Mattchew, this quote chain is mostly it.
I mean, it's obviously not every single possibility (he could technically be scum but I don't really think so right now).
Scum doesn't always kill PRs, you know....
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On December 10 2011 08:28 Drazerk wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2011 08:12 Lanaia wrote: On December 10 2011 07:57 Drazerk wrote: On December 10 2011 07:44 Lanaia wrote: On December 10 2011 07:35 Drazerk wrote: Also have you guys noticed that both day vigi's have been told to consider / kill me but non of them have? yeah, I noticed that as well. What does it say about you, though, do you think? I think scum are trying to keep me alive for some reason. For the WIFOM, do you think, so they can get a mislynch on you? Yes very easily Mattchew, this quote chain is mostly it. I mean, it's obviously not every single possibility (he could technically be scum but I don't really think so right now). Scum doesn't always kill PRs, you know.... | ||
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Mattchew, who are your top 6 scumreads at this point in time, given it's a new day. I'm curious to see. | ||
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On December 10 2011 22:41 hyshes wrote: I'm going to vote for annul as well. If he is town we should kill of the palmar club ( = everyone connected to palmar by claiming defending him or saying he is town), starting with palmar. ##vote annul No no no no no. I will not lynch Palmar as I believe Zeph's claim. On December 10 2011 23:20 Toadesstern wrote: Show nested quote + On December 10 2011 21:50 Drazerk wrote: for argument's sake and confirming both palmar / refallen. I protected sandroba last night so refallen has to be a medic. the fuck? Sandroba? I'm going to put this in caps to make sure you get what I'm talking about: SANDROBA? wtf was that supposed to do? It's not a question of 3 medics but a question of 2 medics. Our now claimed medic said he did not (!) protect annul n1, therefore we have to have 2 medics if annul's claim is right. Drazerks medic claim is still bullshit and there is no way his claim is viable. Why do you think that Drazerk's claim is bullshit? Why are you assuming that there are only two medics in the setup? It's technically possible there's a third out there. On December 11 2011 04:04 annul wrote: oh hey also palmar could be the godfather too. that would make sense to make him the GF after day 1 play. so zeph could be telling the truth and still palmar could be red. many ways to go from here. But we don't even know for sure that we have a godfather or that it's chosen, do we? (or is it an unwritten required rule on TL?) I'm voting annul. | ||
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On December 11 2011 04:57 Mattchew wrote: Show nested quote + On December 11 2011 04:48 Lanaia wrote: On December 10 2011 22:41 hyshes wrote: I'm going to vote for annul as well. If he is town we should kill of the palmar club ( = everyone connected to palmar by claiming defending him or saying he is town), starting with palmar. ##vote annul No no no no no. I will not lynch Palmar as I believe Zeph's claim. On December 10 2011 23:20 Toadesstern wrote: On December 10 2011 21:50 Drazerk wrote: for argument's sake and confirming both palmar / refallen. I protected sandroba last night so refallen has to be a medic. the fuck? Sandroba? I'm going to put this in caps to make sure you get what I'm talking about: SANDROBA? wtf was that supposed to do? It's not a question of 3 medics but a question of 2 medics. Our now claimed medic said he did not (!) protect annul n1, therefore we have to have 2 medics if annul's claim is right. Drazerks medic claim is still bullshit and there is no way his claim is viable. Why do you think that Drazerk's claim is bullshit? Why are you assuming that there are only two medics in the setup? It's technically possible there's a third out there. On December 11 2011 04:04 annul wrote: oh hey also palmar could be the godfather too. that would make sense to make him the GF after day 1 play. so zeph could be telling the truth and still palmar could be red. many ways to go from here. But we don't even know for sure that we have a godfather or that it's chosen, do we? (or is it an unwritten required rule on TL?) I'm voting annul. scumslip? Not even. We as in EVERYONE IN THE GAME. Not a scumslip. | ||
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On December 11 2011 11:18 Toadesstern wrote: Show nested quote + On December 11 2011 11:09 Drazerk wrote: On December 11 2011 11:07 Toadesstern wrote: The problem I got with drazerk is that he's not a medic and with saying "npnp, I will protect our medic next night" he is risking the life of our medic because if annul is not lieing, we got a 2nd medic and if that guy is not protecting refallen because draz said he would do so himself we lose our medic because of draz. I mean the guy is a liar, no doubt about that but he's now starting to jeopardize blues with his lies. But we don't have three medics. Because Annul is lying. Show nested quote + On December 11 2011 11:09 Drazerk wrote: On December 11 2011 11:07 Toadesstern wrote: The problem I got with drazerk is that he's not a medic and with saying "npnp, I will protect our medic next night" he is risking the life of our medic because if annul is not lieing, we got a 2nd medic and if that guy is not protecting refallen because draz said he would do so himself we lose our medic because of draz. I mean the guy is a liar, no doubt about that but he's now starting to jeopardize blues with his lies. But we don't have three medics. Because Annul is lying. For Christs sake he's not. I AM the medic that protected him n1. I even explained/breadcrumbed it : Click me! I don't know what you think about annul but he was never lying about being hit. I got a msg as well. That is the reason I'm not believing a word Drazerk is claiming. He did claim RB-immune-Medic and I'm a fucking normal medic. What point is there in makeing several medic-variations in this game? Incog trolling? I don't think so. That's why I wanted to know if V7 got shot because that would have proven we got a 2nd medic and that's why I risked letting V7 die n1 because if he died that night it would have been a prove for Drazerk to be mafia. Sadly mafia probably realized this as well after rad told drazerk to protect V7 (clickedyclick ). YOU ARE NOT A MEDIC So far this guy was a liar, that's why I always pushed him but obviously noone else knew it. Now he starts jeopardizing our blues. He did so with V7 n1 when he said "yeah np I'm going to protect him" and now he's doing it with Refallen. The only reason V7 did not die n1 was because of what I linked a little bit above (rad tellimg him he'll get lynched if V7 dies). Why would mafia not kill V7 if rad (who we know is a green) even promised to lynch Drazerk if he really is green? Mafia would have LOVED to get a townie lynch and they knew that Drazerk would be dead if they killed V7. I had a feeling it was you, toad. Doesn't necessarily stop annul from being mafia, though... ... Are you kidding me? DRAZERK WHAT THE HECK. I don't even understand... I have no words for it. I kind of wish I were a total jerkface so I could yell at you. I don't see why you felt the need to lie as town (given you actually are)... My LaL instincts are tingling, but part of me still thinks that a double role feels off when it's not as common as say, medic. What are the exact numbers we'd need to consider the game lylo? | ||
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On December 12 2011 04:39 Mattchew wrote: This game is a clusterfuck ... town shouldn't lie so this is dumb. we need to get rid of annul and draz (and of course my favorite redFF). Can we please come to a decision on who to lynch tonight So you think all three of those people are scum? Who are the other three, given you have an idea? Where has our friend Jackal gone? And Risen? And whoever the other person is who hasn't voted, kingjames, I think... On December 12 2011 04:50 vaderseven wrote: I agree that there was too much town lieing in this game so far. Its made the mafia's job WAY too easy. It's actually almost extremely annoying. To the rest of town who hasn't yet lied, please don't unless you have to. My scumreads at this moment in time are: annul, mattchew, eran/bum, corrupt/whoeverhisnameis, and I'm not sure who the last two could be. Corrupt/xcsxs or whatever is mostly because of the case from Zeph, but I had an idea of it beforehand. How many votes do we need to lynch a person right now? Is it 10? | ||
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However, PEOPLE WHO HAVEN'T VOTED YET SHOULD VOTE... we don't want any modkills, do we? No, we don't. That's what I'm most worried about right now. kingjames, are you assuming Zeph and Refallen are both scum as well in that example? And because it seems like you missed/ignored this post... On December 12 2011 09:18 annul wrote: so KJ is there like a conclusion coming from this or did you just decide to recap the game I'm curious as well... If I've missed something, I'm sorry. | ||
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On December 12 2011 11:03 Mattchew wrote: redFF, VE and Kingjames you better have damn good reasons for not voting annul right now. If they don't think he's scum, why should they vote him? I'd say it's a pretty damn good reason to NOT vote him. Mattchew, do you think annul is scum? It feels like the only reason you think he's scum is because he claimed to be hit n1, which has been confirmed. That's literally the only reason I see in your filter for you yelling about annul being scum. How do you feel about the medic who claimed protecting annul? I haven't seen you mention that so I'm curious. Does it change your opinion You only voted annul because you didn't think red would be lynched. As soon as it looked like it, you switched. Why? Why not just be on the person you think is most scum the whole time? I'd really like to know that. I think I'm starting to agree with annul in regards to drazerk, though. I know LaL isn't always the best, but it's kind of always been something I agree with. Now that I look back on it, draz's claim was kind of insane. | ||
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On December 12 2011 11:41 Mattchew wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2011 11:38 Lanaia wrote: On December 12 2011 11:03 Mattchew wrote: redFF, VE and Kingjames you better have damn good reasons for not voting annul right now. If they don't think he's scum, why should they vote him? I'd say it's a pretty damn good reason to NOT vote him. Mattchew, do you think annul is scum? It feels like the only reason you think he's scum is because he claimed to be hit n1, which has been confirmed. That's literally the only reason I see in your filter for you yelling about annul being scum. How do you feel about the medic who claimed protecting annul? I haven't seen you mention that so I'm curious. Does it change your opinion You only voted annul because you didn't think red would be lynched. As soon as it looked like it, you switched. Why? Why not just be on the person you think is most scum the whole time? I'd really like to know that. I think I'm starting to agree with annul in regards to drazerk, though. I know LaL isn't always the best, but it's kind of always been something I agree with. Now that I look back on it, draz's claim was kind of insane. I think that annul is scummy and a leach on town. He takes a ton away from scum hunting and causes repetitive and circular conversation that leads to nowhere. He's literally 70% of the last 2 days of discussion. Lynching him and redFF would just lead us to work towards new scum. I have said for a while that redFF is scum to me. What if they were to both flip town? How would you feel, having advocated a double-lynch? WHY do you think annul is scummy? How do you FEEL about the medic claiming to have saved him? Is something wrong with someone being a huge part of the discussion? Would you prefer he lurks? You don't have that many fewer pages than he does. (I can't make that last statement grammatically sound :/) .... Why do you bother quoting someone only to say lol. How is THAT productive? | ||
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It's 7 PST right now. "Time Cycle: 48/24, Deadline at 8PM PST" from the OP I think sandroba's safe, but we'll have to see, I guess... | ||
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On December 12 2011 12:04 kingjames01 wrote: Mattchew: think about this for a minute. There are 6 mafia members and 13 Town remaining. Propose a reasonable mafia-oriented plan in which both annul and redFF are lynch candidates and there's relatively little talk about ANYONE else. Wait, what? Don't we have another hour??? This, this, a thousand times this. It's illogical. If they're both mafia... What the fuck is the mafia letting happen? On December 12 2011 12:05 sandroba wrote: Sorry I'm not caught up. Why are people voting redFF? They think he's scum. That's really all I've gotten out of it. His one-liners, which I've seen him do a lot as town, is a large part of it, it seems. But I'm late it appears and they've linked you to it. It also appears that you and I feel the same in regards to his play. On December 12 2011 12:10 Mattchew wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2011 12:04 kingjames01 wrote: Mattchew: think about this for a minute. There are 6 mafia members and 13 Town remaining. Propose a reasonable mafia-oriented plan in which both annul and redFF are lynch candidates and there's relatively little talk about ANYONE else. Wait, what? Don't we have another hour??? It makes me believe that 1 of them is not mafia and that they are hiding their votes somewhere meaning 1 is def mafia, which we need to get atleast 1 kill today to stay in this game i think Mattchew, I don't understand you. Can you try to rephrase this please? I really want to understand what you're saying when you called both of them scum not that long ago... | ||
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Zeph, why are you confident of it? There is no way both would be scum. There is no way we're getting a double lynch. Red and VE don't appear to be around, which is good, and the people on red are unlikely to switch anyways.. Why would all 6 mafia be on the same target? To me, it feels pretty unlikely. I don't see why they'd put all of themselves in danger for a single lynch. I'd prefer to lynch scum and not town. On December 12 2011 12:30 Zephirdd wrote: I said this before. You can't hunt scum based purely on votes; a smart scum team is most likely splitting their votes and killing itself in order to gain credibility. Why do you have to be so much more eloquent than me? | ||
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On December 12 2011 12:52 Zephirdd wrote: Show nested quote + On December 12 2011 12:48 kingjames01 wrote: On December 12 2011 12:31 Lanaia wrote: Why do you have to be so much more eloquent than me? Maybe they have better a better curriculum than us in Brazil... =) I believe it's easier to be "eloquent" when you are speaking on a secondary language I'm confident because of the reactions of people lately. Namely Lanaia and sandroba going for annul over redFF and KJ1 waiting until the very last moment to overlap vote on redFF and Mattchew's desire for that double lynch. Not that these are scum tells or anything, but to be honest when were my guts right? Mattchew on XLVII? meh. Gotcha. Why do you say "meh" after talking about mattchew, may I ask? On December 12 2011 12:50 annul wrote: 1st period soccer 2nd period soccer 3rd period soccer 4th period soccer lunch 5th period partying skills 6th period partying skills 7th period large butt management 8th period soccer while partying and managing large butts then they go home and play soccer, party, and have large butts This made me laugh far too hard for my own good. | ||
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I used to be constantly wrong about red and always thought he was scum (this carried on to other forums and to IRC). Meta actually CAN be helpful. I learned from it. You'll learn from it too. And yeah, Palmar's gonna be pissed. | ||
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What I really don't understand is why people thought the case on red was so good. It's not the same as the case on annul as someone said. There are also more separate reasons from various people as to why they wanted to lynch annul, from what I saw. Anyhow, a question... Palmar, if someone were to inspect annul and have him show the same alignment as you, would you still tunnel? | ||
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On December 13 2011 03:55 hyshes wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 03:43 Mattchew wrote: Palmar, since I want to listen to you, if you had a vig shot and knew annul would be lynched tomorrow 100% who would you shoot, if you were a jailor who would you jail, and if you were a cop who would you check? I would ask medic but I don't want scum to know that answer, the others I don't believe will help scum that much unless they have a framer and medic right? With these kind of questions, i want to lynch mattchew 100% I very much agree with you. mattchew, if you want to listen to Palmar so much, why didn't you listen to him yesterday? And with that, I'm off to my exam. | ||
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Honestly, I am actually terrified at being told it's damn near lylo right now if we're not careful. Ughhhhhh. I have no idea what to say except we really should not have lynched red. | ||
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On December 13 2011 08:22 xsksc wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 08:19 Lanaia wrote: I'm here til whenever father comes to pick me up for dinner. Honestly, I am actually terrified at being told it's damn near lylo right now if we're not careful. Ughhhhhh. I have no idea what to say except we really should not have lynched red. no shit?:D But so many people wanted to and I really don't fully understand WHY. | ||
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On December 13 2011 10:49 bumatlarge wrote: Show nested quote + On December 13 2011 10:47 annul wrote: On December 13 2011 10:36 bumatlarge wrote: Please vote Annul, or please shoot me. wifom bait You see it isn't WIFOM, because either option works for me Bummmmm why do you want to die | ||
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On December 13 2011 10:50 Refallen wrote: I don't know what to say. I think the best course of option is for Zeph to alignment check annul and we can go from there. Jeez, we're doing really bad as town. Well yeah. But we also don't know what other roles are around, right, so that technically could fuck everything up for all we know. I really wish it wasn't two hours until morning. I wish it were sooner. | ||
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