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Thing is, he's throwing around one-liners. Drazerk generally at least tries to look town when he's town, but maybe this is the latest development in town play, a lot of players (myself, for example) get a bit cocky once they're over their newbie phase.
However, we know Drazerk isn't dumb. The only attack he's actually made in the game is against a newbie, which is a safe attack (attacking a veteran as scum is risky, cause they will call you out), and he wasn't completely convinced by my case on chaoser.
I haven't seen such an easy day 1 lynch in a long time, probably since I gave myself away in XLV by incorrectly quoting a pm.
the chaoser lynch is only sensible.
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On November 17 2011 00:53 Nisani201 wrote: OK, one bullshit case is bad enough. But two?
Enough with the FoS. Forumite is scum.
##Vote: Forumite
Which case is bullshit mr. Nisani201?
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Sorry, I missed it WBG
I came to the same conclusion about chaoser as you, for different reasons. Which is always good because it tells us that he's setting off alarm bells for multiple people in multiple ways. I actually just went back and read your case, and I see now that you picked out the same post as I did.
About bumatlarge, I don't like the fact that he doubts chaoser is scum, there is enough evidence on the table to hang chaoser. No matter what chaoser is, he's not vanilla town, which is what he claimed. I do like his vote on Nisani201 though, but nisani is sadly brilliant at getting lynched as town.
I guess I would have to re-read him more to form a conclusion. I would say that I simply don't have a good read on bum yet.
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On November 17 2011 01:54 Drazerk wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 00:54 Palmar wrote: Drazerk generally at least tries to look town when he's town Erm wait a second... XL - Only reason I didn't get lynched was because I spammed the thread with martyr posts SNMM4 - Read above but a lot worse WaW2 - LOL AA - Bad tunnel at wiggles proceeding by telling the SK that I am the medic proceeded to acting retarded Ressurection - Lurk day 1 - shot day 1 - resed by scum and everyone realizes it because I was looking so scummy XL3 - Active lurked into acting scummy to get the whole scum team in a single post LOTR - Saved the scum from a vigilante, proceeded to defend his third party claim, ROLE CLAIMED MEDIC TO SAVE SCUM, and proceeding to get role blocked / shot while spreading confusion through out the day. Hell If scum had kept me alive I would of protected Kita and let them win. Not sure what Drazerk your talking about to be honest because it's not me
Are you actually defending yourself by claiming bad?
How does that benefit town?
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On November 17 2011 02:30 Zephirdd wrote:Show nested quote +On November 15 2011 23:10 Zephirdd wrote: I'll unvote him should he provide anything useful. I guess I should be fair and say that my votes will be volatile since we can vote/unvote as much as we want.
I'll do as I said. ##Unvote: Palmar(on an unrelated note, is it okay to quote votes? For example, the host said we shouldn't vote and unvote the same person in a post, but what about quoting the vote?) Also, as I said, I agree with lynching lurkers. We shouldn't go apeshit over them, but at least one lurker should go. That said, ##Vote: KenpachiPalmar was my lurker of choice, but he already provided lots of useful discussion; Kenpachi's turn atm.
You need to drop the lurker shenanigans and start being useful.
First mission: Vote chaoser.
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On November 17 2011 03:36 Nisani201 wrote: Can we get a votecount?
you need to vote chaoser.
It is pretty clear that he's guilty.
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On November 17 2011 06:15 Nisani201 wrote: How experienced is chaoser? Has anyone played a game with him?
chaoser is a top 5 player in this game.
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Also, Zona, if they're both scum you should probably re-roll the game, sadly.
##Vote Lanaia ##Vote Kenpachi
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We're lynching Lanaia no matter what. What she did is extremely poor play on day 1. If you're gonna do something like that, why not take it up with town? You must've known the anti-vote would show up anyway, so you're basically outed as soon as yo use it.
Basically, that play is so bad for town that I see no reason to not lynch her.
As for Kenpachi, well, his sole defense i "town is bad" which is well... fair. But remember, if you are the one who doesn't manage to argue your way out of lynch, both as town and scum, you are actually the worst person of all those bads you're complaining about.
Without exception, the player who gets lynched day 1 is the worst player in the game.
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On November 17 2011 07:50 ZBot wrote: Heh...you had 2 spaces in between "Vote:" and "Kenpachi" and my inflexible dumb program expects only 1.
Lemme make it more flexible.
Regular expressions! ♥
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I don't think Kenpachi will be missed anyway, he's completely useless as either side.
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I always play like that... my biggest weakness as a town player is telling the difference between terrible townies and scum.
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I forgot Drazerk, will do now
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How is that relevant chaoser, I don't want to lynch you because you're outspoken, I want to lynch you because you're playing anti-town, you lied about your role-claim and you're making bad calls.
I think I am being fairly outspoken, I'm just playing pro-town, and thus no one wants to lynch me.
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it's pretty clear we're killing chaoser, lanaia and kenpachi today. Feel free to discuss other lynches, but I think a triple lynch is more than enough on day1.
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On November 17 2011 09:30 Lanaia wrote: I really don't think we need to kill three people on the first day. YES, I SCREWED UP...
But we already have one person dead because of something I did.
We really should not be lynching three people on the first day, or at least WE SHOULD MAKE ONE OF THOSE PEOPLE ONE OF THE PEOPLE WHO HAVE SAID VERY LITTLE SO FAR.
Wouldn't it be a pity if kenpachi, chaoser and I are all town? I know I'm town, kenpachi's actions since he've died feel town, and chaoser does not feel as scummy as some other people do. Do we really want to lose three town on a first day lynch?
I just looked through the OPs and I'm having trouble finding something. Is this like other TL mafia games in which mafia has more than one KP or is this like games I'm used to on MS where mafia only has one KP?
you're the one that needs to die, kenpachi wasn't a must, but getting rid of him is fine anyway.
and chaoser is scum, so we need to kill him.
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On November 17 2011 09:38 chaoser wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 09:32 Lemonwalrus wrote: I've already said that I thought you were town, and I still do. I'm not FoSing you, I just want to start up a dialogue on two vets that are known for being high volume posters but have been quiet thus far.
I'm not sure about Coagulation at this point...this is unlike him but I don't know if I want to jump to the conclusion he is scummy. Sorry then, I'm extremely PO-ed that kenpachi actually got lynched. for me right now, coag and bum are pretty much equal in terms of my suspicions. Bum posted 4 times, coag posted a grand total of once where he advocates a policy lynch on Kenpachi. But I expect a lot more from bum which is why I voted for him first when thinking about the "vets" in this game. Personally I think most of the mafia team is staying as far away from this kenpachi/lanaia/chaoser bullshit as possible. They wouldn't touch it with a ten inch pole. I'm just annoyed that the town is using the shittiest logic to try to lynch people.
I know you lied when you claimed.
You are not vanilla town, that is not a possibility. If you were a blue, you'd probably have claimed by now, that leaves scum.
@Lanaia: You have to die because you did something that's ridiculously anti-town. Sure, it may have been a mistake, but the only way to play this game is to kill off people who are playing against town. You're not a newbie, you know that if you didn't want Kenpachi lynched, then the proper way to go about is to just tell town he shouldn't be lynched. When you threw your anti-vote he only had like 5 votes on him, so he needed to almost triple that to actually get lynched. I'm pretty sure he wasn't on his way of getting lynched.
I mean, it's a bitch, sometimes people fuck up, but there is also a strong possibility you didn't fuck up, and this was intentionally sabotaging town.
Also, holy shit it really fucking bothers me that you guys dare complain about bad towns. Why am I not getting lynched? Why is WBG or Bum or Coag not getting lynched? It's got nothing to do with town, it's got everything to do with your own play. Man up and own your mistakes. We all fuck up.
The worst player is the player that gets lynched day 1.
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On November 17 2011 10:02 Lemonwalrus wrote:Show nested quote +On November 17 2011 10:00 sinani206 wrote:On November 17 2011 09:59 chaoser wrote:##Vote: Palmar He has been pushing a moronic case against chaoser since the beginning and most of you are eating it up. When the Lanaia/kenpachi thing came up, he threw his vote their way haphazardly, my guess because they are both town (although I still have some hope that KP was scum) and he just wants to make more town lynches day 1. All the while he has been pushing this chaoser lynch as a sure thing. If we lynch chaoser and he flips green or blue, I want palmar dead the next day for sure. He wants chaoser dead because as he said himself chaoser is a good player for town. He has built a case against him on LAL so he can hide behind policy when he is proven wrong about chaoser when chaoser flips. His entire case on me is literally built on the fact that I somehow "Lied" when I clearly did not. That's the one fact he keeps bringing up over and over again. What a joke. Your not getting voted because of LaL, it's because you're scummy. Go back and read Palmar's campaign to get chaoser lynched. It was built around LAL and him 'not playing like he usually does' as if everyone has exactly one method of playing mafia. If we lynch both chaoser and kenpachi day 1 and they both flip green i'm going to....well I'll just be upset.
Note for later: If I happen to be wrong about chaoser and lanaia, Lemonwalrus started building a case for lynching me tomorrow very early, there is no need to state already that you want me dead based on how they flip, you could just as well say that tomorrow. Lemon's vote on me, more than anything else, is making me rethink my position. I wonder if he knows something I don't.
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On November 17 2011 10:02 Nisani201 wrote: Palmar needs to get lynched. His case against chaoser is stupid, and he has barely been doing anything throughout this game. His vote on Lanaia is also scummy.
##Vote: Palmar
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