd, iamperfection for 3rd scum (still assuming 3). Right at the moment I don't have a preference between those two? Off the top of my head zephir has felt scummier I guess? I'd need to look harder at the two of you. That answer for third scum sucks, but it's what I have right at this moment. There's the rest of my thoughts on a couple players though. I think your making a big stretch there and making a lot of assumptions. I think palmars whole plan was to have mis lynch on ange then probally dominate the town conversation from then on forward. A green flip i think would have caused a lot of confusion i think and the marv palmar fighting would just continue giving palmar more time to push further agendas. So im 99% certian ange is town. | ||
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On September 23 2012 23:35 austinmcc wrote: The response to the mountain question doesn't lead to any kind of strong read, but that's where my thoughts go based on her answer. I would ask, however, why, if Palmar's plan was to have a mis lynch on ange, he wouldn't vote ange. Is your line of thinking "Palmar knows town finds he scummy, therefore he calls ange town, hoping people will lynch her harder because she's got a townread from Palmar?" That's ALSO pretty tenuous. I'm not sure how you're interpreting Palmar's actions to yield that plan. he cant vote ange that would be the whole point. | ||
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On September 23 2012 23:53 austinmcc wrote: So then what do you make of the end of D2? We had ange wagon, palmar wagon, and then hiro swap towards the end. If you have a hard time thinking we had two wagons on scum, do you feel that hiro is townie? I have to reasses things if your town. I think you have defended yourself fairly well and i see how you can think the things you are thinking if you are town I do think hiro is full of shit though. i think if i was under that much pressure as he was twoards the end i would dump as many reads as i can and i would probally troll the shit out of hapa and mementoss if i was in the same situation. | ||
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thats nice and all. Where you think the scum are at? | ||
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On September 24 2012 04:48 HiroPro wrote: ange is scum. I don't care enough to figure out who else is. And not like you're going to listen to me anyway lol. are you fucking serious. | ||
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On September 24 2012 06:25 Hapahauli wrote: Thoughts on the NK marv? Pretty strange one that is. they thought the defense was real good maybe? | ||
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On September 24 2012 06:28 marvellosity wrote: \erm, fucking useful? literally i don't know how to speculate when they had you, confirmed town to hit, and Mementoss, semi-confirmed town to hit, or me to hit. I don't understand it at all actually. Trying to discredit me? Let me go a little austin on you for a moment - Mementoss is SK, I blocked scum hit and Mementoss hit austin. Before you all shout at me, I agree that's pretty fucking unlikely, but yeah. I'm only mentioning it because I don't understand the kill at all. ...............................................and you just yelled at hapa | ||
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On September 24 2012 06:28 marvellosity wrote: erm, fucking useful? literally i don't know how to speculate when they had you, confirmed town to hit, and Mementoss, semi-confirmed town to hit, or me to hit. I don't understand it at all actually. Trying to discredit me? Let me go a little austin on you for a moment - Mementoss is SK, I blocked scum hit and Mementoss hit austin. Before you all shout at me, I agree that's pretty fucking unlikely, but yeah. I'm only mentioning it because I don't understand the kill at all. | ||
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On September 24 2012 06:34 HiroPro wrote: marv is the SK. he slipped. he slipped but in another way. | ||
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On September 24 2012 06:36 HiroPro wrote: no that's what he wants you to think. ## vote Hiropro get out | ||
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