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On August 29 2012 16:06 Shady Sands wrote: Vote Lvdr or else I will call my friend to find your IP address and DDOS you back to the stone age. Try your best son.
On Lvdr though, he's my suspect #4. Being #4 on my list, he still has 70-30 odds of being a scumbag. My reasons are slightly different though, he's taking advantage from my case over Chezinu/talis/iamp trio that I used him for and using this advantage into laying low for a bit. I don't like that.
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On August 29 2012 16:20 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 16:17 Djagulingu wrote:On August 29 2012 16:06 Shady Sands wrote: Vote Lvdr or else I will call my friend to find your IP address and DDOS you back to the stone age. Try your best son. On Lvdr though, he's my suspect #4. Being #4 on my list, he still has 70-30 odds of being a scumbag. My reasons are slightly different though, he's taking advantage from my case over Chezinu/talis/iamp trio that I used him for and using this advantage into laying low for a bit. I don't like that. Except he's laid low ever since the D1 mislynch. And how is him using your case on Chez/talis/IamP turn into an advantage that lets him lay low for a bit? He sees that he's currently out of the spotlight and thinks that we now see him as a townie (at least me) but still afraid to come into the discussion because he doesn't want back in. I don't like that. Why would a townie be afraid of the spotlight in the first place?
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On August 29 2012 16:28 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 16:25 Djagulingu wrote:On August 29 2012 16:20 Shady Sands wrote:On August 29 2012 16:17 Djagulingu wrote:On August 29 2012 16:06 Shady Sands wrote: Vote Lvdr or else I will call my friend to find your IP address and DDOS you back to the stone age. Try your best son. On Lvdr though, he's my suspect #4. Being #4 on my list, he still has 70-30 odds of being a scumbag. My reasons are slightly different though, he's taking advantage from my case over Chezinu/talis/iamp trio that I used him for and using this advantage into laying low for a bit. I don't like that. Except he's laid low ever since the D1 mislynch. And how is him using your case on Chez/talis/IamP turn into an advantage that lets him lay low for a bit? He sees that he's currently out of the spotlight and thinks that we now see him as a townie (at least me) but still afraid to come into the discussion because he doesn't want back in. I don't like that. Why would a townie be afraid of the spotlight in the first place? Got it. And none of my other tells on him stick? Show nested quote +So Lvdr at this point has offered the town no reads at all since D1, while claiming to have scumreads on 2 people. In addition he's sheeping Marv yet again and making excuses for his lurky behavior when he clearly had a much higher activity level in the game where he was town. I don't know which one is worse. The way he's playing on day 3 or this being actually a progress. He provided zero reads (except for talismania, if you call that a read that is) until the end of day 2, now comes up with the read on talismania. There is something wrong with him but I don't know what.
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On August 29 2012 16:43 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 16:41 Djagulingu wrote:On August 29 2012 16:28 Shady Sands wrote:On August 29 2012 16:25 Djagulingu wrote:On August 29 2012 16:20 Shady Sands wrote:On August 29 2012 16:17 Djagulingu wrote:On August 29 2012 16:06 Shady Sands wrote: Vote Lvdr or else I will call my friend to find your IP address and DDOS you back to the stone age. Try your best son. On Lvdr though, he's my suspect #4. Being #4 on my list, he still has 70-30 odds of being a scumbag. My reasons are slightly different though, he's taking advantage from my case over Chezinu/talis/iamp trio that I used him for and using this advantage into laying low for a bit. I don't like that. Except he's laid low ever since the D1 mislynch. And how is him using your case on Chez/talis/IamP turn into an advantage that lets him lay low for a bit? He sees that he's currently out of the spotlight and thinks that we now see him as a townie (at least me) but still afraid to come into the discussion because he doesn't want back in. I don't like that. Why would a townie be afraid of the spotlight in the first place? Got it. And none of my other tells on him stick? So Lvdr at this point has offered the town no reads at all since D1, while claiming to have scumreads on 2 people. In addition he's sheeping Marv yet again and making excuses for his lurky behavior when he clearly had a much higher activity level in the game where he was town. I don't know which one is worse. The way he's playing on day 3 or this being actually a progress. He provided zero reads (except for talismania, if you call that a read that is) until the end of day 2, now comes up with the read on talismania. There is something wrong with him but I don't know what. So even with all that you're still reading him as less scummy than Talis, who has actually stepped up tremendously in posting? I mean, Talis even somehow got Chez to stop trolling all of us. That's crazy. Also, I find it odd how you could call for a Talis/Chez/IamP scumteam when the three were basically on the verge of FoSing each other earlier today. It reminded me of the ending scene from the Good the Bad and the Ugly in there for a while. It was at least 70% my effort that helped Chez to stop with the trolling bullshit of him (that is if he actually stopped).
And this shit reminds me of the Reservoir Dogs more than the Good the Bad and the Ugly. Up until I called them out, nobody was doing nothing, now they felt their asses are on fire and they are all trying to find who was the leak.
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On August 29 2012 17:00 Shady Sands wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 16:55 Djagulingu wrote:On August 29 2012 16:43 Shady Sands wrote:On August 29 2012 16:41 Djagulingu wrote:On August 29 2012 16:28 Shady Sands wrote:On August 29 2012 16:25 Djagulingu wrote:On August 29 2012 16:20 Shady Sands wrote:On August 29 2012 16:17 Djagulingu wrote:On August 29 2012 16:06 Shady Sands wrote: Vote Lvdr or else I will call my friend to find your IP address and DDOS you back to the stone age. Try your best son. On Lvdr though, he's my suspect #4. Being #4 on my list, he still has 70-30 odds of being a scumbag. My reasons are slightly different though, he's taking advantage from my case over Chezinu/talis/iamp trio that I used him for and using this advantage into laying low for a bit. I don't like that. Except he's laid low ever since the D1 mislynch. And how is him using your case on Chez/talis/IamP turn into an advantage that lets him lay low for a bit? He sees that he's currently out of the spotlight and thinks that we now see him as a townie (at least me) but still afraid to come into the discussion because he doesn't want back in. I don't like that. Why would a townie be afraid of the spotlight in the first place? Got it. And none of my other tells on him stick? So Lvdr at this point has offered the town no reads at all since D1, while claiming to have scumreads on 2 people. In addition he's sheeping Marv yet again and making excuses for his lurky behavior when he clearly had a much higher activity level in the game where he was town. I don't know which one is worse. The way he's playing on day 3 or this being actually a progress. He provided zero reads (except for talismania, if you call that a read that is) until the end of day 2, now comes up with the read on talismania. There is something wrong with him but I don't know what. So even with all that you're still reading him as less scummy than Talis, who has actually stepped up tremendously in posting? I mean, Talis even somehow got Chez to stop trolling all of us. That's crazy. Also, I find it odd how you could call for a Talis/Chez/IamP scumteam when the three were basically on the verge of FoSing each other earlier today. It reminded me of the ending scene from the Good the Bad and the Ugly in there for a while. It was at least 70% my effort that helped Chez to stop with the trolling bullshit of him (that is if he actually stopped). And this shit reminds me of the Reservoir Dogs more than the Good the Bad and the Ugly. Up until I called them out, nobody was doing nothing, now they felt their asses are on fire and they are all trying to find who was the leak. Fair enough. But is that behavior worth a vote? I mean, generally scum don't alter their behavior in response to a townread, only to votes, yet they all changed their behavior before you even voted them. They all changed their behavior? Not until the end of D2, I called them out on N2 when they were still the same. In D3, they are going around FoSing each other and shit. They are smart enough to do this change more smoothly though.
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EBWOP: At least that's what I'm thinking now.ç
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You're right Shady, so let's go back to the basics:
iamperfection: Goes in for BL, sheeps onto Marv at the end of day 1, Obv gets lynched. Day 2, he goes in for BL again with this:
On August 25 2012 12:55 iamperfection wrote: We finish what we should have done yesterday.
## Vote Bluelightz I agree that shit that BL did was odd and there was nobody else other than me and him in the day 2, thinking that BL could be a scumbag.
End of D2, he goes in on me right after you, tries to interrogate me a bit, but because I was sleeping, I didn't answer, his vote on me stood. Looks pretty good up to now.
D3, he starts by defending Chezinu from me, looks to get persuaded then, pulls back his vote from me. Up to now, he looks pretty good. But still,
On August 29 2012 00:40 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 00:36 Shady Sands wrote: IamP, what's your read on Chez? Not DJ or anyone else, just Chez. He is a troll so I dont know. this seems a bit dodgy. Nothing except this though.
talismania:
On August 23 2012 06:59 talismania wrote:Show nested quote +On August 23 2012 06:54 VisceraEyes wrote:On August 23 2012 06:51 Lvdr wrote: Take 3: Does VE have a history of successfully reading scum d1? aka What is the chance that Shady flips red based on Ve's read? AH, the CRUX. In asking if I have a history of "successfully reading scum D1", ven if I have 100% accuracy in the past, this is completely meaningless unless you are operating under the premise that I'm town and am READING Shady. It shows his true thoughts on me (that I'm town) hiding beneath his actions (his vote, the questions, the ruse) and betrays preexisting knowledge of my alignment. Chez, you truly are inspirational. ##Unvote ##Vote Lvdr holy shit that's genius ##vote:lvdr Besides the post that was composed of his poor end-of-day1 reads, all he did in day 1 in terms of scumhunting is this. Sheeping on Lvdr. Day 2, he only comes in to vote. Day 3, he was on me and my move on D2 for the whole time he was here. After I made my defense about it, he has gone away and never come back. He should have done more imo.
On August 29 2012 13:25 iamperfection wrote:Show nested quote +On August 13 2012 12:27 talismania wrote: /in
don't think I'll be as superactive as I was in mad men but I should meet my normal standards. Tails said he wouldnt be as active this is a completetly diffrent then his actvity levels in the mad men game. I dont understand Show nested quote +On August 24 2012 15:31 talismania wrote: sorry to everyone and the hosts for being completely absent today. I'm basically only able to post at work (I prefer spending time with gf when at home - she was out of town for most of mad men) and today ended up being kind of crazy in lab. I knew these past two weeks would be a little rough hence my pregame post but that's no excuse for entirely missing the last day of the cycle :-(
off to bed, I'll read through in the am. So he apologizes for being afk so much but then does this Show nested quote +On August 27 2012 10:50 talismania wrote: ##vote: dj
Sorry went camping no clue whats going on but just saw the vote total hope this helps Why not warn us that he is going camping? I think its because he full of shit ## Vote talismania Like Iamperfection says here, he's full of shit.
Chezinu: He plays around with his votes for the most of the time on day 1, trying to look like he's participating scum hunts and shit. Votes on D1 have little to no explanations though. Then, on D2 he places his vote on Lvdr, doesn't seem to explain a reason, then on me, still no reason, comes back to explain his reasons in this:
On August 29 2012 06:01 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On August 29 2012 05:24 Djagulingu wrote:
Sorry to say but he's bandwagoning for 2 days of game time without providing reasons. He bandwagoned on Obvious, then Lvdr, then me. After bandwagoning on me on D2, I'm only 8th in his list in D3. Some things don't make sense here.
Read my filter. If you really want reasons so bad, I will tell you. Palmar is known to be a great player as well as VE. They were really the only two people I focused on during day 1. If any one was going to get lynched, it was suspects chosen by one of the two. We end up trying to lynch lvdr first. He was one of my first suspects. Then I saw VE defending him and accused VE. Palmar comes into the thread suspecting obvious. Knowing Palmar had a talent of finding scum I voted obvious along with him. I had suspicions at the time that mafia was trying to get a no lynch because the votes were so spread out. So, I tried to get people to consolidate their vote. No one was voting obvious, so I think I might have switch to lvdr after that - I don't fully recall, you can check if you want. I know I was busy in RL at the time and disappeared for a while. When I came back somehow everyone was voting bluelight - I don't recall the reason. To aviod a no lynch, I jumped on board. Then blue was acting as if he was already dead. I remember writing in the thread that I thought it wasn't insta lynch - which I ended up being right. Blue has an ephany and realizes that he wasn't dead and posts a document calling almost everyone town. It was funny and we all laughed. Then we realized that mafia would never let one of their own members do something so foolish. So we decided to switch after the realization that everyone was actively lurking (we could see how many people viewed the document). So we jumped on to Palmar's suspect, Obvious. Cause Palmar had the best chance of catching scum. Unfortunately, obvious was town. Then mafia killed Palmar, who was the most towniest of all of us. It reminded me of when WBG died in my last game (however this reference is meaningless this game cause VE is no longer playing and no one will get my references), Now for Day 2...day 2 is kind of a blurr to me. I do remember voting lvdr to finally try to get him to flip. I come back at the end of the day and no one was voting for lvdr. However there was 3 votes on you (Dj), two of which were Iamperfection and Shady. Two people I trust to be town - they both have defended me. Mafia would never defend a troll like me. Most mafia would actually do the opposite and try and get me lynched. From experience, I am inclined to trust them. There happy, I responded to you! Seems like full of bullshit to me. He's basically confessing to have shept on Obv, Lvdr and me in this chronological order. Rest of his posts include nothing but BS except for this one:
On August 29 2012 03:28 Chezinu wrote: my list:
1.) marvellosity 2.) talismania 3.) Lvdr 8.) Djagulingu 10.) Kville 11.) Miltonkram
so far I think almost everyone is comfortable saying bluelight is town? Add in that I believe shady is innocent along with iamperfection and you get the above list. So now, let everyone highlight 3 names on that list that they think are mafia like this:
1.) marvellosity 2.) talismania 3.) Lvdr 8.) Djagulingu 10.) Kville 11.) Miltonkram Good reads imo. Lvdr and talis were #4 and #2 at the start of D3, after reading filters all along, they are now #3 and #1. Chezinu back down to #2 and will stay there. He needs to participate even more. He has some plans but he's hiding them from us. We don't even know if this is his own list or not. He starts with "my list:" but well.. Reasons would be pretty persuasive.
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Djagulingu (0):
iamperfection
Kville
iamperfection (0):
Shady Sands
Chezinu (1):
Djagulingu Bluelightz
Lvdr (3): Chezinu Shady Sands Kville
talismania (4): marvellosity iamperfection Lvdr Djagulingu
Have not voted (2): talismania miltonkram
If I count correctly, that is.
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On August 29 2012 22:57 Bluelightz wrote: I don't know, talis's post's seem's townie compared to his scum game in Pick Your Poison, granted in PYP he was active, but I dunno, I'll vote talis before I sleep though to consolidate (as I won't be there for the deadline, school started). Maybe they lost convincingly in that game and he's trying to work on his scum play?
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##Unvote ##Vote: Lvdr
From one of my top scum reads to another. I'm going to bed now, it's 11 PM here and I got work tomorrow, shift starts 3 hours after voting deadline.
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On August 30 2012 21:20 Kville wrote:Show nested quote +marvellosity United Kingdom. August 30 2012 19:09. Posts 4672 PM Profile Report Quote # filter
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------- On August 30 2012 12:52 Kville wrote: I knew Lvdr was town, it was blantantly obvious to me that he was being framed and pushed for a lynch. It is sad to see him go but he has provided the most useful information for us as town. --------------------------------------------------------------------------------
I'm sorry, what? Day 3 and you're voting for someone who know is town? What the fuck is this?? Don't even marv. Honestly im sick of your bull. That right there shows me how desperate you are looking for a player to lynch. Also, note the fact on how affirmitive Marv is about lynching away from others Show nested quote +you look into whatever the crap you want, but we're going to lynch talismania tomorrow.
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Since when sharing PMs is allowed?
If it's allowed, I'll share my role PM too.
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EBWOP oh this is not a PM i guess.
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On the game though, it looks like we're back to square 1. Or not. I think we're again in the "end of day 2" thing now Lvdr flips town too (you know, my thing).
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On August 30 2012 22:44 Bluelightz wrote: If I could kill someone let's kill Lingu. No. Don't kill Djangalang. Instead let him do the "DJANGNAM STYLE" dance instead while we're killing Chezinu or Talis.
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On August 30 2012 22:54 Kville wrote:Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 22:45 Djagulingu wrote:On August 30 2012 22:44 Bluelightz wrote: If I could kill someone let's kill Lingu. No. Don't kill Djangalang. Instead let him do the "DJANGNAM STYLE" dance instead while we're killing Chezinu or Talis. This kid is cracking. He knows he is done now. So let's just finish it, when the day starts. After lynching me, all you see will be Chezinu, Talis and most prob. iamperfection laughing their asses off while we're making one mislynch after another. Me? I'll be watching you from above after you're done with me. Pitying and laughing to your bad plays. Truth is so obvious, you should just lynch the troll.
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On August 31 2012 01:05 marvellosity wrote:Show nested quote +On August 31 2012 01:01 Kville wrote:On August 31 2012 00:43 Djagulingu wrote:On August 30 2012 22:54 Kville wrote:On August 30 2012 22:45 Djagulingu wrote:On August 30 2012 22:44 Bluelightz wrote: If I could kill someone let's kill Lingu. No. Don't kill Djangalang. Instead let him do the "DJANGNAM STYLE" dance instead while we're killing Chezinu or Talis. This kid is cracking. He knows he is done now. So let's just finish it, when the day starts. After lynching me, all you see will be Chezinu, Talis and most prob. iamperfection laughing their asses off while we're making one mislynch after another. Me? I'll be watching you from above after you're done with me. Pitying and laughing to your bad plays. Truth is so obvious, you should just lynch the troll. What about Lvdr, wasn't he one of your top scum reads? And then he turns bright green. Stop trying with your lousy bluffs. Lvdr was your top scum read and then you said he was bait yet you still bandwagon Lvdr instead of going on talis. You strategy was too good to be true and now you will have your downfall. You nothing but a desperate scum grasping for air, surrounded by revloutionaries. Isn't lynching town after town what you've been wanting? We lynch Lvdr and now you want Chez next. It's an obvious vote from you. Just put your hands where we can see them and walk up the gallows. I predicted this very moment, this story from the very beginning, but the ending will change with a victory for the town. Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 12:52 Kville wrote: I knew Lvdr was town, it was blantantly obvious to me that he was being framed and pushed for a lynch. It is sad to see him go but he has provided the most useful information for us as town. yeah ok A) This guy is a townie of 100% OMGUS. He's been holding his grudge against you and me since day 1. That's why he lynched Lvdr despite knowing that he was a townie. He is seeking an opportunity to lynch me and you. I doubt he's playing to win. B) This guy is the 3rd scum along with Talis and Chezinu, trying to go for you and me, looking like an OMGUS townie and finishing off town as soon as he can do it. Lynching Lvdr despite knowing that he's a townie has no other explanation.
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On August 31 2012 14:42 Shady Sands wrote: I'm beginning to think KVille may be scum.
Talis/KV/DJ?
Chez is just really hard to read =( ##Vote: Talismania
The only flip side of a LYLO situation is that you can have a random lynch and still get a mafia nearly half of the time. By the way don't we have a medic or a DT? No saves, no DT checks so far. I'm really on Chezinu-Talis-iamperfection/Kville scum team. And if you excuse me, I'll vote on Talis.
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On September 01 2012 08:05 talismania wrote:alright so I guess I'm losing this for town but here goes anyway. tomorrow will be my gf's birthday and I won't be around to fight. 1) All anyone seems to have on me is that I have been inactive. I have been inactive. I have also been busy. Because I am busy, I am inactive. I even said pre-game that I thought I wouldn't be able to be as active as I was in mad men and I even I underestimated how much shit I would have to do then. 2) If I'm scum the NKs don't make sense. Why do I kill BL, who had a townish read on me coming into this lylo situation? Why is marv still alive, when he's been gunning for me forever? Milton wasn't on my case either - why him and not shady, for instance? 3) DJ is one of the scum. Pregame - spammy, eager. During the game - composed, longer posts, less active. Day one - first post is a giant commentary on nothing. All thread response and talk about palmar's randokill thing, the perfect topic for scum to talk about in order to look like they're contributing without doing so. Many of his day one posts are nothing but following the way the wind blows. Obvious comes up, he'll look into him. Marv votes kville? DJ will go for kville as a lurker. Etc. Day two - the lvdr and bait debacle. He votes for lvdr because he supposedly thinks he's scum and if he's not suspects that a wagon on him will draw out real scum. Nevermind that this is a stupid way to trap scum in the first place, it's also likely he invented his explanation for the sequence of events posthoc. Day three - after catching me in his trap (somehow? I vote at the end of day two without even reading and saw he had four votes and I was already suspicious of him), he completely reverts his vote off me, happy to lynch lvdr: Show nested quote +On August 30 2012 05:17 Djagulingu wrote: ##Unvote ##Vote: Lvdr Nice strat from scumbags. Keep DJ alive to the LYLO along with townies who hate him most and win? Yeah right. Lynch this guy, toast on the red blood drawn from him. From one of my top scum reads to another. I'm going to bed now, it's 11 PM here and I got work tomorrow, shift starts 3 hours after voting deadline. Uh, look at his filter going backwards from this post. Lvdr was nowhere near the top of his list near as I can tell. It was me, chezinu, maybe iamp. This is scum opportunism. 4) Marv is one of the scum. VE was right about him. He should be more in charge than he is. He has pushed me nonstop on the basis of nothing but meta. If he were town, I can't see him being like "oh let's do this and lynch talismania" at lylo. He may feel very strongly about me, but he would pressure everyone else in town to get their reads on everyone. He would carefully consider his options. His confidence in my lynch is misplaced for what it should be. This goes for DJ as well. Contrast this with how iamp and shady are actually thinking about things before they make up their minds and whatnot for example. Leads into my last point: 5) People this is the end of the game. Think carefully about what you're doing. ##vote: dj
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EBWOP: Lol the actual post isn't here.
Scum's only plan since night 2 is to keep me alive along with people who are eager to see me killed because getting me killed would do nothing but give themselves away. They had to keep me for the LYLO. That's why they delayed on N2. A flawless scum victory is the most embarrassing thing, especially knowing who scumbags are. Don't believe him or whatever he says and hang him high.
Then we toast on the red blood drawn from him.
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