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On December 06 2011 20:55 kingjames01 wrote: The bandwagon on Hier was formed out of convenience with manipulation from mafia. Don't pretend that there was an actual good reason to carry it out. Can you expand on this? I know you haven't been around lately, but if you have been reading the thread, you must know that a lot of people consider Palmar a good player and he was quite active. I notice you were not voting for Palmar and thus believe that he likely isn't mafia. Who would mafia rather want dead, hier or palmar? After answering that, reconcile it with your assertion that the wagon formed "out of convenience and manipulation from mafia". Can you point to anything specific in Hier's play that made you so sure that he would flip town? If you struggle answering these questions, what do you think your alignment is more likely to be, objectively speaking? | ||
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On December 07 2011 00:20 Palmar wrote: Why didn't he ask the rest then? I wanted him to shoot Drazerk, who I think is mafia. So do you think he has a scum role that is compelled to claim what he did? If not, how do you propose he explains his protections daily and the fact he is still alive? | ||
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On December 07 2011 00:59 Palmar wrote: I'll answer your question with two questions. a) Would you shoot him if you were mafia? b) How do you expect us to catch him lying about his protections? If he's scum, he already has all the information needed to misprotect every night, mafia can even leave someone who should be a "good" target alive and Drazerk can claim that protection. Even if Drazerk tells us who he's protecting right before day breaks it changes very little. The only roles that can in any way allow us to deduce anything about Drazerk's alignment are tracker and watcher. Not to mention I find the role very unconventional compared to other roles revealed this game (Town Jack, Town Floridian and two Vanilla Town) I would have to shoot him yes if he is truthful about his claim. What is the motivation for claiming? All he is doing is limiting their night kills because they always have to keep one reasonable night kill target alive and there is the risk that town outright forces him to protect certain players. | ||
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On December 07 2011 01:27 redFF wrote: yes syllo: that's not a normal game Is this a normal game and how is that relevant? There's also Insane mafia where Floridian aka Town Elder was a town role | ||
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I assume you don't believe drazerk's claim at all then either, because that most certainly is not a normal role. | ||
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On December 19 2011 06:18 xsksc wrote: Sorry town, I didn't put enough effort into proving that Annul and Toad were scum. I thought it was obvious but I guess I should have worked harder. There was nothing left to prove. Annul was repeatedly shown to be mafia, but this group of townies just refused to listen. If they can't recognize mafia in a situation like that, I don't think they ever will | ||
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On December 19 2011 07:25 wherebugsgo wrote: I disagree, but I'll touch on this in my analysis. It was actually very anti-town because he drew a medic protect n1 that should have been going to you, Palmar, or Radfield. Well yes that was bad, forgot about that. The medic shouldn't have protected him, but can't really fault him for that. | ||
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Sandroba does his compulsory bussing post with as little effort as possible and immediately convinces a townie e: well actually there was a funnier post but I don't want to be mean | ||
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