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rG claims hit BM claims hit Rad claims hit (claimed by Palmar) Kenpachi killed (claimed by toad) Jackal hit (killed) Slardar hit (killed) rG claims Catwoman did not hit. IF Rad is Batman he used his DT power. 3 mafia KP 1 CW KP 1 BM KP If, as you say, CW nor BM hit that means either 4 vig's shot last night or some people are lying. | ||
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On February 11 2012 19:40 Adam4167 wrote: This is why I asked Kurumi if he shot last night. He was the only one who really took interest in Slardar and I just cant justify that as a mafia hit... it just makes no sense on N1. Makes sense. Shoot noobs so that our veteran scum doesn't get singled out for surviving. | ||
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On February 11 2012 20:23 Palmar wrote: Because as long as clayface lives he takes all hits for the joker. This is not true. | ||
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If I survive the night the Joker can't die. I also can't be killed by Batman or Catwoman, just scum/vig. A scum/vig hit will take me out and open up the possibility of the Joker dying. That's why I need medics. I think it's pretty clear from Toades' posts regarding the issue, his claims of invulnerability, etc. that he is the real joker. I just don't understand the point of Palmar's lie, it's easy enough to keep Toades alive knowing this. Medics just need to keep me up. | ||
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On February 11 2012 20:30 rgTheSchworz wrote: Dr, answer me this: Does Palmar Die this night? Don't know if he will. Vigilantes shouldn't shoot him. The only reason I believe Palmar to be town is that he pushed Sheth a bit too hard day 1 and Toades, who I assume to be the real joker, never seemed to have a problem with Palmars claim. To make things more confusing for the potential Batman, in addition to being Clayface, I am also the Joker. Invulnerable to Batman. From what I understand nothing can kill the actual Joker as long as I'm alive. It could be Palmar, it could be Toades, it could be someone afraid to CC. Since I can't die by third party I just need a medic to keep me alive so that scum doesn't hit me and Batman is basically forced to just go off and look for Hugo instead. | ||
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I can't die to Batman naturally. I can die to scum/vig which is why I need the medic. | ||
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On February 11 2012 20:42 Jayjay54 wrote: you can't die to third party? wow, that's handy. Seems to me like this game was designed for Joker and possibly Two-face/Penguin to survive for a while. Batman/CW are really powerful so it's only natural there would be checks like this against them. I could have claimed Joker to draw a Batman bullet but I'd just get sniped by mafia within 2 nights, he'd realize he can't kill me and start DTing, and the real Joker might CC and then end up with me getting lynched. that would force me to claim my real role and undo the original plan. That's why I toyed around with claiming/acting as the joker in the phone network day 1 | ||
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Toades is the Joker, don't be stupid. | ||
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They could both be third party. | ||
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But I'm invulnerable to third party, Joker is immune to everything. The idea is that I shapeshift into Joker. If Batman hits me he will realize I'm not the real joker and his hit won't go through. I don't think Batman is informed of this, there might be more roles that have temporary or permanent protections against third party as well. As long as I am alive, Joker cannot die to ANYTHING sans lynch. He is invincible. However, if the real Joker is killed I no longer shapeshift and thus can not survive a Batman hit unless I still have my second night life. I hope that makes sense. I also return "Joker" to all DT checks as long as I'm shape shifted. Things are really tricky for Batman in this game, I'm not sure I love the balance. | ||
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On February 11 2012 20:55 Jayjay54 wrote: no. If I was batman, there is no way I'd claim DT and risk being RBed all fucking game long. Batman isn't fun if he is RBed If Palmar is batman and shot Radfield he's dead unless he's a vet meaning he isn't a DT. Unless I'm wrong and those roles (solomon grundy, etc...) survive in either form (vet/dt vet/vig, etc.) I'm not even sure there is a role that gets a choice between vet/dt. | ||
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On February 11 2012 20:59 Toadesstern wrote: LOL I did not know that about the DT. That's another important piece of the puzzle. Schworz why are you accusing joker to be mafia? Yeah, that's why I was hesitant to claim at first. Claim Clayface, mafia DT checks me says I'm the Joker and must be Hugo, etc. I figured I'd just deal with it if that happened. | ||
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