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@johny: i come from a different mafia community, i wont post any wifoms you guys think it is as bad as scumslips.
why is it strange that i change opinions? there was a lot going on between my vote on you and the post where I suspect MG.
"has to vote" yes. I waited a lot but in the end I had to vote Zeph. My strongest read was MG. If I vote MG I die.
I felt Risen was scummy, but the case was weak.
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On April 28 2012 08:38 Risen wrote: Whatever I'm voting ottoxlol. I gave up when I realized it came out that we lost a second blue. Who else is there to make a case on? I already screwed us by completely screwing up yesterday b/c I'm horrible. I read through people's filters and this game is so trashed what's the point? I'm going to vote for ottox, he's still my strongest scumread besides BM who everyone seems to be A OK with lurking like a boss then popping in for two seconds then popping back out. Same with freakin St Daniels I don't care that he was sick or whatever. Every game I'm in is ruined by lurkers. When ottox flips that means I'm lynched next. And then it's pretty much lylo according to gonzaw's earlier statement. I'm sorry, like I said earlier this is pretty much the second consecutive gamed I've ruined and I didn't even know I could ruin a game when I wasn't an alignment checker.
##vote: ottoxlol
I'm voting BM tomorrow.
There is always chance that you are wrong, you shouldn't give up. I am town, don't trust me, vote me, idc, but help finding the others meanwhile don't give up, because you won't be lynched tomorrow.
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On April 28 2012 09:01 johnnywup wrote: yeah that wouldn't make sense if they're both scum. I think it's safe to assume they're opposite alignments (i'm ruling out the both townie part because I feel that ottox is scum, and I don't think they could both be scum because risen did put in a lot of pressure unnecessarily). Seeing as Risen changed his vote last minute, if he was scum, he wouldn't care which one was lynched since they're both town, I think that makes it safe to assume Ottox is scum, Risen is town.
Thoughts?
That would be hilarious. Biggest fail in mafia? Why is it safe to assume were opposite?
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Exactly my point. Its not safe to assume that we are opposites because its only working if I am scum. You feel like it ok, but it is not 100%. If I am town, 99% Risen is town too.
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Why are we still talking about this me+Risen thing? lynching me will give all the information you need about Risen, you can discuss it next day. Talk about other stuff. This discussion leads nowhere and useless. We won't find any scum with it.
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On April 28 2012 07:19 Ottoxlol wrote:BM on MGalso this post Show nested quote +On April 27 2012 14:28 MidnightGladius wrote: I haven't been giving this game the attention I should, between cohosting, work, and term papers. I can see that my play this game was been really lacking, and I just haven't been feeling my reads. I've been hedging my posts, because I honestly haven't felt the same kind of conviction with my cases.
That said, mislynching me will cost us the game. You're just going to have to trust me. The fact that a bunch of townies have been pushing for me is disheartening, but I'm sure that you will find scum trying to hammer me today. I have no idea why would anyone trust you because you say so. Excuses also doesnt help the scumhunt, I think no one cares about food poisoning or cat funerals. ##vote MidnightGladiusBK started posting some weird stuff, hes voting St. Daniel for ninjavoting, but BM ninjavoted d1 too and he did not mention it at all. ghost and Sentinel doesnt want to engage in the debate of other possibilities then I am a scum. no one can be 100% sure so the discussion must be on even if they vote me, so when I flip green we will have information
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On April 29 2012 03:38 marvellosity wrote: Is town absolutely set on Ottoxlol today?
Or are Risen/MG/anyone else still a possibility?
It seems like we've not discussed MG at all today despite him being basically the dead layabout's strongest read for some time.
Is everyone so sure ottoxlol is scum ahead of MG?
town is not set on anything, they discuss everyone, trying to win. scum is tunneling me.
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Excluding Matt none of them replied I asked them the same thing. We had almost zero discussion today, outside the me-Risen speculations
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It was really alarming that he did not post or vote, I was thinking maybe they make something big last minute
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ghost soft defending StD
On April 24 2012 23:29 ghost_403 wrote: StDaniel is en route to being modkilled. If he comes back and does nothing, I will discuss him as a possible lynch candidate. Since he's not even playing, there's no point in pushing for his lynch.
He's attacking Sent because he's lurking, yet he did not even mention StD apart from that post.
Paqman's attacking BM for lurking, mentions BK, doesnt mention StD apart from two very soft defenses. He mentions that we waste d3 discussion on stupid speculation, but doesnt contribute a thing.
Janaan doesnt mention him at all, to be fair he's mentioning that we should not lynch lurker d2-3 because we have posts that we can work with (this was about BM's lynch so I don't think it is relevant).
Every other ppl mentioned StD for lynch target or scumread, but no one pushed him other then BK. StD layed really low tho.
ghost and Paqman are my reads based on their relations with StD, and their unwillingness to engage in the discussion in the thread.
Janaan gives me a headache, he would be my greenest read, but StD voted two times the person he made a case on. Of course this is not conclusive, but he was noob scum, and with Janaan not mentioning him it is a bit suspicious.
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I don't know where to start, so many scum I can't believe it. I think I hit the jackpot!
On April 30 2012 02:16 ghost_403 wrote: (1) His content is almost completely filler
Aside from my cases, what else would you like to see? I posted my suspicions, plans I almost got lynched.
On April 30 2012 02:16 ghost_403 wrote: (2) He almost completely ignores St.Daniels throughout the entire game.
Just like everyone else, you softdefended him at least.
On April 30 2012 02:16 ghost_403 wrote: (3) He makes stupidly scummy posts.
On April 25 2012 05:19 ghost_403 wrote: Sentinel has two votes. I vote we lynch him today and Ottoxlol tomorrow. Sound good?
On April 28 2012 00:56 ghost_403 wrote: Hey guys, let's lynch Ottoxlol.
##vote ottoxlol
On April 28 2012 04:39 ghost_403 wrote: @ottoxlol: Scummy enough I would take a look at him if I hadn't already decided to lynch you today. I'm not willing to consider anyone else until this Ottoxlol and Risen thing is taken care of.
After you post a case thats the copy of laya's post on the Risen lastminute vote issue and you decide that if Risen made a mistake he is a scum. Like VE, right?
About Zeph and johnny
On April 28 2012 08:32 Ottoxlol wrote: why is it strange that i change opinions? there was a lot going on between my vote on johny and the post where I suspect MG.
"has to vote" yes. I waited a lot but in the end I had to vote Zeph. My strongest read was MG. If I vote MG I die.
I felt Risen was scummy, but the case was weak.
About MG lynch. we had a good case, he gave up, no one pushed anyone else but BK. If you are so sure that I am scum and MG isnt why did you left after voting? Why not push me? I tell you why, because you are scum and you were fine either way. Another empty post, all of the accusations which had been answered already,
PaqMan:
Ok, you did contributed, my bad. The case on me was already discussed to death and you did not add anything, BM detto. Why calling me out because I change opinions after a day? You had the same town and scumreads from the start?
On April 27 2012 05:10 Ottoxlol wrote: I pointed out that is a mistake in his argument. I think BK is town. If JK/Tracker thinks I am scum, pointing out the uselessness of tracking or jailing BK is good.
Nice bolding there, trying to skew my post?
On April 27 2012 05:10 Ottoxlol wrote: I pointed out that is a mistake in his argument. I think BK is town. If JK/Tracker thinks I am scum, pointing out the uselessness of tracking or jailing BK is good. This part answers your question.
On April 22 2012 13:41 PaqMan wrote:Show nested quote +On April 22 2012 13:37 johnnywup wrote: paqman thats scummy of you. You spend all day saying why mattchew is scum and then you sheep him (note: i know its not completely sheeping). BM is definitely scummy but you spend all day saying why mattchew is scummy...why didn't you vote for him? ffs And it's blatantly idiotic of you to not vote for a dude who's been lurking the entire game and suddenly makes an unannounced vote without no explanation whatsoever. Have you not read my posts? I voted for Matt the second I started to think he's scummy.
Calling out johnny for not voting the ninja voter.
On April 23 2012 01:45 PaqMan wrote: Also, this is pure speculation, but what if BM is a GF? We're dismissing him and assuming our vigi (if we even have one) will shoot him.
Pushing BM but not StD for the ninja vote
On April 22 2012 13:39 PaqMan wrote: Mattchew's not off my site yet but wth wouldn't you vote for BM when the dude's been lurking the whole game and makes a quiet vote.
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On April 30 2012 05:46 [UoN]Sentinel wrote: All I can really say is Otto's back to his old strategy of defensive posting and not pushing anybody.
The same page.
On April 30 2012 00:52 Ottoxlol wrote:ghost soft defending StD Show nested quote +On April 24 2012 23:29 ghost_403 wrote: StDaniel is en route to being modkilled. If he comes back and does nothing, I will discuss him as a possible lynch candidate. Since he's not even playing, there's no point in pushing for his lynch.
He's attacking Sent because he's lurking, yet he did not even mention StD apart from that post. Paqman's attacking BM for lurking, mentions BK, doesnt mention StD apart from two very soft defenses. He mentions that we waste d3 discussion on stupid speculation, but doesnt contribute a thing. Janaan doesnt mention him at all, to be fair he's mentioning that we should not lynch lurker d2-3 because we have posts that we can work with (this was about BM's lynch so I don't think it is relevant). Every other ppl mentioned StD for lynch target or scumread, but no one pushed him other then BK. StD layed really low tho. ghost and Paqman are my reads based on their relations with StD, and their unwillingness to engage in the discussion in the thread. Janaan gives me a headache, he would be my greenest read, but StD voted two times the person he made a case on. Of course this is not conclusive, but he was noob scum, and with Janaan not mentioning him it is a bit suspicious.
I went into details in my "defensive post"
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Sorry I don't understand you. I posted the first one. They replied with some quality scumminess. I answered them and went into more details why I think they are scum. This is pushing. What are you talking about?
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On April 30 2012 08:50 Risen wrote: His case against ghost is really just him defending himself
What are you talking about? I made the first post, how is that just defense. :D he tried to defend himself, I replied, And it was not just defense. I point out scum. Something you don't do. Just for you my saver:
On April 30 2012 04:41 Ottoxlol wrote:Show nested quote +On April 30 2012 02:16 ghost_403 wrote: (2) He almost completely ignores St.Daniels throughout the entire game.
Just like everyone else, you softdefended him at least. Show nested quote +On April 25 2012 05:19 ghost_403 wrote: Sentinel has two votes. I vote we lynch him today and Ottoxlol tomorrow. Sound good? Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 00:56 ghost_403 wrote: Hey guys, let's lynch Ottoxlol.
##vote ottoxlol Show nested quote +On April 28 2012 04:39 ghost_403 wrote: @ottoxlol: Scummy enough I would take a look at him if I hadn't already decided to lynch you today. I'm not willing to consider anyone else until this Ottoxlol and Risen thing is taken care of. After you post a case thats the copy of laya's post on the Risen lastminute vote issue and you decide that if Risen made a mistake he is a scum. Like VE, right? About MG lynch. we had a good case, he gave up, no one pushed anyone else but BK. If you are so sure that I am scum and MG isnt why did you left after voting? Why not push me? I tell you why, because you are scum and you were fine either way. Another empty post, all of the accusations which had been answered already,
I love these arguments that I am not saying anything, I am just defending myself. I hope town reads my posts so we can lynch some scum.
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Hey guys, let's lynch Ghost_403.
##vote Ghost_403
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How's my lynch going to lead to other lynches? You mean to those who did not read my cases, just blindly voted me? Thats not good for you Matt.
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Hah. Is english your native tongue? How can u interpret this sentence as implication. Baseless accusations? That word means there was no quotes of what they have been posting. There was... No one attacking the case other then "its weak" "Ottox is so scummy lynch him". Scum stopping the thread, town is too weak to think by themselves, GG.
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This post exactly. I was talking about StD's relations. Sorry that I mentioned you were the only one voting him (somehow you interpreted this as I am trying to incriminate you?) Go back, find my post that I made after the one you quoted first. Then read the posts after that from the others.
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Nice chart, thank you for your thoughts Sent.
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