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I thought the nuke was real as well despite knowing chez's trolling so I agree that isn't a good reason to vote him. If I was him though I would have blocked Ks nuke when I learned he was scum but he didn't. I find that to be the more suspicious part.
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Sorry guys but I have to head to bed. I think the momentum is swinging back to BH so I will leave my vote where it is.
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Can we calm down on the insults on RoL, he can't defend himself and regardless of if he screwed town or not it isn't helping us now. I think this is my first game with "Nukes" and it is closed so they are very confusing for me. Is it standard for people to be given duds? Even if it is does the launcher usually know it is a dud, I would think that would be something they wouldn't be privy to. Lastly BH, if you really are town can you explain your block since it has been used now, I am asking because is it possible it blocks the last Nuke fired?
RoL while lazy/absent much of the game actually was major contributor to the town win in Bang Bang, I find it incredibly hard to believe the story he knew K wouldn't be hit.
Foolishness is usually useless day one, and ramps up day 2 (why they try and kill him so fast) what surprises me is at least in my previous game he was open about it, this game he seems to be trying to hard to look like a contributor day 1. Of course he is amazing at outing scum when town so lets see if he has better reasoning if he survives the night.
That said, Kurumi needs to die, I don't trust a shot anymore (Sorry Palmar I thought you were crazy for wanting to lynch her, I had no clue nukes were so un-sure).
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Syll, how would could you even know that unless you have a dud as well?
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Bah I am such an idiot, sorry guys. I was catching up on my mobile and thought it was filler text. sorry sorry sorry.
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Host you mentioned it might be possible to get the deadlines adjusted a little for Euro players. Since this one is started already could we just adjust, starting with the next day post, back 3 hours. I think town would take the 3 less hours gladly if it means we can have more people here for the flip if need be.
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On July 18 2012 22:31 marvellosity wrote: Now do you see why everyone was shouting at RoL? ^_^ Yes TT. Still I think we should hold criticism of him till after the game when he can at least respond with why he did it, as it is done now and he is dead confirmed town.
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All aboard the Kurumi train choo choo, leave your brains at the stations, all you need here is working vote!
Guys Chez is the most Pro Town player this game, take a moment and read what he says any you will find enlightenment.
First it seems that the only day or night KP is a single Nuke, and guess who has that, Kurumi. DO you really think that it would be given to scum in this setup and not town?
Second, the whole case against him is how he responded to the sandroba text, and while mafia would have went with it, guess what I think a town might would have as well. It is easy for me to say I would have told town, but would I have, what if it as a mason group, etc... I can see someone knowing they were town going along with it for the moment.
Third we really want to hit Scum leaders, So I think Kurumi deserves a reprieve and we start judging based on actions and not that he went along with a received PM. If he keeps up scummy then yes lets kill him, otherwise lets actually go for a lynch today instead of mindlessly trying to kill K.
Now it is time time to look at alternatives. Sadly the person I was sheeping died. But my fellow emplyees I ask you, why did he die? DO not let the Kurumi distract you, someone was murdered last night and it was for a reason. That reason was because he was on the tail of high level scum. The CEO knows only three scum, himself and 2 others, using that infrmation he chose to save someone. Who was it? Here are some WBG hit lists:
Blazinghand layabout Meapak_Ziphh syllogism
##vote Austinmcc
As for scum given how blatant their behavior seems I think the simplest route is to kill the confirmed ones first and then the scumreads that multiple people agree upon.
Right now ignoring Zealos and Kurumi that looks like:
Foolishness GGQ Meapak Layabout
And potentially: Katina
Now they wouldn't kill him for the BlazingHand or Kurumi vote, Even the Foolishness vote is being headed up strongly by others. Who on this list would gain the most by a dead WBG???
Here I will let him tell you who it was:
On July 18 2012 07:45 wherebugsgo wrote: man why must this always be so hard -_-
Maybe the safest choice is killing layabout after all
I had motive, but I still needed facts to prove layabouts guilt. it is with this in mind that I began the laborious process of examining everything we had on file about this man.
On July 17 2012 06:32 layabout wrote: If sandroba can message people why did he reveal his power after outing a single player that he could have pushed without revealing his power?
On July 17 2012 07:00 layabout wrote: Sandro why did you claim that you could trick mafia into revealing themselves when you had only tricked one player?
PSA: No talking to kurumi and spamming up the thread!
On July 17 2012 07:00 layabout wrote: Sandro why did you claim that you could trick mafia into revealing themselves when you had only tricked one player?
PSA: No talking to kurumi and spamming up the thread!
Nothing of substance posted yet, but sometimes lack of evidence can be evidence itself. Why did they just bleach and clean the trunk of their car? In the same way someone cleansing their own posts can point towards guilt.
On July 18 2012 03:04 layabout wrote:bah Sandro town Kurumi scum. I must be over thinking things since none of you questioned mafia following a two line message of questionable intent when mafia can only have sent up to 3 messages that could have been as long as they liked and would have been their only method of communication. Are we ignoring the nuke and just killing Kurumi then?
lol Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 07:00 layabout wrote:
PSA: No talking to kurumi and spamming up the thread!
Here we see he has possible doubts about the Kurumi case, but look his resolution is to not talk to K. How do you find the truth if you are going to gag the victim? you can't.
On July 18 2012 10:35 layabout wrote: Not game relevant:
I think i am going to take a break from TL mafia. I had looked forward to this game for some time but now it's happening i can't bring myself to care. At some point during the last game something inside just snapped. There were a number of reasons for it and i was going to make a thread but then real life kicked in and i haven't had the time. Yesterday was my first day back to myself and i spent most of it away from my computer and most of my computer time on Blacklight: Retibution.
In spite of this i hate nothing more than asshats that don't play or people that are exempt from trying/playing because "It's player soandso" so i will try.
After i die i will bugger off.
I began writing a long post but i am tired and it reads like dogpoo.
Following sandro since the last time... well it worked out pretty well for town. ##vote gonzaw
I am not sure how he can think that both foolishness and syllogism are scum. He seems to be looking at the thread from a very different viewpoint. Excuses, Mafia love them to justify bad play. Here he admits he doesn't care about the outcome, but since he is bored that it is ok. Lets cut this guy some slack, he just doesn't feel it this game, yeah i don't think so either.
The rest of his posts comprise him saying to keep ignoring Kurumi. He still hasn't had a single case, his vote yesterday was: "Following sandro since the last time... well it worked out pretty well for town.##vote gonzaw" Prefaced with "I began writing a long post but i am tired and it reads like dogpoo." I would like to see at least something pointing towards a candidate he would liek to kill besides Kurumi
##Vote Layabout
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Bah so many errors, sorry for not proofing reading it better.
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On July 20 2012 00:04 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 23:32 Palmar wrote: meh layabout isn't scum.
Also, do we really not have a vigilante? I still need to catch up since yesterday. I would've expected kurumi to be dead by now. Why layabout isn't scum? You haven't given many reasons for most of your reads so far.
Palmar:I guess I'm also reconsidering layabout. It'd be very low play from him to write that frustration post to get stuff off him as mafia, and I genuinely don't think he's an asshole.
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I like the Zealos lynch better that Ks. Also scum almos has to exist between BH, K, and RoL, we know it isn't RoL, if K flips town like I think he might I think BH is a great target.
I am going to ignore layabout as apparently people think his confession is too low for him to stoop to as mafia. I don't know him well enough to say that, but I have seen that tactic used in the pact so please don't rule it out.
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How about to save the townie Kurumi?
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On July 20 2012 11:30 Katina wrote: VE: Then we will lynch Zealos D3, honey. That doesn't mean the town has to run all over the place with their votes. The Mafia aren't going anywhere, we have to lynch them one at a time.
Not knowing what other powers scum have is not something we should be focusing on right now. That's not going to make them suddenly pop into our minds. We will find out like we always do and that's when they use it. It's impossible to know anything before hand. Kurumi has already used his power when he nuked RebithOfLegend. I understand that Zealos might have a power too but I think that's farfetched considering the amount of nukes and blocks going off D1. Right now we should keep our votes on Kurumi and continue to make cases on others that are scummy then decide who our D3 lynch should be when night falls and Kurumi's alignment is revealed. Or Zealos could be an executive. And we start crumbling their infrastructure a day early. We know K isnt exec, and doesn't have a nuke today.
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On July 20 2012 11:40 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 11:38 rastaban wrote:On July 20 2012 11:30 Katina wrote: VE: Then we will lynch Zealos D3, honey. That doesn't mean the town has to run all over the place with their votes. The Mafia aren't going anywhere, we have to lynch them one at a time.
Not knowing what other powers scum have is not something we should be focusing on right now. That's not going to make them suddenly pop into our minds. We will find out like we always do and that's when they use it. It's impossible to know anything before hand. Kurumi has already used his power when he nuked RebithOfLegend. I understand that Zealos might have a power too but I think that's farfetched considering the amount of nukes and blocks going off D1. Right now we should keep our votes on Kurumi and continue to make cases on others that are scummy then decide who our D3 lynch should be when night falls and Kurumi's alignment is revealed. Or Zealos could be an executive. And we start crumbling their infrastructure a day early. We know K isnt exec, and doesn't have a nuke today. Do you know what blazinghand and VE have in common? They both said ##block. PS: blazinghand is bad at blocking. So, what does that make of VE? 2 blockers for with only 1 real nuke seems strange, if he doesn't have it and it is a nuke he is outed as well.
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On July 20 2012 11:54 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 11:51 Blazinghand wrote:On July 20 2012 11:48 Katina wrote:On July 20 2012 11:40 Blazinghand wrote:On July 20 2012 11:34 Katina wrote:On July 20 2012 11:23 Probulous wrote:On July 20 2012 11:10 Katina wrote: This thread is so messy it's not even funny. Here's what needs to happen:
Keep your votes on Kurumi. We are not going to spend the last day bringing up new candidates (Like Zealos) and throw the thread into complete chaos again then end up with another no lynch. There's hard evidence on Kurumi right now, let's not forget that. We will see what his flip is then go from therw. When D3 hits THEN will we start voting for other people who are Mafia. (Mattchew, Palmar, Foolishness, Blazinghand, etc)
There has been roughly ten pages since I looked at the thread this morning and all the content in those pages say close to nothing about anything. It's all a bunch of derp and twerp that is continuing to keep the thread horrible cluttered and disorganized. I'm surprised to see that the veteran players (who are usually good at keep direction for the town) are sitting around doing nothing or contributing to the chaos as well. If this continues then this game will be fast and resulting in a for sure Mafia victory.
Well that's a useless post. You basically come into the thread complaining that we have added no new information (false) and then proceed to add no new information yourself. Hipo-Creeeeeet First of all, read my post properly. I wasn't complaining that there wasn't any new information. I was stating that the thread is unorganized and that we shouldn't start throwing our votes all over the place again. We need to keep our votes focused on Kurumi today. "we" need to keep our votes focused on kurumi? The only guys on zealos are me and rasta, and I've explicitly stated my willingness to vote kurumi. I won't disappear from the thread. Also, do you really think there's no possible good argument for a zealos lynch instead of kurumi? because I think the argument that zealos may still have a power while kurumi certainly has used his up is a compelling one. We're lynching both of them anyways, why not lynch zealos first? ._. It just takes one or two votes to switch to throw the whole town into confusion. If votes start switching there is no garauntee that enough people will switch off Kurumi to lynch Zealos then we will end up with another no lynch. We are all in agreement and have our votes placed. I never said there wasn't a good arguement to lynch Zealos now, Kurumi is basically confirmed scum. Why would we mess that up now to attempt to lynch Zealos who may or may not be an executive? There is no way to know how high up someone is.... The speculation that he might be an executive shouldn't be allowed to cloud our judgement. Mafia is Mafia, we need to start eliminating them now. We really cannot afford more confusion and vote switching chaos again. Wat you really don't know why we want to lynch zealos do you I do know but people have been saying many different things about why the want to lynch Zealos and I'm saying switching votes now is not a good idea.
We have 24 hours now is the perfect time to switch.
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On July 20 2012 12:38 Katina wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 11:58 rastaban wrote:On July 20 2012 11:54 Katina wrote:On July 20 2012 11:51 Blazinghand wrote:On July 20 2012 11:48 Katina wrote:On July 20 2012 11:40 Blazinghand wrote:On July 20 2012 11:34 Katina wrote:On July 20 2012 11:23 Probulous wrote:On July 20 2012 11:10 Katina wrote: This thread is so messy it's not even funny. Here's what needs to happen:
Keep your votes on Kurumi. We are not going to spend the last day bringing up new candidates (Like Zealos) and throw the thread into complete chaos again then end up with another no lynch. There's hard evidence on Kurumi right now, let's not forget that. We will see what his flip is then go from therw. When D3 hits THEN will we start voting for other people who are Mafia. (Mattchew, Palmar, Foolishness, Blazinghand, etc)
There has been roughly ten pages since I looked at the thread this morning and all the content in those pages say close to nothing about anything. It's all a bunch of derp and twerp that is continuing to keep the thread horrible cluttered and disorganized. I'm surprised to see that the veteran players (who are usually good at keep direction for the town) are sitting around doing nothing or contributing to the chaos as well. If this continues then this game will be fast and resulting in a for sure Mafia victory.
Well that's a useless post. You basically come into the thread complaining that we have added no new information (false) and then proceed to add no new information yourself. Hipo-Creeeeeet First of all, read my post properly. I wasn't complaining that there wasn't any new information. I was stating that the thread is unorganized and that we shouldn't start throwing our votes all over the place again. We need to keep our votes focused on Kurumi today. "we" need to keep our votes focused on kurumi? The only guys on zealos are me and rasta, and I've explicitly stated my willingness to vote kurumi. I won't disappear from the thread. Also, do you really think there's no possible good argument for a zealos lynch instead of kurumi? because I think the argument that zealos may still have a power while kurumi certainly has used his up is a compelling one. We're lynching both of them anyways, why not lynch zealos first? ._. It just takes one or two votes to switch to throw the whole town into confusion. If votes start switching there is no garauntee that enough people will switch off Kurumi to lynch Zealos then we will end up with another no lynch. We are all in agreement and have our votes placed. I never said there wasn't a good arguement to lynch Zealos now, Kurumi is basically confirmed scum. Why would we mess that up now to attempt to lynch Zealos who may or may not be an executive? There is no way to know how high up someone is.... The speculation that he might be an executive shouldn't be allowed to cloud our judgement. Mafia is Mafia, we need to start eliminating them now. We really cannot afford more confusion and vote switching chaos again. Wat you really don't know why we want to lynch zealos do you I do know but people have been saying many different things about why the want to lynch Zealos and I'm saying switching votes now is not a good idea. We have 24 hours now is the perfect time to switch. Only two people have switched as I said before there is no garauntee that enough people will switch over to ensure his lynch. We are already lynching a Mafia member, no need to cause distruption to that right now. Except I disagree and think Kurumi is innocent, so lynching Zealos is strictly superior in my eyes.
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On July 20 2012 12:50 VisceraEyes wrote: Oh, reason. <3
TBH if we're switching I'd want to switch to Foolishness anyway. Skidoosh?
So....I'm gonna go read WBG's posts right now. I want someone else to do the same. Anyone can, but I'm doing it too.
Hypothesis: WBG was killed for a reason. What ground breaking opinion... . Maybe it wasn't layabout then and I pointed fingers in the wrong direction, but I agree with you. There is much to be learned from his posts.
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On July 20 2012 13:49 VisceraEyes wrote:VisceraEyes Attempt At Night-Kill Analysis First, the reason I've done this: the mafia kill mechanic. Show nested quote +On July 02 2012 16:07 Protactinium wrote: Extra Information: The mafia kill process goes like this: Every day, all mafia members except for the CEO send in a name on who they wish to kill. Then, the CEO must choose to kill one player on the list by the night deadline. So, here's my theory: this night-kill holds significance because A) I haven't done this analysis yet and B) This night is the most likely that the CEO does not know who his minions are yet. The information that the CEO has, as I understand it, is the names of his two Executives. And the information that the Executives have are the names of the minions. But all mafia but the CEO must submit a name for the night-kill.So this means 2 things. 1) that the night-kills will more likely have an actual reason other than "to throw town off" or "blue snipe" and 2) that the CEO gets information on who his minions are by who they want to kill. Given all of this, my assumption is that Blazinghand is Mafia. First of all, just so we're clear, I do NOT have the ability to block nukes. Nothing stops a nuke. It's a nuke. I guess it's possible, but I very seriously doubt it for two reasons. 1) because RoL had a dud nuke. It never had a chance of exploding, ever. And 2) Because as Bugs commented earlier - if BH was town and had a block available, he would have blocked Kurumi's nuke the moment he found out that Kurumi was scum. Regardless of the fact that scum minions don't know who each other are, it is a net gain for town to prevent mafia from achieving their objectives. Period. Kurumi could have been under direct orders to fire that nuke for all we know. So right now I'm looking at something like... Kurumi, Zealos, Foolishness, Blazinghand...if we're talking about my like...really heavy strong scum reads. Layabout is still up there, and here's something else I found that was interesting: Show nested quote +On July 17 2012 10:04 wherebugsgo wrote:On July 17 2012 07:52 Katina wrote:On July 17 2012 07:48 wherebugsgo wrote: Lol @ Kurumi trying to insinuate that mafia know who town are in this setup (hint: they don't)
The desperate flailings and failings of a caught scum, too funny.
Also marv is a good scumhunter, an honorable scumhunter, let no harm befall him. Marv if you're town don't go afk, just ignore Kurumi. You can help me and sandro and whoever else is on town side. I'm still reading, but thoughts to come in a few hours after my lab.
Barring Kurumi I'd like to hear who Katina, Palmar, sandro, and syllo would kill right now. Palmar mostly. Wouldn't mind syllo, or Mattchew. <3 I believe you're the only one who even acknowledged my question. I agree with all three kills but I'd rank them differently. Wouldn't mind killing Blazingscum and layabout too, they're all scum. All scum, god damn them. Oh and Wiggles is AFK. Just thought I'd throw that out there, he hasn't posted yet. Possibly rolled scum again, the bastard. OH and BM is afk too. Wtf? Well hell, half the players are afk. W/e. Let's focus on one player first: Shit that makes layabout scummy:Read his filter first, it's not long at all. Keep that in mind for a second. http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=349678&user=233798He does nothing but shed doubt on sandro's claim. He instantly disbelieves it without considering other evidence. He knows the caliber of sandro's town play yet he doesn't even acknowledge the possibility that sandro could be town. In addition he's stayed toward the back of the discussion, as he does when he is scum. When he is town he is out in front if he thinks people are being stupid. He will kick and scream and call people retarded if they're doing something he disagrees with. Clearly he disagrees with us sheeping sandro on his catch of Kurumi (otherwise why else would he shed doubt on it?) but notice that he actually doesn't do anything to stop the wagon. i.e. his doubt is unfounded and he wants to undermine sandro without taking heat for the action itself. Scum tactic. Kurumi is going to die at the end of the day. Thus, we should kill someone else. Let's kill this guy for now. Make the bad man fly. ##unvote ##vote layabout Which further makes me question my read on marvellosity to be honest. Starting to think marvellosity is scum too, because layabout goes unnoticed by marvellosity in spite of Show nested quote +On July 19 2012 21:01 marvellosity wrote:On July 19 2012 18:06 Meapak_Ziphh wrote:Alright guys let’s talk rastaban. The first thing that caught my eye was, conveniently, his first post so let’s start there. On July 16 2012 23:32 rastaban wrote:Caught up now, thoughts so far: First off the random vote is a bad idea, normally the reason it is used is to eliminate mafia influence, but guess what the mafia don't know who each other are so this lynch will be without their influence anyway. We have a golden opportunity to have a lynch today with mafia having to base their judgments on reads, and make hard choices while not able to communicate. Fellow employees do not squander this opportunity! This leads to my second point, Lynching scum doesn't put someone in the clear, especially this early in the game. They don't know who each other is so they can lynch themselves, so look for sound reasoning not just who they voted for. @ HiroPro Third yes mafia only has 1 KP see: Extra Information: The mafia kill process goes like this: Every day, all mafia members except for the CEO send in a name on who they wish to kill. Then, the CEO must choose to kill one player on the list by the night deadline. Fourth, While I think a Policy lynch on claiming blues is bad, I do think you bring up a very valid point. As you mention 1 for 1 may not be a bad trade for them so I think we should certainly be extra wary of any claimants and possibly lynch the claimant if it seems fishy, but I think a Policy is going a bit too far. OK so thats my setup review / plans post, I am now working on locating scum so I will follow up in a bit with my thoughts on who to lynch. This post is a whole lot of fluff. The game has been going on for a while when he makes this and there’s plenty to discuss however rastaban is more comfortable discussing the setup. This is a red flag, this type of post is something you make right after the game starts, not when the game has been going on and there are actual issues that can be addressed. To continue with this theme we have posts like this: On July 17 2012 00:19 rastaban wrote: Wait I just realized it said "one" of them in those posts. I had thought they sent out a message to all their followers at once, but it means instead of the above example, at most the high up, could tell one other person to try and save him. That means only 2 scum detractors at most from any lynch today Again, it’s just talking about the setup instead of actually scumhunting. Let’s look at the next two posts together: On July 17 2012 01:37 rastaban wrote: @BH What is this??? the only way someone could vote you is if they are scum, do you really believe you are that town? Your latest post is so crazy I almost think it is a joke. On July 17 2012 03:54 rastaban wrote: VE both games I have played with you you pushed someone incredibly hard day 1, why do you want to do a random lynch, cant you find any scum this time? Both these posts serve no purpose. Does rastaban think either of these two are scummy? Who knows. He says that BH is so crazy he almost thinks it’s a joke but gives us no read. Similarly with VE, he mentions how VE’s behavior is different than what he’s observed but gives no read. After a nice little wagon has built up on BH, rastaban finally feels confident calling for someone’s death: On July 17 2012 05:18 rastaban wrote: I like the case on BH better than the on Mz right. I feel GGQ is right in his assessment that mafia will use the lack of ties to make them more bold in their case rather than second guessing. Look at my play as Serial Killer, I decided to try and play as pro town as possible, I ended up going overboard and tunneling risk.nuke in my effort. I feel like MZ's caution is the sign of town who wants to get things right rather than scum who wants to get the day over with. Think about it we still have more than 24 hours of discussion to go.
As others have also pointed out, he is also trying too hard to find reasons for his votes, it makes them seem fake.
##vote blazinghand He like the case on BH better than the one on me but spends most of the post talking about something other than his reasons for voting BH. Ultimately, rastaban’s vote seems like it is available to whichever candidate is currently the flavor of the hour: On July 17 2012 13:29 rastaban wrote: Sylo also looks like a good target, and while his actions are Scummy I recommend the Ace method, when two people both look like scum start by lynching the player you have more content on. We can give Sylo till tomorrow to improve if need be, and lynch this scum BH he has so much content and it all points one way On July 18 2012 11:33 rastaban wrote: I like the BH LYnch better but I could go for lymching Austin as well mainly because the only defense for him is it's so scummy scum wouldn't do it. I have mis-lynched gonzaw before and this case on him doesn't seem that strong. That said his reaction is quite different than in bang bang so I would take over a nolynch if we can't get BH or Austin stung up. On July 18 2012 12:32 rastaban wrote:On July 18 2012 12:26 Mattchew wrote: I think Gonzaw is overwhelmed (not enough time) and that very much plays into why his meta would seem off. His confidence seems to be gone without being able to be the most dominant (usually by sheer volume) poster in the thread. I think this is the first time I have ever seen this little filter out of him and I think this all stems from not having enough time. I think his reactions and posts are sincere and truthful I see u are on MZ. Gonzaw and mh are our leading candidates and it looks like I agree to give gonzaw a bit more time. Will u switch to MH? On July 18 2012 12:57 rastaban wrote: Sorry guys but I have to head to bed. I think the momentum is swinging back to BH so I will leave my vote where it is. The last post really betrays rastaban’s strategy. He “agrees” with the every case that was brought up d1 however he sticks with BH because that’s where the momentum is. This just screams scum trying to fit in. He’s not going to argue hard for the BH lynch, he won’t stick his neck out by switching to another candidate but he’ll agree with the argument against that person just to be in agreement. Finally, he chooses to go with BH because it’s the one that seems the least controversial. This may not be a very elegant post but it should get the point across and I need sleep. I’ll be happy to answer any questions when I wake up. tl;dr rastaban needs to die at some point. I'd like to give this some love. I started off reading it sceptically but at the end I was down with it. Meapak demonstrates in rastaban what I would classify as the classic mafia mindset in this setup - not rocking the boat, going with the flow, not drawing attention to yourself with dissent. rastaban this game is classic mafia. ...being the reason marv gave for agreeing with MZ's case. Considering marv's high regard for Bugs as a player, I'd expect a town marv to be all up on layabout after Bugs post on him. But Bugs must have been killed for a reason.tl:dr - - Blazinghand is Mafia
- I think marvellosity and layabout are suspicious based on my reread.
- I do not have a nuke-block.
- Skidoosh.
I agree with most of this, however I don't think Kurumi is mafia if this is the case. Why would mafia have both the real nuke and the only blocker... Unless host is messing with us. If Kurumi flips blue this lynch then I think this case is much stronger.
Also, and this is possibly reading too much from nothing but Kurumi outed from his other mafia sign up to recollect for a bit. That is a seems like like town unhappy that they are being ignored, not scum getting caught but just my 2 cents.
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Ah I see now, I thought chez meant your nuke earlier but he meant BH wanted to show he had used up his power so he couldn't be an executive...
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On July 20 2012 14:01 Chezinu wrote:Show nested quote +On July 20 2012 14:00 rastaban wrote: Ah I see now, I thought chez meant your nuke earlier but he meant BH wanted to show he had used up his power so he couldn't be an executive... wow, people are actually understanding me this game... First Prob and now you.. Foolishness coached me on the arts of understanding chezinu in the past, I am still just a padawan, so it takes a while to unravel the answers locked inside.
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