we also do not know if roba speaks the truth.
No. You do not know if roba speaks the truth. Unless you have access to every communication involving roba, you can not speak for what we know.
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MrZentor
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we also do not know if roba speaks the truth. No. You do not know if roba speaks the truth. Unless you have access to every communication involving roba, you can not speak for what we know. | ||
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On April 19 2012 10:51 VayeshMoru wrote: Vayesh believes after listening to the com logs of coagulation that mr.zentor has a high chance of being an alien. Vayesh believes through reactions and contributions that strongandbig is also an alien. The last one seems to be one of erandor node or chaoser perhaps? The funny part is that I was trying to get somebody whom I know has a dt check to check Coag, because I thought he was scummy. I wanted him to check Coag on the first night. -.- | ||
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On April 13 2012 22:59 Kurumi wrote: Show nested quote + On April 13 2012 22:52 risk.nuke wrote: On April 13 2012 22:48 Kurumi wrote: On April 13 2012 22:46 risk.nuke wrote: On April 13 2012 22:45 Kurumi wrote: On April 13 2012 22:37 Coagulation wrote: I say we shoot page 13 out the airlock. Sandroba is scum and Ace is town, opinions? wanna lay down some reasons way or just gonna shout shit? I too can shout shit. Uh, what? I am clearly missing something there. You're defending sandroba? I'm asking you why you think the way you do? You do have reasons right. So do the pro-town thing and share them. I'm interested. I find it amusing that I asked Coag and You're the person to respond. 1st People want to lynch Ace for no reason. (some say it's a joke-gone-real) 2nd He actually says something related and helpful to the game. 3rd Sandroba has gone the same way like he did in his scum games. Say skype publicly and try to mess in the pm land. He wanted me to claim to him because he somehow knows a mechanics present in the game giving him possibility to break it. Bullshit. His excuse for voting Jackal as captain is that he wants somebody against Sand. On April 14 2012 04:49 Kurumi wrote: As for now Jackal's my vote. I'll vote for whoever is against sandroba. Talismania, You might need a shovel. He defends l10f. On April 14 2012 22:27 Kurumi wrote: Remember this post? Show nested quote + On April 14 2012 19:47 layabout wrote: On April 14 2012 19:26 froggynoddy wrote: On April 14 2012 09:13 layabout wrote: Having spent a rare day away from the computer due to frequent and annoying _____* I have had barely any time to read the thread. after a quick skim and a PM with sandro Part of me wants to vote GM for being a gentleman, and i would like to know if he intends to explain what he plans to do, and why he should be mayor. Will he try to enforce rules of proper conduct for instance? Will he lynch Kurumi who clearly does not care about catching scum? The rest of me wants to vote for sandro. If he really is committing all of this time to PM with so many players it should be very difficult for him to do so as scum. So in a sense voting for him is less risky because their is a reduced chance that he could remain alive and looking town if he is scum. He also has better than average early reads and is thus a good candidate by default. Is anybody else wondering why a town WBG would do this? + Show Spoiler [*] + I am not sure what the term is but i do know that all the lights dim and my PC turns itself off I'm really sorry if I'm being obtuse but can you explain to me the logic in your town read here? Which town read? Also for somebody that seems to value transparency l10f has shared very little. That's finger pointing. You've done this twice. To me and l10f. There's no contradiction in my post. Nobody asked You why You were away. Nobody cared. Then, why the hell would You post that You were busy? My early-game posts are early-game posts. Don't expect them to be too good. That goes for pretty much everybody. You can't have a fully fleshed out case 10 hours into the game, come on. The days are 48h for a reason (besides timezones) You posted a post full of fluff and I called You out on it. You also tried to lower opinion of GMarsh and make look sandroba better, my question is: WHY? You weren't so "confident" about sandroba then. You're lying. You don't even know what You've thought some time ago, but that's cool. When I am scum I have the same problems. Then I just usually lurk or just post a lot without attacking anybody, because it's easy! You support some shady D1 all-claim-to-one-guy plan with no reasoning. You just think sandroba is Town because he cares. I WOULD CARE TOO IF PEOPLE STARTED CLAIMING TO ME DAY ONE LOL Ace's looking Town because he's making all the good observations so far. Sandroba is scum because no town would try to get all the claims day 1 for no reason for the sake of "confirming them by a broken mechanic" Also, did You know I am Obama himself? Trust me, that's as true as Sandroba's intentions! He doesn't want responsibility for the Zentor bandwagon, because he knows it will end in a mislynched townie. On April 17 2012 07:32 Kurumi wrote: Show nested quote + On April 17 2012 07:29 VisceraEyes wrote: Ouch that's gotta sting Zentor - Kurumi nice catch. Who are your partners Zentor? Not mine. Layabout's. He defends Jackal hard. On April 18 2012 05:59 Kurumi wrote: Its five not two. Anyway, the item name inconsistency might be solved by host trying to save the setup from being broken. Also guys. Lets go with the words of another confirmed town Ace. We should not lynch active players. I agree with Jackal that pm games tend to suck because people post a lot less in the thread and many vets say that town tends to rely too much on blues and confirming people. Remember , the flip confirms someone. I am against Jackal lynch fully. I am more than happy to lynch someone scummy lurking. As for Zentor my gut still says town but the things shown are at least weird . Although I have hard time reading the thread because I dont sleep much or well at all so I get tired fast and am really weak after school. About Node : check his pregame posts. Check his in game posts. Did he just get lazy? On phone so cant quote. On April 18 2012 06:22 Kurumi wrote: Show nested quote + On April 18 2012 06:06 risk.nuke wrote: How is jackal active? He doesn't scumhunt, have basicly no scumreads and as far as I know he haven't talked to anyone exept for gm and sandroba in pm's. 1. Kurumi do you think we should kill all the lurking newbies who is likely town before we start scumhunting? 2. And how is jackals filter better then theirs? It is Jackal damnit. I dont say Jackal has done excellent scumhunting so far because he had done little to none, but I dont see how killing a guy who is around benefits us when we have people like Node talking how good town they want to play this game and the game starts and he goes lurky as hell. Sinani has meta of being lurky, just like damn Kenpachi and we cant do much. There are people who certainly know how to play but are lurking. Wbg is not as active as usual too. The item thing looks indeed pretty strong , although unless sandroba himself does not posses such an item then he cant be sure who is lying(if someone is) I just think we are at a similar situation like with Ace. We might be pulling the trigger too quickly. Jackal, have You lied to sandroba about Your item? Kurumi votes for Jackal as Captain first. On April 13 2012 17:39 Kurumi wrote: ##vote Jackal58 The bandwagon doesn't pick up, so he wastes his vote for Talismania. On April 15 2012 03:19 Kurumi wrote: ##unvote Jackal58 ##vote Talismania He also votes for me as a lynch and never switches to the alien overlord. On April 17 2012 07:39 Kurumi wrote: ##vote MrZentor In summary, he defends two people we know are scum, l10f and Jackal; attacks somebody who we know to be pro town, sandroba, and tries to start a bandwagon lynch against me without taking responsibility!! I'm wondering why nobody has seen this yet. Just sayin'. | ||
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On April 19 2012 11:40 chaoser wrote: Show nested quote + On April 19 2012 11:38 VisceraEyes wrote: LOOK AT THE BIG BALLS ON ZENTOR!!! ##Vote: Kurumi Good one sir. I feel stronger about this than any number of lurker lynches we could support today. /salute negative, kurumi is probably not mafia I know he gave an item to a person, but I do think he would make a good lynch(he claims he's vanilla townie and gave away his item), or at least a good dt check. | ||
MrZentor
United States1648 Posts
April 20 2012 01:57 GMT
#1074
On April 20 2012 10:08 RayzorFlash wrote: Show nested quote + On April 18 2012 00:38 talismania wrote: Ok. There are five people in this game who are scum. There are twenty who aren't. Here are the players from which I believe the scum team comes: MrZentor - A few reasons to think this as have been posted. One, as brought up by layabout via kurumi of course is the entanglement with l10f. l10f is bad at playing scum. The simplest explanation for his behavior is that he was trying to protect his scumbuddy when he saw someone attack him. Two is that his demeanor has changed over the course of the game. He started out with his bid for captaincy, ever since it fizzled and people started looking at him, he's been on the defensive. This is a weaker reason as town can act this way too. Also note strongandbig's point about his campaign for captaincy including the promise that people could lynch him if they disagreed with his decision-making. That made and still makes no sense from a town point of view - if you're town, why would you agree to let yourself get lynched under any circumstances? Three is that he basically revealed that he knew about acrofales' bombs. I haven't heard any replies from the people I PM'd about this yet so I'll just go ahead and post it. People seem to be confused by Acrofale's bomb. He could target a person at night with it, and if Acro died, the person died too. He could choose to move it to somebody else the next night or keep it on the same person. R.I.P Acrofales This means that acrofales told him how his bombs work. This means that MrZentor knew that if acrofales died, another person would die. This means that if MrZentor were scum, he knew that killing acrofales would be a 2 for 1. Also note that acrofales stated in the thread at one point that he thought MrZentor was acting scummy. Acrofales was targeted for a reason - part of it may have been his suspicion of l10f but another part of it may be this. Marvellosity, this explains why acrofales told you to be suspicious of Zentor if he died. The only part that doesn't make sense is why Zentor would even make that post - maybe someone else knew? Maybe he slipped in trying to appear helpful? Or this whole case is rubbish and he's town. Sinani206 Read Sinani's filter. Compare it to l10f's. Sinani does nothing day one but comment on the captaincy. It's all superficial game-content posts from him. There is no attempt at real scumhunting. There is no attempt at any protown plan. He hasn't responded to PMs. Yet he's still in the game, posting and making votes. His vote just now for ET reeks. Jackal58 He's on here almost by process of elimination and my own gut feeling to be perfectly honest. Here are his comments in PM land when asked what he thinks of sinani, node, and zentor: Node is AWOL too much. Don't know if he's going strong in PM land or not. Sinani drives me nuts but I think he's town. Zentor strikes me as a noob trying to get lynched. Dunno what he is. What do you make of them? What do you make of Sandroba? Original Message From talismania: what do you make of node, sinani, and zentor? Could be confirmation bias, but my eyebrows arched a bit when he asks me that fish-y question on sandroba. Here's the rest of the conversation: + Show Spoiler + I have never been right about Sinani. I don't expect to start being right about him today. He reminds me of Kenpachi. And Node I agree. I've only seen him disappear like this when he's been scum. You're right about Sandroba. I don't know why everybody claimed to him,and I still haven't ruled out that he may have used a vig to bus his teammate. Original Message From talismania: All three are near the scummy end of my list. sinani and node both only commented reactively to the captaincy discussion and have done little in the way of accusation or protown planning/ideas. At least sinani appears to still be playing the game. Sandroba is town or we're all royally fucked. You think there's something going on with him? coagulation Like, Jackal, this case isn't that strong. There's not much to go on here, but again it's almost process of elimination. He goes after ace fairly strongly, as maverick pointed out. That doesn't necessarily make him scum - many people had suspicions of ace at the time, myself included. His vote on prp does not sit right with me. Not necessarily because of who it was made on, but how it was made. Maybe I'm tunneling, but it was almost like "oh whew, people are interested in a townie lynch let me hop on that real quick". VayeshMoru Oh Vayesh. I really have no clue what your alignment is. You're on this list because you're voting Node right now, and Jackal is fingering him as well. That's weak, I admit. But you also have cast some suspicion on marvellosity, who gives me town vibe, as well as me. You were the only person and maybe are the only person in the game to ever publicly state a suspicion on me. I think it was something like "he's only trying to play for himself" or something when I had just made a post about making sure that everyone shared as much information as possible. ________ On the bubble: Node Node has the same MO as sinani day one - except he actually did put some pressure on someone (strongandbig). And he's also disappeared since then, whereas sinani has at least attempted to keep playing. He's mainly out here because Jackal is raising suspicions of him, and I think scum right now are fishing for viable lynch alternatives to themselves ________ Outside possibilities: Prplhz, erandorr. I wouldn't mind seeing these players flipped but I'm guessing they would come back town and would rather we go for one of ones higher up. Give this man a medal. Sinani/Zentor would be good lynches. Lets get Sinani out of here. ##vote: Sinani206 I think you town. Why act so stupid? | ||
MrZentor
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April 20 2012 02:02 GMT
#1075
Of course I knew about his bombs. He and I were best friends. <3 Assuming he was killed because of his bomb, and therefore I am scum is stupid. He was being very active by pming a lot of people, acting extremely townie, and pressuring l10f. He would be a great target for the scum, mostly because of the last part. | ||
MrZentor
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April 20 2012 21:45 GMT
#1143
At least they're mostly dead. Also Rayzor, I'm not scum. If you disagree, feel free to pm me, and I can show you why your reasons are idiotic. | ||
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April 21 2012 01:59 GMT
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April 21 2012 13:05 GMT
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April 21 2012 13:34 GMT
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