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On March 25 2012 10:35 Mattchew wrote: No I'm confirmed town because layabout and alj and dyh flipped town
How does that make you town? I'm confused. WBG that's exactly what I said >.>
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Ok so mafia knows that acro is being lynched either today or tomorrow 100%. What are they going to do now? They can't just discredit me b/c they'll have to vote to lynch me, which will lead to acro lynch day3. They can't ignore me b/c then acro gets lynched today. Maybe they've already given up on acro living past today and just want to act as pro-town as possible since the discussion today will be entirely focused on whether I'm lying or not
If it's decided I'm lying, then I'm lynched and acro is gone tomorrow so all the discussion tomorrow will be useless as well, if it's decided I'm telling the truth acro is lynched today and tomorrow brings fresh discussion. Or the case I'm not bringing up because it's impossible, acro flips town and I'm therefor mafia and discussion today is pointless and discussion tomorrow is pointless as I'm the obvious lynch.
Therefor, I think the best possible outcome for us is lynching acro today. When he flips mafia I'm confirmed town and we're happy as shit and in a really good spot. (Even if he flips town it gives you a free mafia lynch tomorrow, again this won't happen but town is still in a pretty damn decent position)
Sums up any input I'll have today I think. Time for me to go to my movie, I'll be back later folks.
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On March 25 2012 10:42 wherebugsgo wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:39 Risen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:35 Mattchew wrote: No I'm confirmed town because layabout and alj and dyh flipped town How does that make you town? I'm confused. WBG that's exactly what I said >.> Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:34 wherebugsgo wrote:On March 25 2012 10:28 Risen wrote:On March 25 2012 10:16 Mattchew wrote: Cool so I'm like confirmed town If you follow the logic that acro=mafia then mattchew=town? Yes. I've been thinking. WBG wants a close endgame. He told us greymist was mafia, but we lynched a townie anyways. He's now pushing hard on me. He knows I'm town, so his motives to me are suspect (obviously). It comes back to the 10-3 town to mafia at the start of night 3 should I be lynched as he wants, which is pretty on track for a WBG victory assuming it drops to 8-3 following night 3. Maybe it's the first one and he's just trying to show us who the mafia is by outlining who jumps on me. I hadn't considered that a 10-3 town/mafia ratio is perfect for him at the end of day 3 when I originally posted, though. by that logic, if I wanted a close endgame that means... *gasp* RISEN IS SCUM LOL There you have it ladies and gentlemen, Risen has claimed scum. Again. If you don't kill him, you're seriously braindead.
I think my position is pretty clear. The path for everyone today and (possibly if I'm lynched) tomorrow is set in stone. Focus your trolling on something that isn't set in stone. If I was you I'd start casting one of the mafia players as town and one of the other townies as mafia. If neither me nor acro is lynched today I'm trolling the shit out of this game from now on.
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On March 25 2012 12:37 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 11:44 Lyter wrote: With regards to wbg, am I right in saying that the only evidence we have as to what his purpose in this game is, is that the character you portray from the book is untrustworthy? If so, I don't even get why people bring up what this guy says as though it might support something they have to say or they feel the need to stand up to his accusations. I'm not posting much because I don't have much of a clue as to wtf is going on at the moment lol, is every mafia game this weird? People just seem to be hurling shit at each other for not a whole of reason.
Bed now anyway, cya in the morning
Yes, you're right. I can think of a couple more purposes for WBG's character too: -When you want to seem like you're contributing something but you're really not, you can just examine some part of the nonsense he's spewing at the time. -If you're mafia, you can get upset and pitch a fit when he says something like "I'm going to shoot you because I have vigi powers because that makes sense." -When everyone else is either ignoring you or calling you scum, you can talk to him instead of trying to participate constructively. I am voting ##vote evantrees and I am offering ZERO explanation as to why. Does this bother you Risen?
How the fuck? Lynching evantrees is fucking bonkers. Lynch me, or lynch acro. A lynch not on me or acro furthers scum agenda. If you don't want to vote acro, vote me. That way you guys know I'm telling the truth. It's really that simple.
Spoilers is all caps for easy reading.
+ Show Spoiler +TWO OPTIONS. IM MAKING THIS STUPID EASY FOR TOWNIES AND GIVES YOU GUARANTEED MINIMUM 10-3 TOWN-MAFIA END OF DAY 3 WORST CASE SCENARIO. OR BEST CASE ACRO IS LYNCHED TONIGHT AND IT'S 13-3 TOWN-MAFIA GOING INTO NIGHT 2
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On March 25 2012 13:41 GreYMisT wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 10:46 Risen wrote: Ok so mafia knows that acro is being lynched either today or tomorrow 100%. What are they going to do now? They can't just discredit me b/c they'll have to vote to lynch me, which will lead to acro lynch day3. They can't ignore me b/c then acro gets lynched today. Maybe they've already given up on acro living past today and just want to act as pro-town as possible since the discussion today will be entirely focused on whether I'm lying or not
If it's decided I'm lying, then I'm lynched and acro is gone tomorrow so all the discussion tomorrow will be useless as well, if it's decided I'm telling the truth acro is lynched today and tomorrow brings fresh discussion. Or the case I'm not bringing up because it's impossible, acro flips town and I'm therefor mafia and discussion today is pointless and discussion tomorrow is pointless as I'm the obvious lynch.
Therefor, I think the best possible outcome for us is lynching acro today. When he flips mafia I'm confirmed town and we're happy as shit and in a really good spot. (Even if he flips town it gives you a free mafia lynch tomorrow, again this won't happen but town is still in a pretty damn decent position)
Sums up any input I'll have today I think. Time for me to go to my movie, I'll be back later folks. You are not confirmed town when/if acro flips scum we do not know that mafia knows that acro is being lynched today or tomorrow 100% Why even ask us to consider the fact that you will flip scum, if you are not? This, in addition to your extremely defensive nature (during night might I add) leads me to believe you are scum. ##Vote: Risen
Because when I flip detective you'll know I've checked him.
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EBWOP: I'm guaranteed sane as per OP
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Double EBWOP: I think it's pretty simple to see how mafia knows acro is being lynched either today or tomorrow, and will form their strategy around that.
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On March 25 2012 13:50 wherebugsgo wrote: Risen's DT claim is about as valid as my DT claim.
Which is why I need to be lynched tonight or acro needs to be lynched. So you can verify that I am town detective, then lynch acro. This will leave town 10-3 and in a pretty decent spot.
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The only tough part about this is that when it turns out wbg is lying about me, what do we do about his claim that Greymist is mafia. I almost investigated him instead of acro, but figured an acro lynch would be more beneficial as a lot of people already think Greymist is mafia.
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EBWOP: We should be talking about our day 3/4 lynches right now people. If you want to lynch me start thinking about who you want to lynch day 4 and why. If you want to lynch acro we need to look into those who we think are scummiest. I'm thinking Lyter needs to be looked at hard, evantrees behind him. I doubt both lurkers are mafia, though.
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On March 25 2012 14:11 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 13:28 Risen wrote:On March 25 2012 12:37 Sinensis wrote:On March 25 2012 11:44 Lyter wrote: With regards to wbg, am I right in saying that the only evidence we have as to what his purpose in this game is, is that the character you portray from the book is untrustworthy? If so, I don't even get why people bring up what this guy says as though it might support something they have to say or they feel the need to stand up to his accusations. I'm not posting much because I don't have much of a clue as to wtf is going on at the moment lol, is every mafia game this weird? People just seem to be hurling shit at each other for not a whole of reason.
Bed now anyway, cya in the morning
Yes, you're right. I can think of a couple more purposes for WBG's character too: -When you want to seem like you're contributing something but you're really not, you can just examine some part of the nonsense he's spewing at the time. -If you're mafia, you can get upset and pitch a fit when he says something like "I'm going to shoot you because I have vigi powers because that makes sense." -When everyone else is either ignoring you or calling you scum, you can talk to him instead of trying to participate constructively. I am voting ##vote evantrees and I am offering ZERO explanation as to why. Does this bother you Risen? How the fuck? Lynching evantrees is fucking bonkers. Lynch me, or lynch acro. A lynch not on me or acro furthers scum agenda. If you don't want to vote acro, vote me. That way you guys know I'm telling the truth. It's really that simple. Spoilers is all caps for easy reading. + Show Spoiler +TWO OPTIONS. IM MAKING THIS STUPID EASY FOR TOWNIES AND GIVES YOU GUARANTEED MINIMUM 10-3 TOWN-MAFIA END OF DAY 3 WORST CASE SCENARIO. OR BEST CASE ACRO IS LYNCHED TONIGHT AND IT'S 13-3 TOWN-MAFIA GOING INTO NIGHT 2 See, I thought that would bother you. I'm voting evantrees because I said I would until he responded, and he hasn't. I am being consistent. It's a good talent toi have when playing this game.
Being consistent in the face of overwhelming evidence is stupid. I'm sacrificing myself here so we have a pretty damn decent shot going into night 3.
Here's my overwhelming evidence. I'm claiming openly in thread that I checked acro. He is scum. Two possibilties here. I'm lying, I'm scum, lynch me. I'm telling the truth, I'm not scum, lynch acro. Lynching acro obviously is the best option, but even the worst option here is pretty good for town. I'm lynched tonight and acro is lynched tomorrow. I don't think I can make it any simpler than that.
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On March 25 2012 14:15 Sinensis wrote: EDIT Further, just because you've been spamming for pages and pages ever since people started voting for you, doesn't mean other stuff in the thread doesn't apply. But I bet you wish it did work that way right about now!
Yes, I do. I wish I could have everyone vote me right now and tell Curu to end the day. That way town could get through day3 as fast as possible. As of now the next 91 hours of day time (only 43 if acro is lynched) are going to be worthless.
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On March 25 2012 14:26 Sinensis wrote: Let me explain something to you. Just because you think you have a plan, and you're pretty sure it makes sense, and you think it's a good plan, and you want people to believe you and do what you say, doesn't mean you actually have/are going to accomplish any of that.
I have no idea how people could ignore me and not lynch me. My plan is going through one way or the other. Deal with it.
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On March 25 2012 14:41 Sinensis wrote:Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 14:30 Risen wrote:On March 25 2012 14:26 Sinensis wrote: Let me explain something to you. Just because you think you have a plan, and you're pretty sure it makes sense, and you think it's a good plan, and you want people to believe you and do what you say, doesn't mean you actually have/are going to accomplish any of that. I have no idea how people could ignore me and not lynch me. My plan is going through one way or the other. Deal with it. Next time you role claim detective, don't do it like this: "Hey guys I'm the detective, lynch me!" Do it like this: "Hey guys I'm the detective, don't lynch me!"
normally I'd agree, but we have a third party troll. Things had to be done to show that no one should listen to wbg
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On March 25 2012 15:19 Alderan wrote: Risen is keeping up this whole farce that Acro is getting lynched today.
Is anyone planning on voting Acro?
That's what I thought....
##Vote: Risen
Greymist is next....
Negative, acro is next.
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Mods when I reach majority can we prematurely end the day? Will speed this game up.
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On March 26 2012 03:44 Acrofales wrote:Chaoser. I agree with your possible cases. You also drew them a lot prettier than I did in my post against Risen's earlier case. I just fail to see why mafia needs to be DT. Is there some strange mechanic in the game where mafia can't see other mafia? Mafia knows mafia, right? So why does it matter whether risen is DT or not if he's mafia? If he's mafia, he knows I'm a townie. What I don't know is why anybody is paying any attention to him. Actually, now that I think about it a bit more, I have a theory. The way he jumped in just 2 hours before the deadline to blueclaim is exceedingly damning. If he's really blue this must be the worst possible timing. Additionally he uses WBG's drivel as an excuse insofar as he needed one. Show nested quote +On March 25 2012 06:53 Risen wrote:On March 25 2012 06:50 Acrofales wrote: Seeing as nothing of note is happening at the moment and we're all waiting for WBG to be chucked out the moon door (PLEASE CURU, DO IT!!!). I have a question for WBG (yes, I want to be trolled).
WBG: why are 3/4 of your posts obsessed with killing Greymist or asserting that he is scum? Pretty sure he's telling scum not to rb him so he can shoot me. Also, should I roleclaim? Everyone seems to want me dead. How is this not a mafia setup? If he really is a DT, he was just setting himself up to be offed by a mobster. If, however, he is mafia, he knows he's not getting killed by his teammates. With his earlier pushes for me to get vig'd he suspected I would react. This just sets him up for his day 2 play of painting me as scum: 1. He has put me and him directly opposit each other. 2. He has announced his blue claim prior to it actually happening. It also makes sense of a lot of his really crappy posting yesterday evening.
You're an idiot for not claiming miller at this point.
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On March 26 2012 04:59 chaoser wrote: Doesn't matter, acro. due to the situation risen has created, the only way out is if both of you get lynched/shot. Anything else leaves too much WIFOM. Unless something crazy comes up, this is the most beneficial play. At the very least we should be getting one scum.
Precisely why I'm still thinking this is the best play. It's looking like it will be 10-3 going into night 3, and I'm perfectly fine with that. We lose a dt in the process, but I think with other blues still out there we should be fine.
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On March 26 2012 04:01 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On March 26 2012 03:46 Risen wrote: You're an idiot for not claiming miller at this point. Er, I don't know if you know but miller isn't a role. Thus you can't really "claim" miller since you don't know yourself if you are a miller or not. If you really did "check" acro then you shouldn't be able to tell if he's a miller or if he got framed or if he's straight up mafia. The fact that you didn't even mention the notion of him being framed is interesting...why did you go straight to telling him he's an idiot for "not claiming miller"? Aside from Acro, if he was unlynchable today, who do you think is scummy?
Sorry didn't see this. Zealos is looking like he's trying to portray really dumb townie, Mattchew is looking like he's trying to portray smart townie, and Greymist feels to me like he set up this whole pain train on me when he accused me of buddying him (when it's p clear that I never did with exception of saying only idiots would take his lynch wbg statement seriously)
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On March 26 2012 05:21 Zealos wrote: Risen first, when he inevitably flips vanilla scum we can move on.
EBWOP: And he solidifies his "really dumb townie" position well here (If I didn't make it clear in my previous post I think he's scum, I think Mattchew is scum, and I think Greymist is scum). He'll OMGUS me once I'm lynched and be in the clear. He deserves looking into tonight, imo.
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