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On February 01 2012 07:58 slOosh wrote: I agree with you on the lurking. I do believe that Chocolate should speak up as we progress into lategame. There are so many things to talk about and really no reason to remain quiet as a town. Right now, being neutral on people's lists is something that warrants inspection.
However, these are things I don't like. You don't expound on your reasonings on SacredSystem - WHY does he look clean? And WHY do you think that Adam is strange on lack of info even though you say in the same post that he has content?
On that note I would like Chocolate to comment on his opinions. Day 3 and I'm still not too sure what you actually think. For instance, what do you think about Simbarto, SacredSystem and Zelblade? Please be clear in revealing your thoughts (e.g. I think this person is mafia because of this, and this other guy is town because of this etc.)
All right let's do this. Town Sloosh- Great analysis, very active, driving discussion DYH- Good analysis, active, claimed being hit w/ no counterclaim Bromancipate- Kind of on the edge, but has been posting a lot lately w/ good analysis and is driving discussion Cosmos- started zarepath lynch Adam- playing well, contributing Don't know... SS- very hostile attitude, confusing posts, omgus a lot BUT is active and seems to be trying to do analysis Zellblade- just generally shady, lurker like myself Mafia?? Simberto- Now that everyone has pointed out his inconsistencies he seems to me to be a mafia, or at least the best current candidate for a lynch.
If you want any clarification just ask. My don't know list is subject to change especially if others post a good analysis of one of them. If simberto was not a candidate for lynching i would be on SS just because he likes to omgus a lot.
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On February 01 2012 09:07 Adam4167 wrote:Posting lists is scummy prob, you should know that Seriously though, I feel like of those 5 names I am mentioning, the last 2 scum are in there. Chocolate looks bad. He spends all of day 1 soft defending zarepath, jumps on the zarepath vote quite late on day 2 (hes vote number 7 with 5 required to lynch), hes nigh on inactive and when he shows up he doesn't push any cases or reads. Zelblade is an interesting case. I know people hate it when this gets said, but flipping him would provide a wealth of info. He was also fairly late on the Zarepath vote on day 2, after trying to push my case on SacredSystem. Jury is still out here, Id probably keep him alive another day while we lynch someone else and gather more information. SacredSystem I eased up on a while ago. Hes another one who can stay around while we hang someone else. Bromancipate: All I really said for you was that your post-count was lacking, but you're busy, so I get that. That and jitsu never followed up on something he said. He did however cast suspicion onto balt11t at the end of night 1 when not many people were really focused on him, so ill look elsewhere for mafia for now. Simberto I've never called scum. I just said his postcount dropping off compared to day 1 was odd. Ill put some thoughts together on him soon. At this point, I'm interested in a Chocolate lynch, and ill make my mind up on Simberto sometime in the next few hours after i finish reading. It was 7 required to lynch -.- I think it's interesting that in less than 24 hours you have changed me from a null read to mafia, solely because I haven't posted much (although I have been posting). I'd also like you to show me when I soft defended zarepath.
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On February 01 2012 09:26 Adam4167 wrote:Says it right there at the bottom. + Show Spoiler +On January 30 2012 02:11 dreamflower wrote: Voting Count Update
SacredSystem - 2 Adam4167
zelblade zarepath
zelblade - 1 Simberto
zarepath - 6 DoYouHas CosmosXAM slOosh SacredSystem MidnightGladius zelblade
Non-Voters - 3 Bromancipate Chocolate balt11t
Voting ends at 03:00 GMT (+00:00) today.
Currently, the number of votes needed to lynch is: 5 out of 9.And since you asked: Show nested quote +On January 26 2012 04:53 Chocolate wrote: Still looking at zellblade & zarepath but we've seen them post and zare is pretty active, zellblade may just be making nooby mistakes but he has still posted oddly. and Show nested quote +On January 27 2012 11:07 Chocolate wrote: Zare has a moderately strong case against him but I think lynching an active player who seems a little suspicious is worse than lynching one who is more suspicious and posts less Good to know you're still reading the thread though. That was if those people never voted at all, once they had all voted it would've been 7. How does 5/12 even make sense? In the OP it says how they determine the # required and for 12 it is 7.
You could call that soft defending zarepath but honestly at the time I was more suspicious of the lurkers. Also those were during the first day when the evidence and case against zare was much less than those of cosmos, ss, zellblade, or fakepromise.
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Well I'm not sure if it's "new" but he has basically been tunnel visioning Zellblade since Day 1
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On February 01 2012 16:46 slOosh wrote:Ok. This is about Chocolate. Quick skim of his filter demonstrates that he has some experience with mafia and isn't a total newbie playing his first game. Show nested quote +On February 01 2012 08:34 Chocolate wrote: All right let's do this. Town Sloosh- Great analysis, very active, driving discussion DYH- Good analysis, active, claimed being hit w/ no counterclaim Bromancipate- Kind of on the edge, but has been posting a lot lately w/ good analysis and is driving discussion Cosmos- started zarepath lynch Adam- playing well, contributing Don't know... SS- very hostile attitude, confusing posts, omgus a lot BUT is active and seems to be trying to do analysis Zellblade- just generally shady, lurker like myself Mafia?? Simberto- Now that everyone has pointed out his inconsistencies he seems to me to be a mafia, or at least the best current candidate for a lynch.
There are nine players in the game. He puts five as town, two as null & one as mafia for a total of eight reads (plus himself makes nine). Remember that there are two mafia left (as if town would forget!) and look at his last line. He only considers Simberto as mafia after night 2 ends and people start openly suspecting Simberto. It is a very passive stance. Notice how he says it. He "seems". Then notice how he says that this is the best current candidate. Ok. So logically he is saying that Simberto, of whom he does not strongly believe is the mafia, is the best candidate in his mind. So I ask you guys, what is he thinking going into night 2 without any mafia reads???With this I am leaning much to a Simberto/Chocolate team that is bussing each other so that the other will stand a better chance. With Simberto on the chopping block he drops his thoughts on zelblade and points out Chocolate. This does mean that Sacred is town. Perhaps he is town suffering from serious tunnel vision. I don't like this but at least he has some thought (doesn't matter how well/poorly reasoned it may be). Chocolate, with the 0 reads night 2 is a mafia. It's not that I don't think there are two mafia left, of course there are. I just don't KNOW who the second one is. I also think the main reason that someone would suddenly be on simberto's case just after night ends would be if he had investigated him, which is good evidence on top of some of his posting.
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On February 02 2012 06:46 Simberto wrote: Ok, i will go to bed now. I hope i am still alive tomorrow, but if i am not, take a look at what i wrote before with the knowledge that i flipped green.
Also, i think that you need to be a bit more careful in your investigations, it seems to me that some here start an investigation with "he is guilty, how can i prove that?", instead of "is he mafia or town, what can i find out?", which is obviously a pretty bad way to go about things. Like I said before, I think we probably have some dts who have found peoples' alignments and want to persuade others of their position without actually mentioning that they are dt.
On February 01 2012 14:02 SacredSystem wrote: let me be clear right now my sole focus of suspicion is 100% on zelblade This doesn't really help because ultimately to guarantee a vote for today you will have to vote for either me or simberto. Of course this works if you want a nolynch
On February 01 2012 22:48 zelblade wrote: And wtf do you mean with the 2nd sentance? Are you saying that one of the people who quickly jumped onto simberto day 3 is the DT? (I am assuming that you are refering to a DT check when you say "investigated". Yes
And also Simberto has actually been focusing on zellblade for even longer than I thought before http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=305805¤tpage=5#99
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On February 02 2012 07:43 SacredSystem wrote: non voters and voters of choclate can you please switch your vote over to zelblade if the non voters switch over we can lynch zelblade, if the voters of chocolate switch over we would need 1 more of a lynch Maybe if you reiterated your points for why he should be lynched and show why he is the best candidate your case would be stronger. To me it just seems that you are tunnel visioning him and keep saying, "He defended zarepath, and is thus mafia"
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Going to bed for the night, can't post anymore. See you all tomorrow.
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On February 02 2012 18:26 Adam4167 wrote: I am ok with the 24/h day cycle.
Chocolate, why are you trying to out our DT? Is it because you realize youre dead tomorrow and you want to give your last teammate a half a chance to win? If they are getting 'guilty' checks back and then building a case from that, it is in your best interest to NOT say anything so he can continue doing his work.
Now that your only mafia suspect has flipped town, where do you suggest we go next? My vote will be heading your way as soon as the sun comes up. I am not trying to out the dt, I just thought there was a reasonable chance that a dt had checked simberto, which started the lynch. DT shouldnt say anything about his role, and I dont want him to yet. If I were mafia I wouldnt post in the thread to tell a teammate, I would just tell him.
I am ok with the 24h cycle since the weekend is coming up. I am most suspicious of SS still because he is tunnel visioning zellblade pretty hard. Then I would go after you if he flips red or zellblade if he flipped green.
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On February 03 2012 07:04 Adam4167 wrote:Show nested quote +On February 02 2012 21:39 Chocolate wrote: If I were mafia I wouldnt post in the thread to tell a teammate, I would just tell him.
A typical response and WIFOM. I say you were looking to rattle the DT into making himself more obvious, so you had confirmation of your shot. I ask you again, what possible motive could a townie have for even bringing it up? How does SS flipping red implicate me as mafia? Sloosh, what has changed your mind about chocolate between this post and this post? The analysis on Chocolate shows exactly why he is mafia. He has not been doing any work to further this town and he gives one line explanations as to why people are mafia and this is only after he is prodded. About the dt, I wasn't trying to make him expose himself but was trying to further simberto's case, because it did seem like he was being attacked by a dt due to the quick pressure after night.
SS flipping red doesn't implicate you as mafia because of your reactions but because you are my next in line after him in my mafia list, and I can't see him continually trying to bus his teammate. if he flipped green or blue, especially dt, I would be after zellblade in a heartbeat.
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Wow guys you played really well. Sloosh definitely mvp, I wish we had gone after you night 1 but we thought you would be healed.
I definitely sucked, I was afraid to post analysis because I was certain I would make a scumslip and I didn't know exactly what to look for.
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I actually had to go to bed haha.
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