On May 08 2012 14:16 Katina wrote:
Did we not learn anything from gonzaw and Wiggles about feeding trolls?
Did we not learn anything from gonzaw and Wiggles about feeding trolls?
and where have you been all day, miss?
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
May 08 2012 05:18 GMT
#1194
On May 08 2012 14:16 Katina wrote: Did we not learn anything from gonzaw and Wiggles about feeding trolls? and where have you been all day, miss? | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
May 08 2012 06:51 GMT
#1196
I've been pushing him for a while but the suspicion hasn't stuck because everyone is unsure on him. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
May 08 2012 14:56 GMT
#1219
On May 08 2012 23:14 chaoser wrote: Show nested quote + On May 08 2012 13:33 wherebugsgo wrote: also, since it feels like I am virtually the only townie who cares about winning, I'd appreciate it if some of you stopped being lazy assholes and actually did something for a change. I cannot be right about everything and I need different opinions in order to find scum. The game feels "too easy" because no one is doing anything, so there's an inherent bias in wanting to kill the people who are the most useless/anti town. At this point since that's almost everyone I'm starting to go insanely paranoid. "has total control and asks everyone to follow his plan" How do I have total control when one jackass like Cephiro can essentially change the lynch however he sees fit? Also, there's a reason people trust me with their votes. It's cause I've been right at least once and I appear town to them. "bitches about people being lazy" If people weren't lazy we would've won by now. Word dude? You do realize that if you, syllo, and palmar are asking people to follow your plans and control knowing the votes and whatnot that most people are not going to do much and just follow along right? That when people have different opinions, you either don't listen to them or think they are scum? You reads of scum are literally people who disagreed with the palmar plan (MZ, Ace, BC, Me) and people who are lurking (sandro). You're blaming other people when it's your own goddamn fault in the first place. Okay, let's see... I only call people scum if their opinions differ from mine in a way that blatantly supports a scum agenda. For example, saying that you believe cephiro + BC to be town over palmar + syllo, with the arguments you were using? Pretty fucking scummy, seeing as none of your reasons were valid and you're not retarded enough as town to normally believe the stuff you were saying. The fact that sheth flipped green is disturbing but that just means that last night all three up for lynch were townies. LOL what?! How the hell do you go from ONE flipping town to ALL being town? Given how meapak responded (I'm not saving myself, I'm willing to die) and how he only survived because of Sheth (who flipped green), he's obviously green as well. So we had three greens up for lynch. I don't know who in your group is the one but I'm sure one of them is mafia, dude. Probably palmar. So since sandro responded in essentially the same way, he's town too? I guess all one has to do is give up when we try to lynch them, then we'll think they're town! Man I can't fathom you'd think this garbage if you were town. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
May 08 2012 14:58 GMT
#1220
On May 08 2012 23:50 chaoser wrote: n does as well and not buy into palmar/syllo group.[/QUOTE]oh wait, so you're sure palmar isn't mafia? you're sure that ET isn't mafia? how? They haven't been lynched. The only one I've been wrong on is sheth, which you've been wrong on as well. I stopped here, since after reading this I realized the rest of it was just more bullshit. On May 05 2012 12:15 chaoser wrote: wow...i was wrong about BC/ceph v syllo/palmar... good job scum, you're now on my ignore list as well. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
May 08 2012 15:06 GMT
#1223
look at what he quoted Ace as saying. It refers to round A voting, as chaoser himself admits. I have not tried to influence round A voting at all because I agreed with Ace that trying to do so would just put scum at an advantage. However, what did Ace have to say about round B voting? Well, not much. However, this post stands out: On May 01 2012 13:16 Ace wrote: I'm in the Minority? Deal with it people. bugs, chaoser just tell me where to place my votes. Ace supported a COOPERATIVE round B plan, since it's fucking common sense that town needs to work COOPERATIVELY with everyone on the SAME PAGE in order for us to kill scum. Individual players have a huge amount of power in this setup, which makes it all the more important that the town works in unison. That's why I'm encouraging people to step up and it's also why chaoser's argument that a centralized town discourages players from actually playing the game is total rubbish. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
May 08 2012 15:07 GMT
#1224
On May 09 2012 00:05 chaoser wrote: lol wbg, I can see you're going to stick with your arrogance. Cool. I mean, like I said, when MZ and I flip town, you'll have to eat your words. Also, can you please stop throwing around "retarded". It's ableist. I know I'm town, I'm sure MZ is town given his actions at death. Sheth flipped town. 3 towns. given that you still haven't coughed up a single case that you have promised for 3 days straight, I'm pretty damn confident you're scum and not town. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
May 08 2012 15:10 GMT
#1227
On May 09 2012 00:08 chaoser wrote: Show nested quote + On May 09 2012 00:07 wherebugsgo wrote: On May 09 2012 00:05 chaoser wrote: lol wbg, I can see you're going to stick with your arrogance. Cool. I mean, like I said, when MZ and I flip town, you'll have to eat your words. Also, can you please stop throwing around "retarded". It's ableist. I know I'm town, I'm sure MZ is town given his actions at death. Sheth flipped town. 3 towns. given that you still haven't coughed up a single case that you have promised for 3 days straight, I'm pretty damn confident you're scum and not town. Isn't that what you said of Sheth and VE? Funny how they flipped town and both of them hated your little group. they both worked against town. VE blew the only chance town had in 3 days to lynch sandro all because he wanted to be a rogue. His play was horrendous. I mean think about it, his top two scumreads were me and Ace. Who gives a shit if he flipped town if his play was completely antitown the entire time? | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
May 08 2012 15:29 GMT
#1232
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
May 08 2012 15:30 GMT
#1233
The vote pattern fits and so does the in-thread behavior (and PM behavior as well) | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
May 08 2012 16:02 GMT
#1241
It's so phenomenally bad that I can't believe the guy is still trying to play seriously. I guess it makes sense though, since it's practically 50/50 for him to be completely immune to town killing him. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
May 08 2012 20:23 GMT
#1254
I'll answer you in an hour or two, I need to take a nap. then we will commence with the talkings. I am not willfully ignoring you all, just exhausted. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
May 09 2012 00:31 GMT
#1268
How have your reads changed in light of the flip? Who should we kill then? | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
May 09 2012 03:19 GMT
#1270
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wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
May 25 2012 11:05 GMT
#1741
I literally did not give this information to anyone the night I died because up till the deadline I was unsure about the players I was PMing. Originally I planned on giving the info to syllo+meapak+gonzaw but only ended up telling about half of it to syllo (i.e that chaoser was town) When I died I hoped Meapak would realize why I didn't tell gonzaw anything in the last cycle; up till the day I died the vote patterns supported scum being between Palmar/Gonzaw/chaoser/Cephiro (not Wiggles as he had thought) ET didn't fit the pattern I was looking for and I did not have much contact nor many thoughts on him from what I can remember. He played very well though, props to him especially. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
May 25 2012 11:09 GMT
#1743
That type of fluke happened with Wiggles only in round A. I think meapak highlighted that in our spreadsheet or perhaps he found Wiggles behaviorally scummy, I'm not really sure. However, Wiggles didn't fit properly with any team based on the combined information and thus could not possibly be scum to me. Sadly I didn't talk to him as much as I could or should have, but I had to talk to quite a few people. I ignored my behavioral read of sloosh almost solely on the vote pattern analysis. Sadly the only problem was that Cephiro chose to play in such a fashion that linked him incredibly hard to BC and chaoser. The round A fluke only worked in scum's favor as it tied Cephiro perfectly to that scumteam. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
May 25 2012 11:14 GMT
#1744
On May 25 2012 20:08 Palmar wrote: There was a reason I took the opportunity to shoot you and syllo simultaneously. I feared exactly the wrath of the other had only one died. Yeah our knowledge of the setup was so minimal that I assumed if I gave syllo at least the more important half of my info (that I thought you were scum) and I died instead of him (I really didn't expect to die that night) that he could piece together the rest of it. He wasn't agreeing with the things I was telling him so I was also more reluctant to tell him the other things. I speculated with him for a while and decided I'd rather not tell anyone else. I should've thought of the scumteams combining their shots, but it didn't occur to me that we could both die. You played that well. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
May 25 2012 11:31 GMT
#1747
At some point into my last day I had 4/6 scum but the volatility of the game was increased further by the voting system. It rewarded idiots who wanted to make a point just to make a point. If mafia pisses off one townie then even if all the other townies consolidate their votes that single guy can end up screwing over the lynch. That happened this game not once, not twice, but at least THREE times. That's unprecedented in a game of mafia for a single person to have that much power. | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
May 25 2012 20:35 GMT
#1765
every time you didn't die a part of me died instead lol | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
May 25 2012 22:09 GMT
#1770
For the most part when I was alive the only significant things I did were all with syllo. e: and then later some stuff with meapak but less so | ||
wherebugsgo
Japan10647 Posts
May 25 2012 22:45 GMT
#1774
well, very big thanks to Ver and Incognito for hosting the game! thanks to the players for a mostly enjoyable experience. | ||
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