On June 27 2012 17:58 Acrofales wrote:Show nested quote +On June 27 2012 16:13 deconduo wrote:On June 27 2012 14:44 xsksc wrote:
My check last night was RBed - that goes without saying though.
##vote Hyaach
deconduo, don't be an asshole.
Vote me if you think I'm more likely to flip scum, don't do it to be fucking awkward.
Its both. If you flip scum and the game ends its great. If you flip scum and the game doesn't end then we lynch acro. If you flip town we lynch hyaach. Lynching hyaach first is the most dangerous thing to do because there's a chance acro is a traitor, given how he saved you from being lynched yesterday and tried to divert the lynch again today. And now he's pushing for hyaach to be lynched first which is ridiculous as well.
Let me nip this in the bud. How does your mind work. If xsksc is town then I am scum for pushing a lynch OFF him and onto a claimed 3rd party. Wait WHAT? Lets rewind that:
xsksc is town
Acro pushes the lynch from a townie to a 3rd party
Acro must be scum
This is the most upside down, inside out, back to front reasoning in this thread so far. However, that's okay, because scum is allowed to do that (and then they get lynched for it). Here is you earlier:
Show nested quote +On June 23 2012 07:12 deconduo wrote:
Acrofales isn't confirmed town by any means, and is confirmed to have KP. Just because he claimed his role early doesn't make him town.
Enter Talismania, who was the only one I trusted to make sense in this thread (Hiro makes sense, but is 3rd party. Drazerk is town, but doesn't make sense), who told you to read my filter. Instant 180º flip!
Show nested quote +On June 23 2012 07:19 deconduo wrote:On June 23 2012 07:16 talismania wrote:
hyaach claimed town roleblocker, not 3P
acrofales is too much of a stretch. He asked me to shoot maju and dropbear. And he's been incredibly protown. And everything
Oh I just assumed a Tyrion Lannister claim would be neutral, not town.
Oh and you are right about acro, went through his filter, he isn't scum. Point still stands about xcvxc, lynch him first, not hyaach
What has happened since then is that I have pushed a lynch on 3rd party for rather valid reasons. I was doubting the xsksc/Hyaach lynch (and still am, but recognize that at least one of them has to die before lylo) and started thinking about the lynch and alternatives to it. If I had thought things through about your claim earlier, I would probably have gone straight to you, but as it was, I figured we had two more lynches left before mylo. If we lynched a 3rd party, it would be lylo instead of mylo, but other than that nothing would change. The rest is explained multiple times in the thread.
However, lets go back to you. You want to lynch xsksc, because lynching a roleblocker is dangerous (despite the fact that it is doubtful that a roleblocker can stop KP: that only works if the scum is vanilla). I would argue that it's the other way round: you're scum and NOT lynching a DT is dangerous, especially if Hyaach is in fact a miller (information scum has, because they know xsksc and Hyaach are both town). Lynching Hyaach tells us for 100% sure whether xsksc was lying and is therefore scum. Lynching xsksc and him flipping town means Hyaach could still be a miller rather than scum, forcing a Hyaach lynch tomorrow and allowing scum-deconduo to get away scot free.
However, lynching Hyaach puts actual scum in a difficult spot. You are forced to kill the DT, because Hyaach flipping miller will make his claim believable (scum could not know he was a miller, just that he was town. It would be an extremely lucky lie and Ockham's razor rules it out). However, you don't want to kill xsksc the DT, because he is who you want to hedge your lylo against: having to lylo with Drazerk and me means you're dead.