How exactly do you figure Chaoser would have voted Prplhz?
He barely even mentions him in the filter linked here.
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How exactly do you figure Chaoser would have voted Prplhz? He barely even mentions him in the filter linked here. FoS Wherebugsgo | ||
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On November 24 2011 11:22 bumatlarge wrote: Show nested quote + On November 23 2011 17:15 RebirthOfLeGenD wrote: I think the most important thing you have to ask yourself now in deciding if you think this strategy is good is why do these 5 seem to have no problem voting so much on lynch candidates? In a majority lynch setting its obvious, you vote because you want them to die, and unless they seriously think each one of those 3 were really scum why else would they vote? Seems silly, the obvious answer is that they want them to die because the more dead townies there are the better it helps their win condition. In a majority lynch game they HAVE to reach the number of votes to get a kill, meaning in this set up a vote list is even more powerful of an analytical tool then anything else we have. I have used votelists to catch scum in the past before and it is a very very good indicator. If you look at Arkham Asylum mafia Lucidity played a really really tight game from posting, I couldn't 100% put him as scum. He flew under really well. But as someone who made semi good intelligent posts he ALWAYS ended up on the wrong side of every lynch. When he was the only person to fuck up so bad the answer was simple, he was scum trying to save his own. I don't really buy that this is how you plan on winning the game. I can understand it as a place to start in a multi-lynch format, but there needs to be a step two to this. That said, I can't really say why it isn't a good plan. ##Vote: Lanaia ##Vote: GreYMisT ##Vote: Forumite ##Vote: Nisani201 ##Vote: Zephirdd It might be a misread but I REALLY don't see cyber_cheese being scum. I've been reading his day 1 posts, and no one gave me such a town vibe as he did. I think the step two I mentioned is actually analyzing the players here. Here's my problem with it. There are 5 living scum. You have 7 votes down. RoL has convinced you to place votes on townies. There are hazards in store for a town that uses degenerate strategies, and we don't know what they are. Therefore, it would be scum agenda to push a plan that essentially degenerates the game away from analysis of individuals. | ||
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On November 25 2011 05:14 MrZentor wrote: Show nested quote + No, you don't. Now, I would like you to write a big post on the current situation of the game. Additionally, I would like you to either retract or confirm chaoser's claim that you are vanilla town. I think we need to kill a mafia badly and I am mostly if not entirely partially vanilla town. So let me get this straight. You decide to show up, and instead of providing an opinion on anyone in the game, anything to go off and try to get a read of you, you decide to hint at not being a vanilla townie? What do you think of: The people Nisani voted? Coagulation? The 7 people that RoL narrowed it down to? The 5 people that WBG had on his second set of lists? Do you have any other reads? | ||
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On November 25 2011 07:27 Palmar wrote: ##Vote Cyber_Cheese ##Vote Lanaia At this point I'm just voting people who have done inexcusably stupid stuff. Oh well if that's an acceptable reason ##Votealmar At this point I don't actually think Palmar is scum, but his willingness to kill off potential townies is concerning. | ||
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On November 25 2011 07:31 Palmar wrote: What stupid stuff have I done? Did I somehow convince myself that checking my townread on day one as tracker was a good idea, which would potentially tell me nothing? Like just imagine if Tyrran happened to be a cop, and investigated LSB or me night one, and then mafia hits us too... You would have had basically a guilty check on someone who is likely town? Don't you think that's a bit retarded? Are you really that dumb? Or are you just scum. Your scenario works with any person in the game. On November 25 2011 07:45 Forumite wrote: I dislike insulting morons more than Town morons. Behave! I don´t care if Nisani is irritating, you just got him lynched. The least you can do is respond to his accusations in a civil manner. ##Vote: PaImar What do we do now? Coag, MrZentor and Zephirrd are popular lynch targets. I can´t belive all of them are scum, and we´ve lynched too many times for mistakes and behavior. What do we do? We desperately need a scumflip in order to find the other scum. I second that notion, although I don't think it's a valid reason to vote, especially since Nisani might flip scum yet. I still think MrZentor is the best lynch. Chaoser looked scummy, and instead of alleviating that, MrZentor chooses to lurk and talk more about his own role than the other players. | ||
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On November 25 2011 08:00 Tyrran wrote: ##Vote: Cyber_cheeze ##Vote: Forumite Cyber_cheeze: You visiting me still makes more sense as scum than as blue. Forumite : Your reasoning for saving Nisani makes no sense. I feel like you're a scum trying to look good. Also, see WBG post Plus you both voted for palmar who is clearly the best town around here. How more scummy can you be ? I specifically didn't bold the vote so it wouldn't count... I even left out the space so a smiley would pop-up, and you didn't work that out? | ||
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On November 25 2011 18:19 Palmar wrote: Lynch me please ##Vote Palmar I have no interest in playing with people who don't want to try. I am sorry for signing up for this game. Following you blindly would be much closer to not trying. | ||
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On November 25 2011 20:28 Forumite wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2011 20:26 xsksc wrote: On November 25 2011 20:22 Palmar wrote: On November 25 2011 20:14 xsksc wrote: I have a 100% sure reason to believe Palmar is town, it's not just a guess. rofl, look at that. It's to do with my role. I don't want to claim yet unless I have to. What's so funny about that? Palmar thinks it´s funny that a blue claimed to save him. I don´t trust a claim until it´s a real claim. I don´t care about your role and full powers, but I want to know what night action make you 100% sure that Palmar is Town? Short of knowing the scum teams powers, I don't think that's possible... | ||
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On November 25 2011 21:33 Palmar wrote: I still wanna kill palmar, this time for painting the records cop thing in his post blue. I find that extremely scummy. FTFY | ||
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On November 25 2011 21:35 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2011 21:34 Cyber_Cheese wrote: On November 25 2011 21:33 Palmar wrote: I still wanna kill palmar, this time for painting the records cop thing in his post blue. I find that extremely scummy. FTFY ! Claim, bitch. In full. If you actually considered that a good reason to still want to kill Forumite, your play is worse than most of town. I claimed in full. I left breadcrumbs by specifically using the word track where I could day 1/night 1, and after Prplhz questioned me about Tyrran. | ||
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On November 25 2011 23:30 Palmar wrote: Show nested quote + On November 25 2011 22:07 Palmar wrote: On November 25 2011 21:43 Cyber_Cheese wrote: On November 25 2011 21:35 Palmar wrote: On November 25 2011 21:34 Cyber_Cheese wrote: On November 25 2011 21:33 Palmar wrote: I still wanna kill palmar, this time for painting the records cop thing in his post blue. I find that extremely scummy. FTFY ! Claim, bitch. In full. If you actually considered that a good reason to still want to kill Forumite, your play is worse than most of town. I claimed in full. I left breadcrumbs by specifically using the word track where I could day 1/night 1, and after Prplhz questioned me about Tyrran. Show me those breadcrumbs. Tell me the name of your role. Are you still reading through your posts trying to figure out what you can pass off as breadcrumbs? Or are you trying to decide what role-name you should claim? Some of us have work... Town Obsessive Stalker If you want to see the breadcrumbs, go to my filter and crtl-f track, I used it about 5 times usually saying something like 'If I'm keeping track correctly...' to make it fit in. And this reply to Prplhz- http://www.teamliquid.net/forum/viewmessage.php?topic_id=282366¤tpage=72#1435 | ||
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On November 26 2011 09:34 xsksc wrote: I'm guessing everyone's happy with 3 lynches today, there's only a couple of hours until the deadline. Who are we still waiting on to claim? DCLXVI is the only one who hinted at a power role and hasn't claimed if I'm not mistaken. | ||
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On November 26 2011 09:51 Cyber_Cheese wrote: Show nested quote + On November 26 2011 09:34 xsksc wrote: I'm guessing everyone's happy with 3 lynches today, there's only a couple of hours until the deadline. Who are we still waiting on to claim? DCLXVI is the only one who hinted at a power role and hasn't claimed if I'm not mistaken. Oh wait, MrZentor did too, but he's getting lynched so it doesn't matter. | ||
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On November 26 2011 11:07 xsksc wrote: Wait a sec, didn't Cyber_cheese claim town tracker? Yes On November 26 2011 11:10 wherebugsgo wrote: aww man I liked the DT better. Oh well. He did. He's a liar. Let's kill him tomorrow. Zephirdd and Sabin should also die tomorrow. It wasn't a lie. On November 26 2011 11:24 xsksc wrote: Show nested quote + On November 26 2011 11:12 GreYMisT wrote: On November 26 2011 11:07 xsksc wrote: Wait a sec, didn't Cyber_cheese claim town tracker? why so he did. He called it something different though, "town obsessive stalker" I think he has some sort of mafia tracker role. Show nested quote + On November 26 2011 11:03 Zona wrote: Town Tracker You were obsessed with a certain actor during your childhood, and ended up stalking this person whenever you could. Kibibit's role sounds a lot like obsessive stalker, no? I'm guessing Cyber got a similar role pm, but as scum. His night 1 visit would make a LOT more sense if he is. I could totally be wrong here, I'm extremely tired. I'll give him a proper look tomorow morning. Suffice it to say that the only things our role PM's had in common were town in the name and the tracker ability. On November 26 2011 11:27 wherebugsgo wrote: yep! There's only 6 players who didn't vote Coag. One of them is hyshes, who is confirmed town. Another one is Lanaia, who voted Sabin. A third is xsksc, who claimed a doctor role, This means the scumteam is most likely to be GreYMisT, Sabin010, DCLXVI, with some fourth person we need to figure out. So are you claiming that DCLXVI and I as scum buddies both had reason to visit Tyrran night 1? | ||
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On November 26 2011 11:41 wherebugsgo wrote: Show nested quote + On November 26 2011 11:38 Cyber_Cheese wrote: On November 26 2011 11:07 xsksc wrote: Wait a sec, didn't Cyber_cheese claim town tracker? Yes On November 26 2011 11:10 wherebugsgo wrote: aww man I liked the DT better. Oh well. He did. He's a liar. Let's kill him tomorrow. Zephirdd and Sabin should also die tomorrow. It wasn't a lie. On November 26 2011 11:24 xsksc wrote: On November 26 2011 11:12 GreYMisT wrote: On November 26 2011 11:07 xsksc wrote: Wait a sec, didn't Cyber_cheese claim town tracker? why so he did. He called it something different though, "town obsessive stalker" I think he has some sort of mafia tracker role. On November 26 2011 11:03 Zona wrote: Town Tracker You were obsessed with a certain actor during your childhood, and ended up stalking this person whenever you could. Kibibit's role sounds a lot like obsessive stalker, no? I'm guessing Cyber got a similar role pm, but as scum. His night 1 visit would make a LOT more sense if he is. I could totally be wrong here, I'm extremely tired. I'll give him a proper look tomorow morning. Suffice it to say that the only things our role PM's had in common were town in the name and the tracker ability. On November 26 2011 11:27 wherebugsgo wrote: yep! There's only 6 players who didn't vote Coag. One of them is hyshes, who is confirmed town. Another one is Lanaia, who voted Sabin. A third is xsksc, who claimed a doctor role, This means the scumteam is most likely to be GreYMisT, Sabin010, DCLXVI, with some fourth person we need to figure out. So are you claiming that DCLXVI and I as scum buddies both had reason to visit Tyrran night 1? Okay, you're not a liar. You're still scum though! Do you think DCLXVI and Sabin010 are scum? If you believe I am, believing DCLXVI is scum too seems stupid. Sabin is lurking pretty hardcore, do you have a link to his filter? On November 26 2011 11:44 wherebugsgo wrote: Show nested quote + On November 26 2011 11:38 bumatlarge wrote: Coagulation was the only scum there? Really? We should have lynched more! Maybe mafia only has 2 KP left. Assuming that, lylo is at least in at most 4 days, if we only lynch one per day and hit no scum. Looking at coagulation's filter, there is really hardly much there. This one post On November 19 2011 12:31 Coagulation wrote: Well looks like we lost the one voice of reason in a giant screaming derp fest. wasnt LSB taking bets that he would be killed night 1? Should probably go back and see who responded to that and how. indicates that mafia probably was trying to use LSB dying as a method of lynching people. Something tells me that this makes palmar much more likely to be town. We should probably glance at people who voted coag before day 3. Day 3, mafia probably suspected coag would get modkilled, so later votes shouldn't hold any water. + Show Spoiler + Day 1 Consistent votes: Forumite, Kenpachi, Lemonwalrus, Drazerk Temp votes: Palmar, wherebugsgo, chaoser Day 2 Cyber_Cheese, RebirthOfLeGenD, bumatlarge, Tyrran I think the most notable thing is how few people voted him, when he was pretty open about about not helping the town. Worth knowing. I'm like 90% sure all the people who ever voted Coag are town. It leaves 6 playes who didn't vote him. 1 is confirmed town, 1 is a doctor claim and the remaining 4 are all scummy as fuck. We lynch five people tomorrow. DCLXVI, Sabin010, GreYMisT, Cyber_Cheese, Lanaia. I'm 95% confident least three of them are scum. If I'm right, all four of the remaining scum should be there. 5 lynches in one day? Are you serious? | ||
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On November 26 2011 12:53 wherebugsgo wrote: I don't give a shit what DCLXVI claimed. I don't care. He's scum. I'm getting increasingly convinced that you are scum buddying up to Palmar. | ||
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At the moment there is 5 dt claims, and 4 medics. Something is clearly wrong there. The other DT's: Lemonwalrus- Breadcrumbs? You claim to have checked Palmar, and Nisani. Notably clearing Palmar of some suspicion and confirming a dead guy. I believe him nonetheless. Palmar- Breadcrumbs that aren't the results? wThere are a few things I have a problem with about your play this game, pushing to lynch Nisani and Chaoser among them, but first and foremost is this post: On November 23 2011 00:48 Palmar wrote: So, I've been having a conversation in another thread. How does everyone like my new plan "Just do whatever Palmar tells us to do"? Everyone in favor go ahead and give me a ##Fistpound And it's mostly to do with the fistpound. SUre telling people to trust you blindly is scummy, just like directing the blues night 1, but it seems in character enough. What does the fistpound have to do with your role? If we assume lemonwalrus is telling the truth, he is town, he did check you and he did find you were a dt, I can think of quite a few ways that check might be incorrect. Either way on your alignment, you have two people willing to follow your bad plan. Palmar is a viable lynch candidate. This leads me to WBG and Tyrran. If your town, they might be trying to buddy up to Palmar, and if he is scum it was a chainsaw defence when Forumite voted him from at least one of them. Tyrran doesn't really stand out, after getting in your good graces, he seems to have trailed off and just followed Palmar. Given that he has been wrong on the lynches so far, I find this suspicious. WBG seems to be everywhere, using some pretty bad logic to accuse people, and has a huge focus on the Coagulation lynch. For some reason he seems to be intentionally discounting the possibility that scum might have been voting Coagulation, busses aren't uncommon, and Coagulation seemed to set himself up for the lynch rather nicely with the mass voting. It seems like the perfect opportunity to grab another list that has the people he wants on it. We already knew Coagulation was being mod-killed, why did we need to lynch him? I would suspect WBG first out of these two. The survivng medics: DCLXVI. Why would he claim miller? I can't make much sense of it. If mafia has some sort of framer to make themselves look town, he wouldn't bother claiming miller to save himself from checks. This is either a ploy, to make people not trust the red-check on him because there is no mafia role like that, or the truth. Zephirdd claimed a role-blocking medic, which is convenient for a scum roleblocker as Forumite pointed out before he died, but also in line with any jail keeper role. Xsksc has an ability based on the number of lynches that just so happens not to work if multiple of his targets get hit. I'm inclined to believe him over the other two at any rate. On Lanaia: The ability seems like a second version of Coagulation. I'm inclined to believe they are on different teams, because theyr abilities are really good. Finally, Sabin010, I looked at his filter and he looks pretty scummy. I'll make an argument if I'm still alive, but he seems to be scum. | ||
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