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On May 29 2012 08:25 supersoft wrote: aww yeah i filtered this sinensis real quick. Completely useless fellow, hang him if you want. Reducing disturbing noise is better than nothing. I'd prefer reducing mafia kp, but you cannot have it all :-/
I am going to teach you guys a lesson of the so called "irony":
"Reducing disturbing noise is better than nothing." - it is like nothing: What can you archieve less with a lynch than reducing the number of palyers posting?!
I'd prefer reducing mafia kp, - this is actually not ironic
but you cannot have it all :-/ AND THIS IS!
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ah right. But that game ended too soon ^_^
Toad and I had it all figured out lol
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i really hope you guys realize that my nightplay has different goals than my dayplay. -_-
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On May 30 2012 09:51 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 09:48 VisceraEyes wrote: Mattchew what do you think about WBG's observation about Gambit? It could be true... It also could be shooting a solid vet before he has the chance to make reads... I think gambit needs to die
that was the first thing that popped into my mind when i read wbgs logic. as scum i'd shoot wbg instantly... i am going to look at the facts later. got university right now
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On May 30 2012 21:41 Toadesstern wrote: Hey Gambit could you do me a favor and tell me the name of the character you are? Just the name, no need for role or something like that.
don't act so mysterous...
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okay how many people took bullets?
MZ took a hit wherebugsgo took a hit
both of them were saved. Forumite took a hit aswell. Vigs who shot one of them must claim now.
On May 30 2012 09:11 Mattchew wrote: Hey guys... I wasn't shot... But strongandbig fell into my trap cause he knew this (Aka his team didn't shoot me)... If the trap failed it would have made scum believe there was a vig shot already used or an sk or something (Aka giving them fake game info) so it seemed like a win-win
this is so strange. Might be scum panicking after he saw that no townplayer died. _________
i need to figure some things out.
"Regarding Sines: I understand that from what you and BH have said, you have a lot of emotion and reason for frustration. But as BH has admitted, grush appears to be trying to be more useful. It is highly dangerous to suggest that lynching someone for past instance and who at this point hasn't proven scummy is better than letting them live --- this kind of lynch you are pushing would hurt us; we should lynch scummy behavior not past bad behavior. Until a player starts aggressively spamming scummy distraction/nonsense, do not suggest they are more harmful alive than dead. Ironically, I believe so far Sines has been more harmful than grush."
yeah that carefully accusing/lynchpushing is scummy... However he's a lynch not providing much information about other players.
I want to have a second look into wiggles and zealos.
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On May 30 2012 23:08 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 22:45 supersoft wrote:okay how many people took bullets? MZ took a hit wherebugsgo took a hit both of them were saved. Forumite took a hit aswell. Vigs who shot one of them must claim now. On May 30 2012 09:11 Mattchew wrote: Hey guys... I wasn't shot... But strongandbig fell into my trap cause he knew this (Aka his team didn't shoot me)... If the trap failed it would have made scum believe there was a vig shot already used or an sk or something (Aka giving them fake game info) so it seemed like a win-win this is so strange. Might be scum panicking after he saw that no townplayer died. I didn't even wait for WBG to claim his hit, how is that panicking... Did you read the post in context to the entire thread or just in my filter or quoted somewhere?
fuck you okay? I hate to deal with idiots like you. Of course i read that shit in the context. Noone claimes so far. You claimed before any PMs went out that told people they were hit. Scumteam know who they hit. obviously they dont have to wait for claims to know who was hit. WTF dude.
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On May 30 2012 23:42 supersoft wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 23:08 Mattchew wrote:On May 30 2012 22:45 supersoft wrote:okay how many people took bullets? MZ took a hit wherebugsgo took a hit both of them were saved. Forumite took a hit aswell. Vigs who shot one of them must claim now. On May 30 2012 09:11 Mattchew wrote: Hey guys... I wasn't shot... But strongandbig fell into my trap cause he knew this (Aka his team didn't shoot me)... If the trap failed it would have made scum believe there was a vig shot already used or an sk or something (Aka giving them fake game info) so it seemed like a win-win this is so strange. Might be scum panicking after he saw that no townplayer died. I didn't even wait for WBG to claim his hit, how is that panicking... Did you read the post in context to the entire thread or just in my filter or quoted somewhere? You're so smart. Yes, i read that genius post of you in the context. Noone had claimed so far. In fact, you claimed before any PMs went out that told people they were hit. My stupid assumption is based on the fact that the Scumteam knows who they hit. So obviously they dont have to wait for claims to know who was hit.
EDWOP >:-(
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is probably not going to happen today. He's one of the people i have to take a more careful look on, same as kita. I want wiggles or zealos. But I haven't connected the dots yet. I need some free time to sit down and work on my list. I really have a hard time to analyze the people with that huge novelstyle posts. Most of it is usually completely useless blabla. Almost never is anything valuable in it.
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On May 31 2012 00:28 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On May 30 2012 23:42 supersoft wrote:On May 30 2012 23:08 Mattchew wrote:On May 30 2012 22:45 supersoft wrote:okay how many people took bullets? MZ took a hit wherebugsgo took a hit both of them were saved. Forumite took a hit aswell. Vigs who shot one of them must claim now. On May 30 2012 09:11 Mattchew wrote: Hey guys... I wasn't shot... But strongandbig fell into my trap cause he knew this (Aka his team didn't shoot me)... If the trap failed it would have made scum believe there was a vig shot already used or an sk or something (Aka giving them fake game info) so it seemed like a win-win this is so strange. Might be scum panicking after he saw that no townplayer died. I didn't even wait for WBG to claim his hit, how is that panicking... Did you read the post in context to the entire thread or just in my filter or quoted somewhere? fuck you okay? I hate to deal with idiots like you. Of course i read that shit in the context. Noone claimes so far. You claimed before any PMs went out that told people they were hit. Scumteam know who they hit. obviously they dont have to wait for claims to know who was hit. WTF dude. As a side note I am not offended by this at all. I did not realize that the hit notices went out after my post, care to explain how you knew this because no where in the thread is this posted. Also, what I am saying is that as scum, why would I claim a fake hit that I KNOW can be EZ mode outted as a lie because WBG and MZ are alive. My move was to try and catch someone that knew more than townies about the night shots. SnB was that person, he couldn't keep his information to himself. Whether it was to look smarter when WBG inevitably claimed his hit and then a vig claimed mine or because he wanted to out the vig that shot me or to try and push a mislynch onto me for lying, his intentions and knowledge behind his post about me being shot were clear; He knew that I was not shot by scum in a time where the information available to the thread would not lead one to such conclusion
nvm. you dont understand my thoughtprocess and the pros for a scumteam to have one of them fake a hit. i draw that comclusion, because you keep repeating the same things i already read. on the other hand you're probably telling the truth now. i think your town gj.
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lynching on balance is completely reasonable. we need to keep that in mind. i devide my lists always in vets and noobs.
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lynch wiggles and zealos!!! both scum!!!
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nice writeup mz... you connected quite a few things there. I had no overview on VE so far...
+ Show Spoiler +"So let’s go over what’s wrong with this. On the surface it’s yet another jab at toad. However if you read closely, he’s now left his previous argument that toad is lying about his claim aside, and is instead focusing on the negative side effects having mason toad elected as leader. So without warning, VE has completely thrown away his earlier line of attack on toad and is now coming at him from a different angle. That’s not the only thing wrong with this post. VE is blatantly fear mongering as he talks about the dangers of toad being manipulated by the mafia. Toad’s mason power doesn’t kick in until the next day (not rocket science, just how masons work), so the chance of scum manipulated who he lynches is nil. This post serves no purpose but to sling mud at toad. Similar to what VE’s been doing all game long, except without warning he’s suddenly accepted toad as a mason and is fear mongering with implausible scenarios."
I like that part. The risk of manipulation is extremely low and only a godlike scumplayer could pull that of. But if VE is scum. Why is he interested that Toad isn't elected... Is it because the scumteam already had a candidate running for office? WIGGLES? is that thought too complicated?
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On May 31 2012 08:11 jaj22 wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 07:58 supersoft wrote: But if VE is scum. Why is he interested that Toad isn't elected... Is it because the scumteam already had a candidate running for office? WIGGLES? is that thought too complicated? Given how hard VE has spammed on day 2, it's possible that he was just spamming on any workable topic rather than with a particular agenda. I'm not liking Wiggles much atm though. Too few posts, too carefully written.
MY theory bases on the assumption that Zealos is scum. Independant from that VE looks bad. I recommend everyone to read MZs there are some really nicely done parts. + he refuses to say anything about zealos.
If both are scum, I think it's highly likely that Wiggles is scum: scumVE has no reason to attack people running for election if there is no scumcandidate running with a fair chance of winning. Wiggles doesnt participate at the endday1 discussion about zealos despite of the fact that zealos was a better target than sinanses... Wiggles is the scumcandidate.
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zealos needs to die first.
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On May 31 2012 08:18 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On May 31 2012 07:58 VisceraEyes wrote:On May 31 2012 07:57 GreYMisT wrote:On May 31 2012 06:20 VisceraEyes wrote: Were Mafia given a list of the possible roles that is more accurate as far as the variations than town received in the OP? Well that doesnt sound very normal gamey to me NEITHER DOES MOST OF THIS SHIT NOW ANSWER THE QUESTION see. That's town VE. But that could be faked now that I mentioned it I should have just shut up and kept telling people to do what I want them to do instead of explaining why.
+ the timing is awkward. Right after MZs post...
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On May 31 2012 08:22 EchelonTee wrote:So your logic is 1. lynch Zealos 2. if he's scum, Wiggles looks bad I can agree with that. But that doesn't make VE look worse; he said zealos looks bad here.
I know. But far too late. At this point of times there was no denyal that Zealos looked bad. It was just obvious. He really looked bad. However VE just mentions that fact but doesnt do anything about it.+ Moreover:
GambitX32 - (4) Blazinghand VisceraEyes Mr. Wiggles Ange777
Zealos - (3) marvellosity Toadesstern wherebugsgo
Dont you think it's remarkable that he refused to switch so far? even after we got toad claiming that Gamb is mason... and even wbg switched on zeal.
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solve of the mysterious riddle you struggle with: I thought your mason PM would be the first PM that goes out because everyone waited for that in the thread and Greymist obviously should have noticed that. Don't hype that shit.
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