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On June 13 2012 01:50 ghost_403 wrote: @shraft: I'm much more interested in why you think we should be lynching zelblade. Blazinghand wrote that solely to save his own skin. Do you really stand by everything that he said in that post? Shraft is the one who doesn't want to discuss it, unless I missed his post between here and the top of the page. | ||
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On the other hand, the town caught a scum Bluelightz during Aperture mafia, and his course of action was simply to leave. I don't think there's enough to lynch him right now, but I do want his explanation for his actions. BH was right, he has been sheeping pretty hard this game. I don't yet know if that's par for the course with him or not. I need some more time to read over his previous games (PYP:Redux, where he rolls scum, and MTGMM, where he rolls town) before I make a decision on what exactly his play this game means. | ||
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Night 1
Night 2
This perfectly explains all of the (and lack thereof) nightkills and roleblocks in the game. You need a scum roleblocker to explain Night 1, which leads me to believe that Artanis' claim is legit. If he's lying about it, you'd have to find another way to explain the lack of a scum NK Night 1. tl;dr - Artanis is town or a crafty lying basterd. | ||
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@zelblade: You spent a good portion of this game pushing Furerkip. What are your thoughts on Palmar? | ||
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lolololjkjkjk But his case on Zelblade isn't half bad. People complain about meta a lot, but it's a good place to start looking for scum. Examining his actions this game, you can easily see how a scum could do the things he did. He spends most of the game lurking and playing pretty poorly. That, and his reaction to the wagon forming on him isn't the least bit townie. If Zelblade truly was town, his mislynch would mean him and the town lose the game. Why isn't he the least bit panicked? If my mislynch was going to end the game, I'd be pissed. I think Zelblade can't argue his innocence because he's not, and he knows it. ##vote zelblade | ||
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@Shraft: Navillus is on my short list of people I still need to look into. I should be back later, and I'll look into him then. | ||
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Night 1, checked Hyaach, came back innocent. Night 2, checked Artanis[xp], came back innocent. Night 3, checked Palmar, came back guilty. Night 4, checked MrZentor, waiting for results. I chose to check MrZentor because he typically plays scummy, regardless of his alignment. He's a huge liability here at lylo/mylo/whateveritscalled. I would consider Artanis to be considered confirmed town at this point. With three scum total in the game, I think that both a godfather and a framer are unlikely, so I trust that result. Not only that, he's been playing consistently townie through the entire game. Shraft also strikes me as rather townie, but a lot of the credit I give him is due to his pushing of the BH and Zelblade lynches. He could be a very crafty scum, but I kind of doubt it. MrZentor plays scummy no matter what. I'm trusting whatever result I get tonight, and will act accordingly. Honestly, neither result would surprise me. Navillus was the only one who dared to speak out against the Zelblade lynch. This makes me highly suspicious of him. When scum are put into a situation like that, typically they will split up their actions, so they don't act in a group. I suspect that he drew the short straw, and had to oppose the Zelblade lynch. Honestly, I don't know why they did this considering Zelblade was town. Backup plan? It's very strange, all things considering. Nav is where I'm going to spend most of my analysis time in the coming days, assuming I make it that far. Snarfs hasn't given me a lot to go on, and I'll have to spend some time carefully reading his filter as well. He seems well thought out in his posts, he's on the less scummy side of null, but he's next up for analysis should MrZentor come back green. tl;dr: Gun pointed at my head, and given one bullet, I'd shoot Navillus. | ||
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Night 1: Hyaach - It was pretty obvious that he was next on the chopping block after the Pandain lynch, so I checked him. He came back green, which is why I believed his claim and tried to defend him. Obviously, I didn't want to out myself Day 2, so there was only so much I could do. Claim DT to save a JK when we had no idea what roles were in the game? No. Night 2: Artanis - Honestly, I had a hard time getting a read on him, so I checked him. He was pretty vocal in the thread, so this check gave me a lot to go on. Something that I'm still trying to figure out is what happened to the remaining roleblocks. He claimed to be RB'd Night 2, but no one claimed on Night 3. Kat could have been RB'd. If MrZ comes back saying he was RB'd last night, it's gg. Night 3: Palmar - Palmar gave us nothing to go on, so I checked him. When he came back red, I decided not to claim, because I honestly thought that Zelblade was scum. Palmar positioned himself in thread so he could vote Zelblade, so I figured he was going to bus his teammate. That's why during Day 4, I tried so hard to get Palmar into the conversation. Didn't work, and he was modkilled. Night 4: MrZentor - He plays too scummy, regardless of his alignment. I figured my DT check was best spent here, so I would know how to go forward during today. The final green check meant that there was only two scum left, and two people I didn't know their alignments. | ||
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Also, @scum, thanks for not counterclaiming me. It makes my life so much easier. @MrZentor: I'll tell you like I told Artanis: I got greedy, and didn't claim so I could get off another DT check. Also, my read on Zelblade as being red was cemented by this conversation: On June 15 2012 21:03 ghost_403 wrote: Should have time to catch up on the thread in about an hour. @zelblade: You spent a good portion of this game pushing Furerkip. What are your thoughts on Palmar? On June 16 2012 00:31 zelblade wrote: Well apparently this is over. Sorry town this loss is on me. @ghost My primary reason for pushing the furekip thing was because of the 4 scum thing. Since the game would obviously be over if there was 4 scum im naturally dropping it. His posting and attitude thus far reminds me of town palmar but im fairly unsure. I also typically remain calm in games with one exception where I raged. Meh. Obviously I am fairly annoyed about the situation, but spamming about how lynching me will lead to towns loss does nothing except shit up the thread. Since I apparently managed to miss responding to BH's part 2 earlier. [spoiler] The first part about furekip is obviouslly bullshit since its fairly clear I said assuming 4 scum is not that scummy, but claiming that that information is in the main page when its not is scummy. The question is a nulltell. Obviously scum can do it, but it was just me clarifying stuff. On the ghost meta thing I was sleeping in that period of time. I didnt actually mention it before I went to sleep since I was tired and feeling lazy. I also have no clue why scum would decide to switch from hyaach to BH for no reason when neither lynch would bring any cred come D3. This post is exactly what I would say if Palmar was my scummate. I figured Palmar was going to bus his scummate, and told his scummate to distance himself from the other two scum as much as possible. When he posted this, I asked Palmar and Navillus for their opinions, looking for something I could use to push Palmar's lynch the next day. | ||
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@MrZentor: Same question goes for you. | ||
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I'm pretty sure we're still on 48hr cycles? | ||
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However, no one has reported being RB'd Night 3 or 4, which is very disconcerting. We can believe that the scum RB chose to RB the night kills, but that requires just a bit of faith. Believing Artanis' claim to have been RB'd Night 2 confirms him as town and confirms that my DT checks on both him and MrZentor are correct. I'm still drudging through Navillus' and Snarfs' filters to make sure that I've read them correctly. Navillus' response to my earlier question would help me greatly in my read of him. | ||
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