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On July 18 2012 06:59 slOosh wrote: Still mulling over this austin business, because it doesn't make much sense from either alignment:
Because for scum austin to boldly go against what pseudo confirmed town sandroba, he would have to have some payoff - why bother bringing so much attention to yourself? The way he focuses on sandroba's claim does look like paranoid conspiracy theorist - I cohosted LV and if memory serves he was making really elaborate (read totally wacky) speculations.
Unless it was an order from a higher up (which is hard to swallow since it means someone else who knows more decided this plan of action was worth it), I'm seeing a paranoid town.
This post, this post, this post.
austin has never rolled scum yet and yet he's supposed to be making this sort of play as his first time? I don't see or understand it
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On July 18 2012 07:02 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 07:00 marvellosity wrote:On July 18 2012 06:59 slOosh wrote: Still mulling over this austin business, because it doesn't make much sense from either alignment:
Because for scum austin to boldly go against what pseudo confirmed town sandroba, he would have to have some payoff - why bother bringing so much attention to yourself? The way he focuses on sandroba's claim does look like paranoid conspiracy theorist - I cohosted LV and if memory serves he was making really elaborate (read totally wacky) speculations.
Unless it was an order from a higher up (which is hard to swallow since it means someone else who knows more decided this plan of action was worth it), I'm seeing a paranoid town. This post, this post, this post. austin has never rolled scum yet and yet he's supposed to be making this sort of play as his first time? I don't see or understand it So what? Your first scum game was LV, wasn't it? Acrofales's first game ever was GoT and he basically crushed town that game. My first scum game was MLP and I didn't have a hard time playing mafia.
it was LIV, quickly followed by LV
I don't understand your point. It's what slOosh says there - what's the payoff for going after sandroba and causing THIS discussion we're having now?
Did austin really think he was going to get sandroba to claim to him and help scum or something? I don't think so.
Your entire post (look! players who are good at scum without practice!) is effectively disproven by the fact that austin is close to getting lynched now for making a fucking dumbass play.
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No, the fact that I am defending him does not make it terrible logic
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On July 18 2012 07:09 syllogism wrote: If this was a normal setup his play would feel too audacious, but in this setup I'm not so sure as there is a lot of mafia and they are, especially at this stage, lone wolves and probably feel more free to push blatantly pro-mafia agenda. Moreover, this isn't the only problem I have with his play so far as he still hasn't posted anything that I would consider mafia hunting or given opinions on anyone at all, even though he promised some thoughts quite a while ago.
ok this post is good because i can break it down into two parts
1) i just don't think austin would be blatant like you say there 2) you are absolutely correct that he hasn't scumhunted and that's why i'm torn on the lynch
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well, whatever. I just don't think austin would think he could get sandroba to out his role like that. I read that as misguided townie.
i read as scum the fact that he does jack shit all else.
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we're not going to agree on it bugs.
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No, I didn't, you're just twisting it that way. My overall evaluation of that play is that austin as first time scum (read: a competent player in general) would not pursue something so dangerous. My opinion of his town play is that he's prone to chasing after these tangents and theories without much regard to the consequences like this.
Like it or lump it.
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On July 18 2012 07:17 sandroba wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 07:13 marvellosity wrote: well, whatever. I just don't think austin would think he could get sandroba to out his role like that. I read that as misguided townie.
i read as scum the fact that he does jack shit all else. He can't be both so either way you are wrong =P. Seriously now if you are going to argue something first form an useful opinion.
Which is why I'm unsure.
At the moment I think BH has a better chance of flipping scum. wbg's case on him earlier was strong and not a lot has changed since then. He's added little to town apart from defending himself and listing/sheeping people he wants to lynch. And I don't have that icky feeling that something is wrong with his lynch.
##Vote: BlazingHand
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wbg I'm not stupid. stop patronising me.
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I'm saying I have things I read scummy and things I read as townie
I have literally 100 posts from austin in my inbox talking about mafia so I think I have an ok idea how his head works
I would like to see more from him to help determine his alignment and therefore I am voting someone I am more confident about (see above)
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I think your read on BH is based on outdated meta
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I don't like austin's defence much :/
"Specific to Marv. I haven't done much hunting. I've been busy with Can't Believe. Anyone here can go check my posts. Anyone here can see that I flipped mason, which means not only was I posting in thread, but I was active with my mason buddy. That means I was pulling MORE than a normal game of activity, keeping active in 2 threads for 1 game, while this game filled up like 40 pages."
yet active enough here to go on and on and on about sandro
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hey VE. why are you lynching meapak?
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why in particular is he the #1 choice?
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why is austin still voting sandroba? this is stupid
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you're on drugs if you think 13 more people are gonna vote gonzaw in the next few hours
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On July 18 2012 09:27 Probulous wrote:Show nested quote +On July 18 2012 09:25 marvellosity wrote: you're on drugs if you think 13 more people are gonna vote gonzaw in the next few hours Well with an attitude like that, sure. No thoughts on my case at all
Most of it boils down to he's not as invested as he should be which was pretty much advertised pre-game.
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Hiro, we have to stop meeting like this
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