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On December 14 2011 21:37 cascades wrote: When you call people out town, you are automatically correct?
Yes.
On December 14 2011 21:37 cascades wrote: BOTH ProfBadass and Radfield agreed he was a good lynch.
They're being dumb, possibly scum.
On December 14 2011 21:37 cascades wrote: Who do you and Deus think should have been in office then? ProfessorBadass was the only vet that was online. I don't think the people who voted in ProfBadass were at fault.
prplhz, even in the very unlikely chance he's scum, he's at least devoted himself this game to protect me and syllo and agree with us a ton, so in the tiny, tiny chance he's scum, he cannot do any damage because he's forced to agree with us.
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On December 14 2011 22:19 xsksc wrote: so I went with the person I believed to be scummier in this game.
From now on, you just do whatever we tell you to do.
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Radfield: yes we don't really get to complain, but we did consider him likely town and I would have preferred to lynch a more null lurker, even one not particularly likely to flip scum. These deadlines are incredibly euro unfriendly and you are barely even around at the same time we are. It's hard to push a lynch when the activity usually picks up only when we are already gone.
/syllogism
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Shut up syllo, you're soft.
Radfield, you know just as well as I do that pushing a lynch onto a townie that seems to be active is much more terrible than going after a lurker. Also, what's with the preference in one lurker over another? At least we gave explanations for that. Did you intentionally or accidentally ignore my point that he looked pretty town? Did you not agree with it? What was the reasoning for pushing his lynch over for example nisani?
/Palmar
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On December 14 2011 22:47 kitaman27 wrote: Nisani201 has been replaced by VisceraEyes
For the love of god.
If we have a vigilante, just shoot this guy. Please, please, please don't allow him to play.
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For the record Radfield, I've never claimed to be a particularly good scum hunter, let alone day 1, it's more that most players in the current pool aren't very good. Just saying because you make it sound like I've been bragging.
/syllogism
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@Radfield
On December 14 2011 11:17 Radfield wrote: Looking at evantrees filter I would be ok lynching him. Same with Spaackle, though he has made more posts, and still seems scummy, so I would lean Spaackle over evantrees.
On December 14 2011 11:55 Radfield wrote: Well, spackle should be getting lynched right now. That's certainly superior to Zentor and mildly better than nisani.
These are your only mentions of Spacckle, that aren't just agreeing with other people, telling town to lynch him, or linking to his filter. I guess you also said one of his analysis was "scummy" without elaborating further at some point during the day.
Do you really think that's a better case than this:
+ Show Spoiler +On December 14 2011 09:22 Arctocod wrote:So yeah, Syllo went to sleep like 2 hours ago, we came up with both the ideas of pressuring Sheth and DropBear during the day, but both players seemed to respond in a way that wasn't conclusively scum. I also think the case against MrZentor is kinda weak, as is the case against Zeks. Just little things like MrZentor's brutal honesty about "having to make 2 posts" and Zeks's willingness to aggressively attack people's skills. It doesn't prove that they're town, but it makes it less likely they're scum. We simply could not reach a conclusive case on anyone as scum today. So we're going with the next best thing, vote someone who doesn't look like he's town, and I don't believe will contribute to the game. I'm going to stick our vote for the day on Nisani201 Here's a link to his filter: ClickyThere are multiple reasons for him being the choice. First off, there is nothing in his filter that's distinctly town. There is nothing that makes me go "hmmm... that does like kinda town-like". That's always the first thing to look for. However, he is being kinda lurkery today, he's provided very little content of any value. He does seem to be less of a dick than he usually is as town, He seems to not have a strong opinion on whom to vote today as can be seen this post: Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 12:39 Nisani201 wrote: We could also lynch a lurker (such as TotallyNotTwoPeople). Again, I want more information. Lynching for information is a common misconception, we always attempt to lynch scum. Based on Nisani's history as town, he increases scum's chance of winning the game regardless of his alignment, he does stupid shit as town, and thus gets away with stupid shit as scum. I cannot conclusively prove he's scum, but I think he's by far the most viable lynch we have at the moment. ##Vote Nisani201
Do you honestly think that those two mentions of spaackle from your filter are enough to answer my question of why you chose Spaackle as the lynch target? I spent a considerable amount of time reading the thread. I mean, maybe in your world this is enough of an explanation for your actions, but I would like to see something more.
I'm going to give you this though, you did mention you agreed with this point:
On December 14 2011 11:45 ProfessorBadass wrote:@Radfield If you don't like risk consider this: Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 05:49 Spaackle wrote:Nisani201:+ Show Spoiler +On December 13 2011 10:53 Nisani201 wrote:Alright, I just caught up on the thread. Show nested quote +On December 13 2011 03:08 Spaackle wrote: For the lurkers in the thread, maybe a couple questions would get some activity:
1. What do you think of the No Pardon, No Exception rule?
2. Give your specific impressions of the campaigns so far, especially the major ones.
Remember, the more you get into the game you're playing, the more fun it is! :D 1. No Pardon should not be carried out until the very late game, where there's probably some weird scenario in which pardoning would be important. However I don't think we need to discuss that now because there are too many possibilities. 2. Radfield seems to be playing pro-town. Palmar is not taking his usual controversial stance that he normally seems to assume. This is not scummy (I even think he said somewhere that he was going to try out a new style) but at this point I trust Radfield a lot more. ##Vote: Radfield (for election) Nisani posts after lurking for quite some time and answers the questions I gave the lurkers. He gives some short answers and then doens't post anything for two hours. On December 13 2011 12:37 Nisani201 wrote: Zeks is a null-read for me. Yeah the scumslips are pretty stupid but in my experiences I've found that these easy D1 lynches don't go too well.
If there are no other candidates besides him then I will definitely vote him. Otherwise I will wait for more. Nisani says that he doesn't have a read on zeks yet, but decides to wait until more info comes up. On December 13 2011 12:39 Nisani201 wrote: We could also lynch a lurker (such as TotallyNotTwoPeople). Again, I want more information. Suggests lynching a lurker, and gives TNTP as an example. Nothing really suspicious stands out here. On December 13 2011 14:11 Nisani201 wrote: I just read Greymist's analysis on Jistu and I think he is much more viable lynch then Zeks.
Eiii, why are you voting MyZentor? You provided no reason other than a quote.
Somewhat off topic: after playing in XLVII, this is much more relaxing... so much better not having 100 players or whatever it was that game. Decides that Jitsu is better than Zeks based on GreYMisT' analysis, then questions Eiii about his vote. Read: Lurking TownNisani hasn't been posting much since the beginning, but what he has been posting has been fairly non-contradictory and he's done a bit of motive questioning. He just seems like a regular townie withour much to say. Two vastly contradicting opinions when the only thing that has changed is Town sentiment towards Nisani. I'm not a fan of lynching lurkers unless they've proven time and time again they're absolutely worthless players and they all look the damn same. Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 11:36 Spaackle wrote:IMHO, it feels kind of like ProfBA is trying to bandwagon me. While I admit that my posts have not been very town, I don't see where I'm giving people scumreads. On December 14 2011 11:29 ProfessorBadass wrote: Spaackle aside from Zentor who's your next favourite lynch? @ProfBA Probably for Refallen or Nisani mostly because they've been lurking and what they have posted has looked a bit scummy. Maybe evantrees, for the same reasoning.
But do you really think that changing his mind makes him scum?
Whatever, I'm not lynching you tomorrow, I just hate your current apathetic play.
/Palmar
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On December 14 2011 23:52 risk.nuke wrote: I voted speccles because a lynch on nisani wouldn't had given us any information at all and he is probably town. When I voted I just checked z-bot and it said 2 on speccles and 5 on nisani so I voted to ensure it was speecles instead of nisani because the flip would atleast give me a better read on radfield. I did not want to lynch either.
Why are you so bad now? You're somtimes good?
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On December 15 2011 00:08 GiygaS wrote: Arctocod, are you going to do anything with the info? Obviously every piece of information can prove useful in due time, we'll see
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I don't listen to many Jimi Hendrix songs, but when I do, I prefer Purple Haze.
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I approve of explaining with sledgehammers.
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Hello Eiii
prplhz pointed out your radical change of mind.
you should be receiving your gift soon enough. Please accept it, or the consequences for you will be... mortal.
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And you call me out for not reading the thread.
BAD RADFIELD!
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Yes, as requested, you aren't being helpful
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On December 15 2011 01:52 Palmar wrote: Almost there, maybe you'll get it on one more re-read
Bleh..
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Goddamnit Radfield
I need some of you to believably pretend to know what it is about and answer to this post so that whoever is the cause of the PM can reveal himself to me.
Syllo asked people to pretend they knew what the pm was about, so mafia couldn't pick out who sent the actual pm.
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On December 15 2011 02:31 MarserBlood wrote: Hey, I'm back from studying and am reading the thread now. I can't believe Arcto lost the elections. I think it must be Mafia play, because they are scared of him in office. It's a shame we lynched a blue townie too. What do we need to discuss at night? Or do we need to discuss anything at night? Because the only other mafiagame I've played, they said that towndiscussion during night only helps Mafia.
Hi, those people are morons.
treat night exactly the same as days.
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VE that was obviously palmar and I apologize on his behalf
/syllogism
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And I don't think VE is a good target tonight
/syllogism
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