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On May 08 2012 06:00 paschl wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2012 05:43 Gummy wrote: His outing was extremely suspect as demorcef, myself, and a number of others pointed out. Also, it seems like none of the townies really care about the outcome of this game and are voting on false beliefs or based simply on who they like.
I think my best bet, given how strong a case I've made for myself, is just to be quiet and let you guys think it over.
If you really want to win, the choice is obvious. Vote for tofu. If not, then by all means vote me off and get a big fat "I told you so" when the game ends during the night cycle. *cough*antispew*cough* Given all that you posted itt you now want to lynch the guy who claimed seer while there hasnt been a counterclaim and his peek has been killed tonight? It makes no sense. There is no detective. That's why there's no counterclaim...
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On May 08 2012 06:06 Gummy wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2012 06:00 paschl wrote:On May 08 2012 05:43 Gummy wrote: His outing was extremely suspect as demorcef, myself, and a number of others pointed out. Also, it seems like none of the townies really care about the outcome of this game and are voting on false beliefs or based simply on who they like.
I think my best bet, given how strong a case I've made for myself, is just to be quiet and let you guys think it over.
If you really want to win, the choice is obvious. Vote for tofu. If not, then by all means vote me off and get a big fat "I told you so" when the game ends during the night cycle. *cough*antispew*cough* Given all that you posted itt you now want to lynch the guy who claimed seer while there hasnt been a counterclaim and his peek has been killed tonight? It makes no sense. There is no detective. That's why there's no counterclaim... That or the detective is one of the inactives.
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Be more precise with your language. Are you talking about me or about tofu. Look at how the random generator works. I posted it on the previous page.
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And why does dahdum even sign up for this thread. Presuming he's a townie he posts once a day without reading anything except the last few posts and then votes based on a reasoning, which is an incorrect recollection of the events that took place.
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On May 08 2012 06:36 FirmTofu wrote: Aces is the last mafia and Gummy is already dead by now.
Votes on Gummy(Need 4 to lynch): paschl FirmTofu Ange777 dahdum
GG.
I didn't even read his counter-arguments because they are all Gummy flailing at town hoping to appeal to emotion.
For the record, Claw's fallacies were quite on target this game. It's a shame you all killed him instead of Gummy. There was not a single appeal to emotion in any of my rebuttals. The only appeal to emotion was my poem for Paschl.
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On May 08 2012 06:31 paschl wrote:Show nested quote +On May 08 2012 06:24 Gummy wrote: Be more precise with your language. Are you talking about me or about tofu. Look at how the random generator works. I posted it on the previous page. Is this another mafia claim? I was talking about Tofu. And how do you even know a generator like this was used? I could just aswell see him having 5-7 finished setups and rolling a dice instead of the method wikipedia uses. How is this a mafia claim. Your proposed method also precludes double-medic.
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On May 08 2012 03:14 AcesRequiem wrote: All of you could be scum, seriously.
Paschl mainly because he voted for Claw when you switched your vote, Gummy. Even though you were strongly convinced Gummy was the enemy and Claw was innocent, you still voted for his lynch. I can understand this from one point, but it looks very scummy from another.
FirmTofu and Gummy you two are seriously both so confusing, however, you both bring up some fine arguments. Will look into this deeper in a moment. Gummy, why are you so sure Ange777 is maffia? Stop throwing around random accusations and please explain. I'm suspecting him aswell.
But why would we not go for a save lynch and lynch the lurker, being dahdum? We should've done this on day one for christ sake.
##Vote: dahdum
This is a waste of a vote at this point. Since the hammer doesn't come down until 8PM EDT tomorrow, I'll just try my best to refute nonsense. Even if you believe dahdum is Mafia, tofu is the surer bet.
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As a sidebar, it seems like the only way to make this game sufficiently fun/hardcore for my tastes is to put some money on the line so people actually care enough to read and critically engage with posts. Given that the day is 48 hours, that should give plenty of time to anybody committed to this game to do a good job.
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Wrap-up for a few hours:
@paschl: Do a filter of Tofu's previous posts all the way back to when he accuses me today. Does that sound like the play of a scum or a legitimate detective. Dismissing legitimate arguments as "emotional" is a very clever way to deflect without having to say a word in response. When it comes down to logic vs. sophistry, I know you're smart enough to vote in the right direction.
@dahdum: Get your ass back in this thread and read ffs. You gave a reason for your vote that was flatly incorrect. Go back to page 6 and see how that conversation played out.
@aces: Your vote for dahdum is a waste. If you don't put it on tofu, this game is over.
@Ange/Tofu: Continue to be impressed with your play, though I recommend actually rebutting logic with logic in any subsequent non-newbie games you play!
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On May 08 2012 06:49 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 04:20 Mattchew wrote:Rules: Cheating:Cheating includes (but is not limited to): 9. Betting items outside of the game in exchange for in-game benefits. Gummy there will be no betting or money involved Is there a TL Mafia leaderboard or something like that? Something to motivate people to actually care about the outcome of the game? One of the things I love about TL is that members are generally quite hardcore and play to win. At least 3/9 people in this particular game (I won't mention names, but you know who you are) have not played to win, either by way of inactivity/inattention or via intentionally suboptimal play.
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Post-game. If a medic is in play and people know that a medic is in play but don't know his identity, games I've played before center around role claims, counter-claims and then the cleared player leading the town. Unfortunately, claw made a fake medic claim, which is the best thing that the Mafia can hope for. Thus, I attacked him since that play was just wrong.
Then I turned my attention to Tofu as a result of his willingness to reveal after a medic claimed.
It seemed like this game was mostly townies making stupid decisions regarding role claims and votes, and me yelling at everybody, and then everybody getting mad that I was yelling at everybody.
Fun game. I think my next game isn't going to be a newbie mini, though. Don't know if my heart can take this!
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Looks legit. I definitely made the mistake that thinking bad play = scum.
I incorrectly thought, then, that hunting bad play was equivalent to hunting scum.
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