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Well fuck. That had to happen, didn't it. I know we saw it coming... However, does this mean our medics just happened to miss the biggest targets, or do we think mafia might have 3KP? We're kind of fucked here, though, aren't we.
On December 13 2011 13:00 kingjames01 wrote:Not long now until we see how well we did last night... It seems as though the mafia have been in control of our lynches. My suggestion is to start examining players who haven't been given a lot of attention. These include: - hyshes
- Risen
- Lenaia
- Jackal58
Good luck Town! =)
Since you posted this list, what are your thoughts on said players? I'm curious.
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So what I'm seeing here is that mafia has AT LEAST one roleblocker if not two. My last final is in just under an hour. I will be back after that. I'm going to ##vote annul for now as I really think that is best for us.
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Drazerk hasn't felt like scum to me. I'll admit, I did want to lynch him because LaL and all, but that isn't viable anymore. I'm voting annul because I saw the error of my ways the night before last and then everyone just had to go and lynch redff. Today, we need to lynch scum. Annul is scum. Lynch him.
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Also I'll be around a lot more. Semester is now over.
From me, you say? Because I find the likelihood of two town jacks unlikely with what I've seen flip. I'm pretty sure I mentioned that.
On December 10 2011 07:31 Lanaia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 07:15 vaderseven wrote: Let me be clear about the annul being for sure a jack in my eyes.
I stated something that SHOULD have received a certain reaction if he has the exact same role as mine. When I asked about he INSTANTLY said exactly what he should have said.
This verified that he knows the correct powers that the jack role has access to.
Does this mean he's town to you for sure, though? Are you 100% sure he's NOT a scum jack? Fuck. They were right. Sorry I was a goddamn idiot and didn't just vote him. This feels like the Harry Potter vs Voldemort thing all over again. Well, I guess what I'm doing tomorrow, then. Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 07:24 Toadesstern wrote: what if they got some bullshit like a one-time tracker or something like that. That'd be just useless for mafia wouldn't it? So? They don't HAVE to use it. Like they said, they really only can use two of the actions. Are you saying that everything always has a good use? We don't know everything that's in this game.
On December 10 2011 07:44 Lanaia wrote:Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 07:35 Drazerk wrote: Also have you guys noticed that both day vigi's have been told to consider / kill me but non of them have? yeah, I noticed that as well. What does it say about you, though, do you think? Show nested quote +On December 10 2011 07:39 Toadesstern wrote:On December 10 2011 07:31 Lanaia wrote:[...] On December 10 2011 07:24 Toadesstern wrote: what if they got some bullshit like a one-time tracker or something like that. That'd be just useless for mafia wouldn't it? So? They don't HAVE to use it. Like they said, they really only can use two of the actions. Are you saying that everything always has a good use? We don't know everything that's in this game. I'm just saying V7 obviously has more information on what is going on than I do. Also I think V7 is basicly confirmed right now. Therefore I'm trusting him with what he says, at least I think he's honest. If he truly thinks there's a good reason to not lynch annul because of what was said I'm saying we should take a look at other people first. I think his decision with a lot of information is better than my decision-makeing without information at all. Sometimes, though, like other people have said, they throw in identical or extremely similar roles. In Steamship, my role was very similar to a scum's role. Harry Potter and Voldemort were literally the same role with a different name. That's what I'm kind of basing my change of heart on here.
I've stated my reasoning before.
Annul, aside from Draz, who do you feel is scum (now that it's day again and people like Palmar are dead)?
On December 14 2011 06:16 Toadesstern wrote: would still like an explanation of what's going on but yeah if there's nothing more from V7 I'll vote annul. Oh and since noone mentioned or quoted it I'll just bring it up another time: Yesterday both medics were roleblocke so Mafa really has 2 Roleblockers being able to RB us both all day long ;( This kind of pisses me off, but it explains why draz was RB'd when he'd claimed medic (even though he claimed RB immune...).
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On December 14 2011 06:32 annul wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 06:24 Lanaia wrote: From me, you say? Because I find the likelihood of two town jacks unlikely with what I've seen flip. I'm pretty sure I mentioned that.
but "parity cop" and "floridian" and two normal medics and a TWO SHOT vig and who knows what else are all standard things for towns to have, right? the only thing you have against me is some analysis of what roles you think are given to each player in a closed setup game? shit this wagon is hella weak
Sorry, I was wrong about HP/Voldemort. I know it's weak. Sorry. I still don't like that you gave someone else your shot.
On December 14 2011 06:40 vaderseven wrote: Basically what has happened is annul is a mafia vig. He decided to shot someone to fake claim jack seeing how I shot someone and am a jack. From there he used vague words to describe night actions to confirm himself to me and I was way too trusting. The only thing wrong with this is he knew about mason before you claimed it.
On December 14 2011 06:51 Drazerk wrote: Mason is action 4 though...
What do you mean by this, though?
Annul, aside from Drazerk, who else would you be willing to lynch today?
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On December 14 2011 07:02 Mattchew wrote: vader can you please consider mason'ing me Ahahahahaha. Why do you want that?
On December 14 2011 07:04 Mattchew wrote: You couldn't say those 4 ablities? fuck I would have lynched Annul so much faster had I known that was it. All of those are town/scum neutral Something feels very off about this post. Why do those 4 abilities affect anything? What would make him supertown?
Vader, can I ask, did you do anything last night? I understand if that is out of line.
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On December 14 2011 07:16 Drazerk wrote: Mattchew is next after annul by the way
Well yeah. Part of me is considering the benefits of offing him first.
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On December 14 2011 07:17 annul wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 07:12 Lanaia wrote:On December 14 2011 07:02 Mattchew wrote: vader can you please consider mason'ing me Ahahahahaha. Why do you want that? i have a good idea why he would want that
Can I ask what you mean by that? If you don't want to reveal anything, I understand. I just don't see why he'd want to have mason powers with someone when he could just post everything in thread, right? Or do I really not understand the benefits of masondom?
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On December 14 2011 07:31 annul wrote:though read mattchew's filter lol he pushes palmar for a while and then instaflips onto me... then instaflips off of me and onto redff... then instantly ges back onto me... his main argument all the while is "annul claimed to be shot and no medic came out to claim he got saved" -- now we know 1. i did get shot and 2. medics did save me so what is HIS reason now for being on me? oh yeah "well annul is detracting from scumhunting and is 70% of the town debate" <--- not something i control! when asked about me or redff he says "They are both bad for town. That usually means they are scum correct? They both have provided nothing and annul has been distracting. I believe they are both scum" proven wrong once... will be proven wrong again if i flip. so really you have provided even less of a nothing than i have, because i have to act to save myself; you do not and you chose poorly. so i mean this is what you contribute: the drazerk defense: and lastly, something that encapsulates your play style this game in some perfect and pristine format... Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 02:48 Mattchew wrote: I am starting to believe that both Draz and Annul are town.
TWENTY EIGHT MINUTES LATERres ipsa loquitor.
This is why I think Matt is scum. That was an extremely quick change of heart. Well, it's part of why. I'd prefer lynching him over hyshes.
His last post makes me want to lynch him even harder. His reasons for voting this game remind me of last game when I was his scumbuddy.
However, we NEED to be consolidated today. We can't afford a nolynch, if my calculations are correct.
Where's Jackal? I want to see what he has to say about all this.
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On December 14 2011 08:30 TruthBringer wrote:Sorry, what is a VT? A vanilla townie, you know, like how everyone we lynched has been.
Mattchew, you seem to be assuming all our PRs have claimed. Do you think that is the case?
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On December 14 2011 08:31 kingjames01 wrote: Lanaia: Instead of just waiting until later to cast your vote against hyshes, why don't you do it now as a placeholder. Then if you find a compelling reason to change it, do so.
You say you don't want a nolynch but you want to vote for Mattchew? He has no votes on him right now.
He is the person I find scummiest. I've had him pegged as scum all goddamn. Aside from hyshes, who are your biggest scumreads, KJ?
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On December 14 2011 08:34 kingjames01 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 08:32 Lanaia wrote:On December 14 2011 08:31 kingjames01 wrote: Lanaia: Instead of just waiting until later to cast your vote against hyshes, why don't you do it now as a placeholder. Then if you find a compelling reason to change it, do so.
You say you don't want a nolynch but you want to vote for Mattchew? He has no votes on him right now.
He is the person I find scummiest. I've had him pegged as scum all goddamn. Aside from hyshes, who are your biggest scumreads, KJ? Based on what you're doing now... you're one of them.
Can I ask you to explain what you mean by that? What exactly am I doing to warrant you thinking I'm scum?
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On December 14 2011 08:42 Mattchew wrote:Show nested quote +On December 14 2011 08:31 Lanaia wrote:On December 14 2011 08:30 TruthBringer wrote:On December 14 2011 08:23 Drazerk wrote: I'm a VT TruthBringer... Sorry, what is a VT? A vanilla townie, you know, like how everyone we lynched has been. Mattchew, you seem to be assuming all our PRs have claimed. Do you think that is the case? Nope. Those are only what have been claimed. And I only included 1 JOAT because my point is there could VERY WELL be a scum JOAT making him not part of the town team
Personally, if you're going to assume one isn't, you'll have to possibly assume other roles aren't right.
We're also confirmed to have an RB but we don't know what side it's on.
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On December 14 2011 09:16 vaderseven wrote: I almost think we should mass claim at this point. There is so many claimed roles already and we need more info.
I agree. I'd like to see what Sandro has to say about it first.
On December 14 2011 09:25 Mattchew wrote: isn't everyone just gonna say VT?
No.... Some people might claim PRs. We don't know what scum has planned.
We'll see about the RBs later.
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Sorry guys, had some RL issues to attend to. I'm back, and I am not going to lynch V7 today as I've had a town read on him for ages.
I kind of wish none of the medics had ever claimed. Maybe then at least one of palmar/zeph would be alive.
On December 15 2011 08:18 Jackal58 wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 06:41 sandroba wrote: Man this thread depresses me greatly. We were supposed to have moved on from this day2. Ya I know. I'd much rather be lynching you today. Pretty much everybody I feel are solid scum in this game is voting for Annul. So you guys are either bussing him or he's town. May I ask who are your solid scumreads?
I think it's better to wait until after lynch before we focus on tomorrow. I'm not sure why, but it feels a bit more logical... Mattchew, why don't you answer your own question?
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Oh, but annul, there's no way we'd get mattchew lynched today, who is the only person on that list I'm willing to lynch.
I'm clearly town to you? The hell... I find that weird. Also, annul, why is toad scum when he protected you the night you were hit?
On December 15 2011 08:59 sandroba wrote: Fine, go ahead and lynch me, see if I care. You'd be doing me a favor. I really don't like that you're pretty much giving up. You were just suggested, no one's pressuring you...
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There's no way there will be enough votes to swing a sandro lynch, is there? I admit the /dance was kind of... strange in a way I don't really like.
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On December 15 2011 11:21 xsksc wrote:Show nested quote +On December 15 2011 11:18 bumatlarge wrote: 4/9, xsksc, truthbringer and vader (if he isn't scum) need to vote sandroba, or you will be lynched. I'm confused, what just happened with sandroba?
They appear to think he claimed scum. I'm a bit confused myself. I don't understand... How do we know this is a scumclaim?
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I don't think I want to switch simply because of how matt is acting. Fuck, why do you guys have to fuck with my brain after a hard day...
But I agree with xsksc. But I don't want to switch. jadhfkjsdhkjdfsh
I'm leaving in about 10 min and won't be back until after lynch. :/
I interpreted sandro's GG differently... I interpreted it as his being pleased with avenging palmar. But I guess VE's interpretation can be right...
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On December 15 2011 11:38 xsksc wrote: I want to do the logical thing, go with the evidence and lynch annul who I've had a scum read on for days. This is how I feel, completely.
Voting someone I'm unsure about is NOT claiming mafia, thank you very much. If you really think that makes me scum, awesome. Leaving now, not changing vote, be back in a couple hours.
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