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On February 11 2012 20:26 DoctorHelvetica wrote: It's close but it isn't exact. Not following, does this mean Palmar is still the Joker, or lying?
I haven´t heard anyone else mention veterans taking hits for vigis, so doesn´t sound like something he heard from someone else.
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On February 11 2012 20:29 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 20:23 Palmar wrote:On February 11 2012 20:07 Forumite wrote:On February 11 2012 19:42 Palmar wrote:On February 11 2012 19:42 rgTheSchworz wrote:On February 11 2012 19:35 Palmar wrote: I got hit last night. Look, are you trying to troll us all this game? If you re not dead tonight I suppose you re somewhere on my lynch list. I'm not trolling I'm not lying. I got hit last night. If you were hit last night, why are you not dead? Because as long as clayface lives he takes all hits for the joker. this sentence is not really smart DocH got an even bigger target on himself, especially if they are right now confirming eachother.
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On February 11 2012 20:35 DoctorHelvetica wrote:Show nested quote +On February 11 2012 20:30 rgTheSchworz wrote: Dr, answer me this: Does Palmar Die this night?
Don't know if he will. Vigilantes shouldn't shoot him. The only reason I believe Palmar to be town is that he pushed Sheth a bit too hard day 1 and Toades, who I assume to be the real joker, never seemed to have a problem with Palmars claim. To make things more confusing for the potential Batman, in addition to being Clayface, I am also the Joker. Invulnerable to Batman. From what I understand nothing can kill the actual Joker as long as I'm alive. It could be Palmar, it could be Toades, it could be someone afraid to CC. Since I can't die by third party I just need a medic to keep me alive so that scum doesn't hit me and Batman is basically forced to just go off and look for Hugo instead. This is much better than the crazy plan Palmar put together to direct Radfield.
How shall we direct medics to protect you? I think naming 3 medic roles, and hoping at least 2 of them are in the game, and at least one of them agree, is the best way.
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DocH, are you SURE Batman can´t kill you, and that Batman can´t touch the Joker while you are alive? Because otherwise he is going to kill off 2 Townies and 1 Scum, which is a different situation than Palmar said earlier about Radfield.
If you are 100% sure that you and the Joker are safe from batman, then that´s a different story, and making a deal with Batman might even work, while you live at least.
Right now I´m leaning Palmar as Batman, because his play doesn´t feel like his normal Townplay, and he´s the one who convinced Town to work with Batman in the first place.
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I have a simple question. Who is scum? I hear active ones call eachother scum back and forth, and it got all mixed up a while back. Right now I know DocH had a scumread on Kurumi, and Batman Palmar wants to kill Chaoser, but that doesn´t give us much to work with tomorrow.
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On February 11 2012 22:39 Toadesstern wrote: my list still stands: Chaoser Sheth <--- dead forumite risk.nuke opz layabout hiro Lynch these people unless you got a good damn reason not to. Thanks. I know the list is incorrect on at least one point, but still good to know the reads of another Townie. I have a strong Townread on precious few, and you and DocH are two of them.
Radfield, is he and Palmar scum, bussing Sheth, or is Radfield a DT who was rolechecked by Palmar during the night?
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On February 12 2012 01:21 Radfield wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 00:19 chaoser wrote: Also, it's pretty clear from my perspective that Palmar is batman. He's trolling too hard to be town and he's not mafia given his hard Sheth push Day 1. Look at his play in this game and his play as Gollum in LOTR, especially on the last day just before he was going to get the Ring. Troll heavy in both of them. Palmar is not Batman, because then I would be dead. Conversely he lied about hitting me, but that doesn't really make sense from a Batman perspective. You're also assuming that Palmar is a straightforward player who follows his meta, which is patently untrue. Who do you think is scum Chaoser? Who is at the top of your list? I'll admit I've been skim reading, but by this point I feel like I should know who you think is scum and who you think is town, yet I don't have a good picture of your thoughts. Enlighten me. Why couldn´t Palmar be Batman and rolecheck you last night? His rolecheck found a DT, which is usefull for a scapegoat, because you did check someone the night before. It´s not like Palmar hasn´t lied about everything else he´s done.
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On February 12 2012 02:37 rgTheSchworz wrote: Nope, we hang Jaybrundage tomorrow. He s been scummy as fuck. And Palmar hasn´t?
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On February 12 2012 02:44 rgTheSchworz wrote: Palmar is hard to read. Btw how the F does his actions make sense as scum? He doesn´t read as Town to me, so he´s either doing a crazy gamble as scum, or a crazy gamble as 3rd party. Either way we should lynch him.
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On February 12 2012 02:50 Toadesstern wrote: Palmar claimed Two-Face early on after I claimed Two-Face. He claimed "everyone knows I'm just a retarded vet who tried to catch some bullets" and he claimed Joker afterwards. Basicly palmar tried to protect me because he thought I was making this immortality stuff up and did not realize that Jackal quoted the very phrase that proves that I am actually not bullshiting.
Nevertheless he tried to defend me. I don't want to lynch him, not before 4 or 5 other people die. I disagree. He has done some pro-Town things, including some WIFOM, but while he does this he also creates as much disruption in the discussion as he can. That´s not the Town-Palmar I know, Town-Palmar leads town, he doesn´t confuse town.
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On February 12 2012 03:07 rgTheSchworz wrote: No, we re not lynching Palmar, I almost surely know his role. Do you think he´s Town?
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On February 12 2012 03:09 rgTheSchworz wrote: Yes.That or he s third party which is likely also: He s trolling a lot. I don´t see any point with keeping him around if he´s 3rd party, but if you think he´s likely Town then I´ll accept that for now. I don´t see it myself, but perhaps you have some more info.
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On February 12 2012 03:20 Toadesstern wrote: Fancy Conclusion: I do agree he's trolling WAY MORE this game but saying palmar doesn't troll as town is a straight up lie. He cares for town if he's town but lately he started doing stuff d1 like I approached it this game: As long as someone else people are listening to is pushing the right buttons there is no need to pull a p4n on us, bomb the thread with 20 different cases and yell why I am right and not the guy presenting case X. As mafia he's not even reading the thread. That proves that he's not mafia this game but could very well end up being 3rd party or blue. However, I don't see a reason to lynch him yet. That´s not the way I remember him play, but I wasn´t in L, and I don´t think I was in the earlier game either. I´ve been wrong about Palmar before. I don´t think we can deal with a 3rd Party, so if he´s not Town, then he should die.
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On February 12 2012 03:18 Jayjay54 wrote: forumite. how are things? I couldn't find in your posts who you'd like to lynch right now. any suggestions? Strong suspicion on Palmar, weaker on rg (until he claims), qualis, kurumi and radfield (after the batman-affair). I doubt anyone of them will swing, except perhaps Kurumi, but those are the ones I have a bad feeling about.
Townreads on Toades, DocH and OpZ.
Worried about lurkers, and this game has too many of them. A group of people who keep up and post a lot, then a horde who don´t have time to read, doesn´t post and get forgotten. We will end up with them at LYLO, and when we do, then we won´t have any idea who among them are scum and who are Town. Bill for example, he´s been called scummy several times, but he´s not around enough, so everyone forgets aout him.
Sorry for not being more specific, Day 2 and Night 2 so far have been confusing. Is there anyone specific you´d like my opinion on?
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On February 12 2012 03:46 rgTheSchworz wrote: We re lynching scum, period. Any third party-we ignore. Joker is protected and for some reason im still alive as Two-Face.
Forumite, you re scummy. Better be prepared to defend your case tomorrow. I disagree about not lynching 3rd Party, but I guess I´m the only one.
Are you Two-Face now?
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On February 12 2012 03:57 Kurumi wrote: Schworz is not Two-Face. And Toad is not Joker, or whoever he damn claimed. Would you clarify, today or tomorrow?
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On February 12 2012 04:00 Kurumi wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 03:58 Forumite wrote:On February 12 2012 03:57 Kurumi wrote: Schworz is not Two-Face. And Toad is not Joker, or whoever he damn claimed. Would you clarify, today or tomorrow? what Do you want to reveal why you think/know this tonight, or if you are afraid to call out the real blues, tomorrow?
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On February 12 2012 15:24 evantrees wrote:Two dead vets strange night. Ok now I think he might be scum, will have to check the filters though. Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 15:07 RayzorFlash wrote:On February 12 2012 14:57 rgTheSchworz wrote: DrH was doublestacked. He s freaking clayface he needs 2 shots. Who vigged WBG? CW/BM didn t shoot WBG. Look at what he posts. He sticks to Kurumi and Rad/Me.He defo wanst Joker or any kind of vig/DT. More scum than anythig else. Kurumi s town btw, there s no way these 2 are scum together. Maybe Rad killed him, I would assume that only if Rad does not post his check or posts that he checked a completely random townie.
WBG, as Ra's, needed either 2 shots or 1 unblockable shot, as such it seems most likely that it was a Batman/Catwoman hit, because I don't think two vigs would have both gone after him... Um what? Looks like he started as a plain VET+DT to me, If he took a hit already and was being protected that would be the case. Was he already hit scummy bugger? Tonight one veteran died, also one powerrole scum died, don´t lump them together.
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On February 12 2012 21:00 Toadesstern wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 11:52 wherebugsgo wrote:On February 12 2012 11:41 Toadesstern wrote: I'm just afraid schworz might flip worst DT I ever saw and I got good reason to believe so. I'm willing to lynch him later on but for now we'Ve got bigger fish in the pool and that fish is chaoser. We can still go after schworz later on.
What he did does not make sense from a mafia perspectiv neither does is make sense from a town perspective. A mafia however get's coaching from his allies. So it's not mafia imo. That leaves me with either BM-townish or with third party. Just answer me this one wbg. Why should he claim DT who got a red check on docH and push for docH's lynch if he knew it to be wrong? why would he do that as town? are you thick? as scum that takes loads of pressure off his scumbuddies. If he was scum with Sheth that makes PERFECT sense. In fact, even the retraction makes sense from a scum perspective when it was obvious Sheth would not lynch. People like you are unwilling to believe he's scum now just because he's a new player and you legitimately think he could be that bad to do that as town. It makes no sense from a GOOD mafia perspective, but it certainly does from a bad one. It makes no sense at all from any kind of town perspective because it just serves to shit on town objectives. btw I take it schworz is confirmed townie for now. Noone lynch or shoot him. Meh, I guess you are right.
I can still not figure out what Palmar is up to, but most of the spammy part of the players, toades, rg, kurumi, look town, and they vouch for Palmar.
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On February 12 2012 21:27 Jayjay54 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 12 2012 21:17 Toadesstern wrote: It's probably improving our situation. Everyone knows I am confirmed Joker. Batman knows my immortality never was a fake to begin with, he also knows I am now mortal. Mafia still has to kill me and they will. Batman sure as hell won't waste a hit on me, he can simply let mafia deal with me now that I'm mortal again and search for Hugo. Mafia hits are np to some degree because medics can save me after all. EZPZ. I'm still up for lynching people like hiro or chaoser.
Chaoser was "checked" by our beloved falseclaimer. Since he didn't say otherwise, I'd say it came back blue / green. What? When? Didn't rg only fakeclaim checking DocH?
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