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The Sum of All Fears Mafia

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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
March 26 2012 03:52 GMT
#71
/replacement
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
March 31 2012 23:46 GMT
#913
Hi everyone, I am actually way behind on the thread so I will be spending the next few hours catching up.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 01 2012 21:58 GMT
#964
I am not finished with my read through but I want to get something out tonight so here are my impressions of day 1 and a recent occurrence.

Day1:

JW: I really did not like his self depreciating style or his buddying to VE. I don't like having to judge the sincerity of that kind of defense in order to make a scum read. And now I see that he is acting confused and defeated, the former is reasonable, the latter is unacceptable.

Bluelightz: His posting feels off to me from the last game I played with him where he was town. This is from memory, but what I'm reading from Bluelightz just isn't what I was expecting. Also, I didn't like that only halfway through day 1 he had a list of people he was comfortable lynching (Click). I think it is scummy that he didn't pressure or seriously analyze people he was willing to lynch. The exception being cccalf(me), who was absolutely safe to go after because of the hard lurking.

zelblade: I read zelblade as town.


More recent event:

Sinensis:
On April 01 2012 11:23 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 01 2012 07:04 Nemesis wrote:
I HATE YOU MRZENTOR! D:

/nothing personal


"It's called bussing."

Yeah. Bussing. Whatever screw this game we lost.

##vote: DoYouHas

On April 01 2012 11:24 Sinensis wrote:
I AM AWARE IT IS NIGHT but that is where my vote is going. No one is changing my mind.


I understand that the chance of us winning at this point is very low, but it is still there. Play to win, all the way to the end. Going into LYLO every single townie MUST be on one target or the game is already lost. Sinensis clearly thinks I should be this target, that is not why I care. I care because Sinensis isn't trying to convince anyone but himself. We are in a situation where a lack of focus is guaranteed to be fatal. Sinensis's actions only serve to cause chaos in the town right when we need to unify. I will be looking hard at his filter today.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 02 2012 06:08 GMT
#984
On April 02 2012 12:51 gonzaw wrote:
@DYH: Do something dude, I think you've had enough time to read the thread and filters, tell us your thoughts.


Hush gonzaw. You should know from games of mine you have observed or played in that I take my time. I don't read quickly and I have other things in my life besides mafia. I'm going to get my thoughts out, and well before crunch time.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 02 2012 15:15 GMT
#1001
The only viable lynches to me today are Sinensis and Bluelightz. JW alleviated my initial suspicion of him sufficiently by the time I finished reading.

Bluelightz, one post in particular caught my attention and largely flew under the radar:
On March 31 2012 08:57 Bluelightz wrote:
Okay I admit, I made many contradictions >_> have buddied VE on d1, on the vote switch I didn't understand that >.<, but, have I done anything to help town? I shared my reads, tried to start discussion, have added to discussion, etc

This was when MrZentor's craziness was in full swing, which is why I guess it did not receive the proper attention at the time. This, to me, is the equivalent of Blue putting his hands up and saying, "Yep, ya got me. I have done multiple scummy things.". He gets pressured a bit for it immediately afterward, but it is largely dropped. He admits to 3 scummy actions that remain scummy whether he acknowledges them or not. Posting many contradictions, actively buddying VE, and sheeping VE hard. And as for the other half of his claim? He shared a town read on ET, a desire to lynch ccc, and sowed suspicion on Gonzaw without pushing him for a lynch. Most everything else he has 'added' to the discussion has been sheeping and echoing back other people's statements.

Then we have Sinensis, my vote is going to him because if he is not scum then this game is already over. I also agree with slOosh's case against Sinensis and I don't want to be the one splitting the focus in LYLO. But those reasons are secondary. From where I stand, with it being LYLO and Sinensis stubbornly refusing to vote anyone but me, the game is already over if Sinensis is town. I have to vote him, and I'm happy to after reading his scummy behavior.

##Vote: Sinensis



After Sinensis is lynched we need to lynch Blue. I could easily see them being scumbuddies with posts like this interaction:
On March 27 2012 14:33 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 27 2012 14:24 Bluelightz wrote:
No Fucking Idea,

I'm gonna take more looks at people,

Has anyone took a look at ccalf? He has posted NOTHING! besides his /in post.

IMO I find Sinensis generally unhelpful with his posts, he has only posted some useless question, and said hes gonna watch Blazinghand, I feel he needs to step up.


IMO I find Bluelightz generally unhelpful with his posts, he has only posted some useless question, I feel he needs to step up.

Did you notice I couldn't even mock you fully because you've managed to contribute less than me?

Which makes it look like they are hostile towards eachother, but that is proven to be false when he posts this:
On March 28 2012 14:06 Sinensis wrote:
Show nested quote +
On March 28 2012 14:03 VisceraEyes wrote:
No, scum are trying to mislynch you Blue. No biggie, it happens ^^


Every game I have played with Bluelightz this happens. I would go so far as to say voting for Bluelightz day 1 is a scum tell on TL mafia.

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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 02 2012 22:38 GMT
#1009
I'm reluctant to speculate too much before Sinensis's lynch. If I add 1-2 more people I think are scum right now then I have practically a fully fleshed out scum list before even 1 red has flipped. Doing exactly that is what screwed me last time I was in LYLO. I don't want to alienate a townie by presenting a full scum team that may not be totally accurate.

I'm thinking ahead lynch wise, but I want to keep my focus small scale. Sinensis lynch + Bluelightz scum case today, Bluelightz lynch + a new scum case tomorrow.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 03 2012 22:05 GMT
#1035
This one isn't a win for me in my book. I didn't do anything.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 04 2012 00:46 GMT
#1080
The problem I saw with C_C posting the flag was the potential for role fishing, not because it revealed his nationality. BH was completely right that (until the diagram) posting the flag told you nothing about C_C's nationality. However, just by posting it C_C was risking people's first reactions being revealing enough that scum could use it to inform their kills.

It is not even that it is likely that something like that could happen. It is that C_C even opened that can of worms that is anti-town.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 05 2012 03:46 GMT
#1161
Before I replaced into this game I thought I would be forever town-aligned. Then when I do get to play scum it is for like 4 posts ^^.

On April 05 2012 11:51 Probulous wrote:
Show nested quote +
On April 05 2012 11:45 EchelonTee wrote:
On April 05 2012 11:30 Probulous wrote:
One day there will be an Adam, Gonzaw, Sloosh, ET, Mattchew, Cephiro and Probulous team and it will be glorious. Until that day...

^^ new(ish) blood of TL Mafia! I'd add DYH there

I don't think I've ever played with you, Probulous.


Oh yeah how could I forget DYH. Sorry mate!


I seem to recall you kept forgetting me in newbie3 as well. Boy did that come back around to bite you.
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DoYouHas
Profile Joined November 2008
United States1140 Posts
April 05 2012 03:52 GMT
#1165
I don't think I was ever the one who pointed it out to you. Other people would catch it before I did, and that suited my purposes just fine.
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