The fact of the matter is, as long as your terror tactic of "anyone who disagrees with me is scum" is in effect, you can't have a legitimate discussion with someone. Either your tactic is a bluff and you don't actually think I'm scum, or you're actually using it. I can't tell which is more preposterous.
The reason this argument is going nowhere is that you think I claimed scum. You think that anyone who disagrees with you automatically claims scum. That's not a good, reasonable way to run a town. You can't have a debate like that. Unless you're willing to end your terror tactics, I am obligated to not cooperate with you. In fact, I need to get you lynched, since it's becoming more and more clear you're scum.
On March 28 2012 13:35 VisceraEyes wrote: I'm voting for C_C BH. I think you should too.
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I'm done with this argument. It's going nowhere.
No, you don't think I should-- you think I'm scum, right? Unless you think one of me or C_C is town.
If VE is bussing CC, how is voting CC a bad thing? Is it that you think VE gains infinite town cred -> unlynchable that you stress this now?
Voting CC isn't a bad thing, if VE and CC are both scum. That being said, it seems to me that VE is scum, and his response to any sort of questioning of his position or even his case on CC means that the person questioning MUST be claiming scum.
This is not the attitude of a town player. This is evidence that VE is scum. So he must die.
On March 28 2012 13:42 VisceraEyes wrote: But that's not what's going on here. I find your absolute refusal to listen to reason regarding Jdub and voting for C_C to be scummy as shit. It has nothing to do with "terror tactics". It has everything to do with your actions in the game and my interpretation of them.
Now, if you'd do something...such as vote for C_C and grant Jdub time to prove his alignment further to you (because your Jdub wagon is going nowhere you idiot)...then maybe the reasons I think you're scum would......DISAPPEAR. Like magic, see?
You're being ridiculous, and I think that it means you're scum. *shrug*
Now stop being abrasive and vote for C_C please.
Ah, at last some reasoning! Let me break this down for you:
I was like "JW seems like scum to me". Then he made various responses, which made me think he was more scummy. All his votes and reasonings behind them strike me as highly scummy. I've addressed him and given him plenty of time to respond, and EVERY RESPONSE has made him seem scummier and scummier.
grant him time to prove his alignment? The dude's made tons of posts and has had over a day. he had his time, and he proved his alignment. And then you come in here as the biggest terrorist ever.
You say "oh it's not real terror tactics" but what else do you call it? Do you really think JW is town? I don't think so. So you're labeling me as scum because of the ORDER we were gonna lynch the scum players in?
No, that's not a town VE play. That's scum VE trying to retain control of the town.
Indeed. After all, if I claimed scum, it wouldn't be logical at all for your vote to remain on someone else, now would it? In fact, it would be surprisingly scummy for your vote to do so given that was what you believed.
I will let your exaggeration pass this time, Mr. VE. That being said, I've got my eye on you. No more inconsistencies. IF you think someone is claimed scum, you better vote them.
C_C, it looks like you have about an hour and a half to live. It's fairly unlikely that I (or anyone else) can stop this wagon now. That being said, there's still things you can do. When you flip, if you're town, you'll be confirmed town, and you already know how you're going to flip. If you're town, you should prepare a clear, concise, and well-argued post of your reads. You know just as much as we're going to know for the next 24 hours, and this will be a useful statement by a confirmed (if dead) townie.
If you are gonna go out D1 as a townie, you must be like the esteemed artist Lil Wayne and die with your finger on the trigger.
I still believe JW is the mostly likely to flip scum. If there's anyone else who's not AFK between now and lynch time who would like to be convinced, or would like to try to convince me, I'm here.
Well, I *want* him to flip scum since he's getting lynched. I don't think he will... so in the event he IS town, he now has directions to at least be helpful in his last hour alive. That's not so unreasonable is it?
I want JW to flip because I think he's scum. It's fairly unlikely I'll be able to get him lynched today, however. Also, depending on how C_C flips we'll be able to do bandwagon analysis that could point us towards other leads.