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ya'll need to stop being dicks to DrH. I completely understand why mafia flipped a shit and why DrH lost interest in hosting the game. You can see the effort he put in day one/two and night one posts. He actually waited till all item disputes were resolved (since you can only have two items) before posting the day two post. Obviously this game meant a lot to him and I actually said in private to sandroba that I was really happy that DrH was being such a good host because not a lot of hosts would sit at the deadline, stop the game there, ask everyone to stop posting, and then work things out before moving ahead. So DrH, don't sweat it, I know how much effort you put in.
As for the claims, mafia really got screwed this game. It was pretty obvious to me that sandroba was townie right at the start of the game due to his activity and his first original plan that fell through immediately when DrH killed it. Talking to him in IMs, I was 90% sure he was townie. Gm and sandroba hooking up in the beginning and being the tech and tech backup was just pure luck. From that point on they pretty much dominated the game once a vigi claimed to them and they shot a mafia member. I'd really just blame bad luck for the mafia loss on this one. So many key things came together for townie so early that by the time mafia could even respond, it was already too late. I do think mafia should have had a medic role though.
And by day two the game was more about finding townies than anything else. Tali was obvious townie day one and from rayzor and snarf privately asking tali to run for captain, I figured they were townie as well, especially since they did it immediately after tali's first or second post. Marv was townie as soon as we talked cause he claimed immediately to me and then later told me he was DT without me prompting him lol.
After Night one, Kurumi was townie to me because I found out he gave tali a good item, risk obviously shot l10f, and from there things just snowballed.
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Also I feel like jackal had a bit of a point. PM games are no longer PM games, they are IM games, which are very different from PM games. We should talk about if PM games should just be using TL PM or not.
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On April 21 2012 22:53 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On April 21 2012 22:34 MrZentor wrote: What would Acro have gotten if he had lived after solving the first puzzle? tracker
what would the second puzzle have don DrH?
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kenpachi method is a surefire method...but now that it's out there...
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wait, can we just rehost this game, take out the PMs, redo the item distribution and roles and then play it again?
cause i'd be ok with that. is anyone else ok with that?
It'd be just like that time RoL claimed jack and said Ace was checked as mafia right at the start of Day 1 even though RoL was Town Idiot and Ace was godfather.
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he's also never missed a vigi shot
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